Are you saying that a past-their-prime fighter, in their mid-thirties, who spent most of his career at super middleweight (for at least 25 fights), resorted to utilizing a sweat suit inside a high-temperature sauna (against the BBBofC's rules), even receiving a $500K fine for failing to make the contracted weight limit for the first bout, while being contractually required (due to a rehydration clause) to weigh less on fight-day than many marquee super welterweights, did not look visibly weight-drained in his second bout against Conor Benn?
Conor Benn vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN - 12 September 2026
Re: Conor Benn vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN - 12 September 2026
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Re: Conor Benn vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN - 12 September 2026
He chose to fight at 160 in the previous fights because he was comfortable at the weight. He hadn't fought at 168 since James DeGale, which was SIX years earlier. He was comfortable at the weight, that's why he fought Liam Smith twice at 160 and Liam Williams at 160 and Kamil Szeremeta at 160. He didn't have to fight at 160 for any of those fights, but he did, because he wanted to, because he was comfortable at the weight. But it doesn't matter what I post, you'll just keep arguing that a guy's natural weight is the one he hadn't fought at for six years. Stop being silly.Eolaithe wrote: ↑18 Jul 2026, 20:56Are you saying that a past-their-prime fighter, in their mid-thirties, who spent most of his career at super middleweight (for at least 25 fights), resorted to utilizing a sweat suit inside a high-temperature sauna (against the BBBofC's rules), even receiving a $500K fine for failing to make the contracted weight limit for the first bout, while being contractually required (due to a rehydration clause) to weigh less on fight-day than many marquee super welterweights, did not look visibly weight-drained in his second bout against Conor Benn?
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Re: Conor Benn vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN - 12 September 2026
This is what happens when someone bases all of their knowledge purely on Boxrec history rather than actual following the fights as they happenedkeithmoonhangover wrote: ↑19 Jul 2026, 06:50He chose to fight at 160 in the previous fights because he was comfortable at the weight. He hadn't fought at 168 since James DeGale, which was SIX years earlier. He was comfortable at the weight, that's why he fought Liam Smith twice at 160 and Liam Williams at 160 and Kamil Szeremeta at 160. He didn't have to fight at 160 for any of those fights, but he did, because he wanted to, because he was comfortable at the weight. But it doesn't matter what I post, you'll just keep arguing that a guy's natural weight is the one he hadn't fought at for six years. Stop being silly.Eolaithe wrote: ↑18 Jul 2026, 20:56Are you saying that a past-their-prime fighter, in their mid-thirties, who spent most of his career at super middleweight (for at least 25 fights), resorted to utilizing a sweat suit inside a high-temperature sauna (against the BBBofC's rules), even receiving a $500K fine for failing to make the contracted weight limit for the first bout, while being contractually required (due to a rehydration clause) to weigh less on fight-day than many marquee super welterweights, did not look visibly weight-drained in his second bout against Conor Benn?
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Re: Conor Benn vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN - 12 September 2026
Yeah, there's a couple of posters like that at the moment.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Jul 2026, 10:31This is what happens when someone bases all of their knowledge purely on Boxrec history rather than actual following the fights as they happenedkeithmoonhangover wrote: ↑19 Jul 2026, 06:50He chose to fight at 160 in the previous fights because he was comfortable at the weight. He hadn't fought at 168 since James DeGale, which was SIX years earlier. He was comfortable at the weight, that's why he fought Liam Smith twice at 160 and Liam Williams at 160 and Kamil Szeremeta at 160. He didn't have to fight at 160 for any of those fights, but he did, because he wanted to, because he was comfortable at the weight. But it doesn't matter what I post, you'll just keep arguing that a guy's natural weight is the one he hadn't fought at for six years. Stop being silly.Eolaithe wrote: ↑18 Jul 2026, 20:56
Are you saying that a past-their-prime fighter, in their mid-thirties, who spent most of his career at super middleweight (for at least 25 fights), resorted to utilizing a sweat suit inside a high-temperature sauna (against the BBBofC's rules), even receiving a $500K fine for failing to make the contracted weight limit for the first bout, while being contractually required (due to a rehydration clause) to weigh less on fight-day than many marquee super welterweights, did not look visibly weight-drained in his second bout against Conor Benn?![]()
Re: Conor Benn vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN - 12 September 2026
What I am saying is that you are talking a load of old rubbish by saying Eubank Jr was a Super-Middleweight early on in his career.Eolaithe wrote: ↑18 Jul 2026, 20:56Are you saying that a past-their-prime fighter, in their mid-thirties, who spent most of his career at super middleweight (for at least 25 fights), resorted to utilizing a sweat suit inside a high-temperature sauna (against the BBBofC's rules), even receiving a $500K fine for failing to make the contracted weight limit for the first bout, while being contractually required (due to a rehydration clause) to weigh less on fight-day than many marquee super welterweights, did not look visibly weight-drained in his second bout against Conor Benn?
Anyone with a brain or ounce of boxing knowledge knows he wasn't & you're making yourself look a bit of a tit by sticking to this claim..
I don't know why you are doing this but I ain't wasting anymore time on you.
All the best
Re: Conor Benn vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN - 12 September 2026
So here in Southern California there's various shades of 'Mexican'.
You have people who are born & raised here who you would think had just crossed the border recently but they actually only have one Mexican parent.
Then there are others that you would never guess were any part Mexican but both their parents are immigrants & speak broken English.
I work with the full spectrum.
As far as I know Garcias dad is of Mexican heritage & his mum is white. But lately he's been on a Mexican trip, even placing bets with FW over the England v Mexico game. I doubt he's watched more than 2 games of football but now he's tossing 6 figures on a game.
