Trump attacks Iran

[Tony1244]

I agree with that. Those are pretty much the same principles I’ve tried to follow since I moved to Europe 30+ years ago ... and I still do.

I think we are part of the centrist brigade here. Immigration for cheap labor and so fools can feel less guilty is a huge no-no. The immigration issue also pushes people to the Right. For example when someone votes Reform or GOP in the US, they may be voting on immigration. Sadly, at least in the US, they re also f*king up the environment, not to mention probably their own birth control.

The only way we’re gonna save the planet and the natural environment is to come up with an alternative to fossil fuels and to also acknowledge that unlimited continuous growth is impossible when we’re dealing with finite resources.

There are only so much fish in the oceans to catch, only so much minerals in the ground to dig up and only so much arable land to grow crops on without having to destroy all the world’s forests to increase crop production.

Unlimited growth is impossible and unsustainable on this planet without destroying the whole ecosystem of the planet and especially with population growth fueling the need for more of everything.

It’ll be a slow death spiral if we don’t reduce the world’s population and stop stripping the planet of all its resources and this is my main point of contention with capitalism. At some point humanity has to realize that we can’t continue to strip the world of everything to maintain growth.

The environment may be the #1 reason I almost always vote blue over red these days. Agree totally with what you are saying. At the risk of sounding like I have my head in the sand there has been some progress. Rates of solar and wind usage have increased exponentially. Population rates, in some regions, have stabilized or been decreased. So it's not all bad news.

[SticknMove]

So what do you suggest?

Halving the planets population?

Which half of it?

Wouldn’t that be genocidal.

[gilgamesh]

So what do you suggest?

Halving the planets population?

Which half of it?

Wouldn’t that be genocidal.

Ahh just another 1000 years or so of never ending war and people will have it all figured out.

[SticknMove]

So what do you suggest?

Halving the planets population?

Which half of it?

Wouldn’t that be genocidal.

Ahh just another 1000 years or so of never ending war and people will have it all figured out.

You never know……little stick doesn’t.

[gilgamesh]

I'd love for everyone to get along. To me the best path toward that is trying to get along with everyone.

Which is why I got drunk and watched a Football game with my Redneck friends last week, and why I'm shaking my ass with my Drag Queen friends next week.

We all ain't as different as we wanna think we are.

[SticknMove]

I'd love for everyone to get along. To me the best path toward that is trying to get along with everyone.

Which is why I got drunk and watched a Football game with my Redneck friends last week, and why I'm shaking my ass with my Drag Queen friends next week.

We all ain't as different as we wanna think we are.

You’re so right. We need to forget reality and ride the high like it has never been done before.

[gilgamesh]

What else can ya do?

[SticknMove]

What else can ya do?

Well that’s up to you to decide. Pretending to be smart doesn’t make you smart. You have the freedom to do whatever you never planned for next week.

[Ricky]

Iran begging trump for a deal

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

- Some 30 or more years ago, some 18 yr old kid designed a briefcase Nuclear Bomb.

It ain't rocket science, but working with nuclear material is exceedingly dangerous. Don't change that this is the scariest Era in the history of the world.

5000 years of recorded civilization, tens of 1000 years of incredible archeologic history, uncountable numbers of super computers crunching trillions of data bites 24/7/365, and this the best we can do?

Pitiable with no good end in sight.

Good bye and been great fun talking boxing in advance of The End...

[Nightmare Roy]

Iran begging trump for a deal

By that you mean, They offered him a deal that was much better for them than pre conflict and he refused becuase he would have been a bigger laughing stock than what he already is?

[Ricky]

Iran begging trump for a deal

By that you mean, They offered him a deal that was much better for them than pre conflict and he refused becuase he would have been a bigger laughing stock than what he already is?

No i mean Iran are desperate and want a deal, Trump should keep bombing them until the regime surrenders unconditionally.

[Baby Face Finster]

I wish this war was about liberating the Iranian people but unfortunately it's not. This war is about oil and placating Netanyahu. The U.S. population doesn't have the stomach or desire to see U.S. soldiers deployed and rightly so as Iraq and Afghanistan were a shit show. Without a land invasion regime change is not going to happen to liberate the poor people of Iran from their murderous theological regime.

[Nightmare Roy]

Iran begging trump for a deal

By that you mean, They offered him a deal that was much better for them than pre conflict and he refused becuase he would have been a bigger laughing stock than what he already is?

No i mean Iran are desperate and want a deal, Trump should keep bombing them until the regime surrenders unconditionally.

What about all the Iranians you wanted to be free? Hard to bomb when you've spunked them all too.

[Ruthless-RKO]

By that you mean, They offered him a deal that was much better for them than pre conflict and he refused becuase he would have been a bigger laughing stock than what he already is?

No i mean Iran are desperate and want a deal, Trump should keep bombing them until the regime surrenders unconditionally.

What about all the Iranians you wanted to be free? Hard to bomb when you've spunked them all too.

Was never about the Iranian people was it?

[Ricky]

No i mean Iran are desperate and want a deal, Trump should keep bombing them until the regime surrenders unconditionally.

What about all the Iranians you wanted to be free? Hard to bomb when you've spunked them all too.

Was never about the Iranian people was it?

