Max Schmelings' belt up for sale

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 12 Oct 2006, 09:17

Next Wednesday 18th of Oct at Chester , you can bid on the World Championship belt won by Max Schmeling.

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.s ... 73-1-1.jpg

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 12 Oct 2006, 09:25

yes, i thought you'd be a top bidder on this one.

I'm looking at a top bid of a tenner.

think its quite a low estimate on the item actually, Bonhams think its between £3000 - £5000

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 12 Oct 2006, 10:38

I am very tempted by this.

Couple of questions on its authenticity:

- did the belts of that era even mention WBA - I know that it was for the vacant NBA title, but the reference to WBA seems bogus.
- http://www.squaredealboxing.com doesn't seem to exist....

If I was convinced it was real, given Max is a hero of mine, would happily part with a few grand for it.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 12 Oct 2006, 11:14

Have called Bonhams, their boxing expert will call me tomorrow. I'll look in some of my old boxing books tonight, but I am fairly sure the old NBA belts made no reference to the WBA.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 12 Oct 2006, 13:31

Loynesy wrote:Have called Bonhams, their boxing expert will call me tomorrow. I'll look in some of my old boxing books tonight, but I am fairly sure the old NBA belts made no reference to the WBA.

Keep us informed with news on the belt. If you do bid, good luck hope you get it

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 12 Oct 2006, 15:34

Terence wrote:NBA was the forerunner of the WBA.

They changed the name over in the early 1960's.

That's precisely why I think the belt is a forgery, as it has "WBA" and "NBA" engraved on it.

Will let you know.

Nightmare Roy · Post by **Nightmare Roy** » 13 Oct 2006, 02:38

I imagine that will go for a helluva lot more than 5 grand.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 13 Oct 2006, 06:36

Bonhams called me back.

They now realise the belt is not the original but a reproduction (as I pointed out, it is not technically a reproduction as the original one wouldn't look like that).

They will either remove it or describe properly with a much lower reserve.

Shame.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 13 Oct 2006, 07:09

Loynesy wrote:Bonhams called me back.

They now realise the belt is not the original but a reproduction (as I pointed out, it is not technically a reproduction as the original one wouldn't look like that).

They will either remove it or describe properly with a much lower reserve.

Shame.

Well at least someone won't get ripped off, nice one for sorting that out

Friedie · Post by **Friedie** » 14 Oct 2006, 11:05

Here, at the end of this small film you see Max with the original Belt !
8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UvJgy91QL0