Anyway, they are known as "No Sabo" Mexicans. Garcia is a No Sabo as he doesn't speak Spanish. Spanish speakers look down on them.
Many SoCal Mexican Americans will be supporting Benn as he's fluent. Which I find hilarious.
Sorry for the lengthy post.
You have people who are born & raised here who you would think had just crossed the border recently but they actually only have one Mexican parent.
Then there are others that you would never guess were any part Mexican but both their parents are immigrants & speak broken English.
I work with the full spectrum.
As far as I know Garcias dad is of Mexican heritage & his mum is white. But lately he's been on a Mexican trip, even placing bets with FW over the England v Mexico game. I doubt he's watched more than 2 games of football but now he's tossing 6 figures on a game.
Anyway, they are known as "No Sabo" Mexicans. Garcia is a No Sabo as he doesn't speak Spanish. Spanish speakers look down on them.
Many SoCal Mexican Americans will be supporting Benn as he's fluent. Which I find hilarious.
Sorry for the lengthy post.
Re: Conor Benn vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN - 12 September 2026
Are you saying that a past-their-prime fighter, in their mid-thirties, who spent most of his career at super middleweight (for at least 25 fights), resorted to utilizing a sweat suit inside a high-temperature sauna (against the BBBofC's rules), where his father even repeatedly expressed concerns about the contractual weight stipulations, with Chris even receiving a $500K fine for failing to make the contracted weight limit for the first bout, while being contractually required (due to a rehydration clause) to weigh less on fight-day than many marquee super welterweights, did not look visibly weight-drained in his second bout against Conor Benn?Taansend wrote: ↑19 Jul 2026, 12:56What I am saying is that you are talking a load of old rubbish by saying Eubank Jr was a Super-Middleweight early on in his career.Eolaithe wrote: ↑18 Jul 2026, 20:56Are you saying that a past-their-prime fighter, in their mid-thirties, who spent most of his career at super middleweight (for at least 25 fights), resorted to utilizing a sweat suit inside a high-temperature sauna (against the BBBofC's rules), even receiving a $500K fine for failing to make the contracted weight limit for the first bout, while being contractually required (due to a rehydration clause) to weigh less on fight-day than many marquee super welterweights, did not look visibly weight-drained in his second bout against Conor Benn?
Anyone with a brain or ounce of boxing knowledge knows he wasn't & you're making yourself look a bit of a tit by sticking to this claim..
I don't know why you are doing this but I ain't wasting anymore time on you.
All the best![]()
I've listed many facts that cannot be refuted, but all you've responded with are insults.
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Re: Conor Benn vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN - 12 September 2026
Conor Benn on Ryan Garcia: 'I wanted to punch his head in for sure'
The war of words between Ryan Garcia and Conor Benn, which already feels like it’s been going on for years, is only likely to get louder now the pair have at last agreed to sort it all out in the ring on September 12.
The 27-year-old Garcia, 25-2 (20 KOs), is set to put his WBC welterweight title on the line against the 25-1 (14 KOs) Benn, 27, who is the mandatory challenger at 147lbs despite not fighting in the weight class since April 2022.
Last year, Benn went 1-1 with British rival Chris Eubank Jnr up at middleweight before beating Regis Prograis over the 10-round distance in April to mark the start of his alliance with Zuffa Boxing.
Garcia, meanwhile, beat Mario Barrios in February to win his world belt. It came three years after an unsuccessful bid for the WBA lightweight belt when he was knocked out in seven rounds by Gervonta Davis.
At the weekend Garcia and Benn came together in a fiery press conference in which both shouted and peacocked to such a degree they had to be separated.
"I wanted to punch his head in for sure," said Benn when reflecting on the machismo-fuelled exchange.
"I would have had there and then with him. I'm not worried about nothing with Ryan.
"I ain't scared about nothing. What's there to be scared about?"
"He's a spoiled brat and he carries on like a little child, throwing his toys out of the pram, having social media tantrums. You think I'm worried about him?
"I've just gone up to middleweight and had fight of the year [while losing to Eubank last April]. You think I'm worried about Ryan, a lightweight? Not at all."
The war of words between Ryan Garcia and Conor Benn, which already feels like it’s been going on for years, is only likely to get louder now the pair have at last agreed to sort it all out in the ring on September 12.
The 27-year-old Garcia, 25-2 (20 KOs), is set to put his WBC welterweight title on the line against the 25-1 (14 KOs) Benn, 27, who is the mandatory challenger at 147lbs despite not fighting in the weight class since April 2022.
Last year, Benn went 1-1 with British rival Chris Eubank Jnr up at middleweight before beating Regis Prograis over the 10-round distance in April to mark the start of his alliance with Zuffa Boxing.
Garcia, meanwhile, beat Mario Barrios in February to win his world belt. It came three years after an unsuccessful bid for the WBA lightweight belt when he was knocked out in seven rounds by Gervonta Davis.
At the weekend Garcia and Benn came together in a fiery press conference in which both shouted and peacocked to such a degree they had to be separated.
"I wanted to punch his head in for sure," said Benn when reflecting on the machismo-fuelled exchange.
"I would have had there and then with him. I'm not worried about nothing with Ryan.
"I ain't scared about nothing. What's there to be scared about?"
"He's a spoiled brat and he carries on like a little child, throwing his toys out of the pram, having social media tantrums. You think I'm worried about him?
"I've just gone up to middleweight and had fight of the year [while losing to Eubank last April]. You think I'm worried about Ryan, a lightweight? Not at all."