Well it depends, many of them support the regime and sharia law, many want to be free (and were gunned down by the regime when they tried to protest).

I want the regime and their supporters to die, and for the ones who want to be free of sharia oppression to be free of sharia oppression.

[Coco]

No i mean Iran are desperate and want a deal, Trump should keep bombing them until the regime surrenders unconditionally.

What about all the Iranians you wanted to be free? Hard to bomb when you've spunked them all too.

Was never about the Iranian people was it?

This wasn't to liberate them?

[gilgamesh]

What about all the Iranians you wanted to be free? Hard to bomb when you've spunked them all too.

Was never about the Iranian people was it?

This wasn't to liberate them?

It probably was meant to liberate them from their oil and resources. It was just supposed to be easy.

[giacomino]

What about all the Iranians you wanted to be free? Hard to bomb when you've spunked them all too.

Was never about the Iranian people was it?

Well it depends, many of them support the regime and sharia law, many want to be free (and were gunned down by the regime when they tried to protest).

I want the regime and their supporters to die, and for the ones who want to be free of sharia oppression to be free of sharia oppression.

I doubt if any thinking Western person (including US Muslims) disagrees with you, but the US isn’t willing to risk ground troops to do it. Maybe the Israelis could send some of their troops from Gaza and Beirut, since they are the most vulnerable if Iran builds a nuke

[Baby Face Finster]

I believe the Iranian regime would kill almost everyone in Iran just to keep Iran an Islamic state. If that meant from a population of 93.4 million they had to kill 92.4 million so the population got down to only 1 million they would do so. (1 million being a hypothetical number representing the backers and sympathizers of the regime).

They had no qualms or hesitation in killing 40,000 protestors in 2 days. Does anyone really believe they wouldn't go to extreme measures to keep their crazy ideology in place? This isn't a religion but a politically theological cult. When you place more importance on dogma than people you are a cultist.

[Perkin Warbeck]

I believe the Iranian regime would kill almost everyone in Iran just to keep Iran an Islamic state. If that meant from a population of 93.4 million they had to kill 92.4 million so the population got down to only 1 million they would do so. (1 million being a hypothetical number representing the backers and sympathizers of the regime).

That's not true, your Islamophobic paranoia made that up.

They had no qualms or hesitation in killing 40,000 protestors in 2 days.

That was propaganda. Mossad operatives did stir up some unrest and there were some people killed, but it was far fewer than that number.

[jujigatame]

I believe the Iranian regime would kill almost everyone in Iran just to keep Iran an Islamic state. If that meant from a population of 93.4 million they had to kill 92.4 million so the population got down to only 1 million they would do so. (1 million being a hypothetical number representing the backers and sympathizers of the regime).

That's not true, your Islamophobic paranoia made that up.

They had no qualms or hesitation in killing 40,000 protestors in 2 days.

That was propaganda. Mossad operatives did stir up some unrest and there were some people killed, but it was far fewer than that number.

It was at least several thousand. Just because Israel's actions are wrong doesn't mean the Iranian regime isn't committing massive human rights violations of their own.

[Baby Face Finster]

I believe the Iranian regime would kill almost everyone in Iran just to keep Iran an Islamic state. If that meant from a population of 93.4 million they had to kill 92.4 million so the population got down to only 1 million they would do so. (1 million being a hypothetical number representing the backers and sympathizers of the regime).

That's not true, your Islamophobic paranoia made that up.

They had no qualms or hesitation in killing 40,000 protestors in 2 days.

That was propaganda. Mossad operatives did stir up some unrest and there were some people killed, but it was far fewer than that number.

It was at least several thousand. Just because Israel's actions are wrong doesn't mean the Iranian regime isn't committing massive human rights violations of their own.

Only someone with sympathy for a brutal theocratic government or an extreme hatred of Jews would try to blame the figures reported on the Israelis to try and lessen the perception of the brutality.

[hhaehre]

I believe the Iranian regime would kill almost everyone in Iran just to keep Iran an Islamic state. If that meant from a population of 93.4 million they had to kill 92.4 million so the population got down to only 1 million they would do so. (1 million being a hypothetical number representing the backers and sympathizers of the regime).

That's not true, your Islamophobic paranoia made that up.

They had no qualms or hesitation in killing 40,000 protestors in 2 days.

That was propaganda. Mossad operatives did stir up some unrest and there were some people killed, but it was far fewer than that number.

I'm no fan of the Israeli government, but let's not pretend that the Iranian regime is better, they are far far worse.

[gilgamesh]

I believe the Iranian regime would kill almost everyone in Iran just to keep Iran an Islamic state. If that meant from a population of 93.4 million they had to kill 92.4 million so the population got down to only 1 million they would do so. (1 million being a hypothetical number representing the backers and sympathizers of the regime).

That's not true, your Islamophobic paranoia made that up.

They had no qualms or hesitation in killing 40,000 protestors in 2 days.

That was propaganda. Mossad operatives did stir up some unrest and there were some people killed, but it was far fewer than that number.

Make no mistake both sides are evil. I personally don't care if there's peace in the Middle East. I just don't want America involved in the fight. It already is at this point, which was stupid on our Governments part.
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There can never be peace between people who don't want it. All we're doing by fighting this fight is ensuring continuing problems in our future.