Trump attacks Iran

[Tony1244]

I agree with that. Those are pretty much the same principles I’ve tried to follow since I moved to Europe 30+ years ago ... and I still do.

I think we are part of the centrist brigade here. Immigration for cheap labor and so fools can feel less guilty is a huge no-no. The immigration issue also pushes people to the Right. For example when someone votes Reform or GOP in the US, they may be voting on immigration. Sadly, at least in the US, they re also f*king up the environment, not to mention probably their own birth control.

The only way we’re gonna save the planet and the natural environment is to come up with an alternative to fossil fuels and to also acknowledge that unlimited continuous growth is impossible when we’re dealing with finite resources.

There are only so much fish in the oceans to catch, only so much minerals in the ground to dig up and only so much arable land to grow crops on without having to destroy all the world’s forests to increase crop production.

Unlimited growth is impossible and unsustainable on this planet without destroying the whole ecosystem of the planet and especially with population growth fueling the need for more of everything.

It’ll be a slow death spiral if we don’t reduce the world’s population and stop stripping the planet of all its resources and this is my main point of contention with capitalism. At some point humanity has to realize that we can’t continue to strip the world of everything to maintain growth.

The environment may be the #1 reason I almost always vote blue over red these days. Agree totally with what you are saying. At the risk of sounding like I have my head in the sand there has been some progress. Rates of solar and wind usage have increased exponentially. Population rates, in some regions, have stabilized or been decreased. So it's not all bad news.

[SticknMove]

So what do you suggest?

Halving the planets population?

Which half of it?

Wouldn’t that be genocidal.

[gilgamesh]

So what do you suggest?

Halving the planets population?

Which half of it?

Wouldn’t that be genocidal.

Ahh just another 1000 years or so of never ending war and people will have it all figured out.

[SticknMove]

So what do you suggest?

Halving the planets population?

Which half of it?

Wouldn’t that be genocidal.

Ahh just another 1000 years or so of never ending war and people will have it all figured out.

You never know……little stick doesn’t.

[gilgamesh]

I'd love for everyone to get along. To me the best path toward that is trying to get along with everyone.

Which is why I got drunk and watched a Football game with my Redneck friends last week, and why I'm shaking my ass with my Drag Queen friends next week.

We all ain't as different as we wanna think we are.

[SticknMove]

I'd love for everyone to get along. To me the best path toward that is trying to get along with everyone.

Which is why I got drunk and watched a Football game with my Redneck friends last week, and why I'm shaking my ass with my Drag Queen friends next week.

We all ain't as different as we wanna think we are.

You’re so right. We need to forget reality and ride the high like it has never been done before.

[gilgamesh]

What else can ya do?

[SticknMove]

What else can ya do?

Well that’s up to you to decide. Pretending to be smart doesn’t make you smart. You have the freedom to do whatever you never planned for next week.

[Ricky]

Iran begging trump for a deal