World Cup October

Venceremos · Post by **Venceremos** » 22 Oct 2006, 01:43

48: Yan Bartelemí (CUB) 20-14 Vadim Idigeshov (RUS)
51: Georgi Balaksin (RUS) 28-18 Andry Laffita (CUB)
54: Guillermo Rigondeaux (CUB) RSCH-3 Ali Aliyev (RUS)
57: Yuriolkis Gamboa (CUB) AB-3 Albert Salimov (RUS)
60: Yordenis Ugás (CUB) 25-4 Maksim Ignatyev (RUS)
64: Inocente Fiss (CUB) 22-7 Alexandr Ivanov (RUS)
69: Andrey Balanov (RUS) 20-15 Noelvis Veitía (CUB)
75: Matbey Korobov (RUS) 29-9 Emilio Correa (CUB)
81: Artur Beterbiyev (RUS) 5-2 Yunier Dorticós (CUB)
91: Rahim Chakhkiyev (RUS) 24-15 Osmay Acosta (CUB)
+91: Odlanier Solís (CUB) RSC-3 Islam Timurziyev (RUS)

ARamos3 · Post by **ARamos3** » 23 Oct 2006, 12:08

Hector Ramos' actual weight is 141 but.... Our 132 pounder was overweight so in order to prevent him from competiting they asked the 141 (Hector) to move up to 152 and our 152 (andrade) to move up to 165. In my opinion, this was stupid! Moving up a weight class against the best boxers in the worlds isn't the smartest thing to do. Danny Garcia (who moved up to 141) ended up getting a RSCH and was suspended for 90 days after the first bout. He was unable to compete for the remainder of the tournament.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 23 Oct 2006, 12:38

Unbelievable a (former?) top nation do that at this level

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mike222 · Post by **mike222** » 24 Oct 2006, 12:37

you would have thought with the facilities available to the US they could have brought alternates,for experience at least.Where were the likes of Dargan and Nelson.

ARamos3 · Post by **ARamos3** » 24 Oct 2006, 15:43

I think you misunderstood. It wasn't the 141 that was overweight it was the 132 and the 152. USA didn't take a 165 so it didn't affect that weight class but it forced the 141 to move up to 152.

ps. and if you're talking about Nelson (Willie), he turned pro.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 25 Oct 2006, 19:25

Art - are you saying that Terrence Crawford didn't make weight? Tsk. Tsk. I'm glad they didn't take him but I'm really against moving boxers out of their weight classes.

I can see why they didn't take a 112 after Rau'shee moved up to 119; Gary Russell got hurt at the PAL (119) and really didn't have a replacement; 125 - Mark Davis is in jail and I wonder why Sadam Ali didn't go instead of Luis Del Valle; Moving Garcia to 141 wasn't smart - he would have been better off at 141, leaving Hector and Demetrius where they belong. I know Danny Jacobs was also hurt at PAL (165) but there is Edwin Rodriguez. Too bad Yathomas Riley didn't go - I can't wait to see what he does in international competition.

BTW, according to the results, Danny Garcia did not get an "H" - just an RSC. If he was H'd and got a 90 day restriction, that means he was unconscious/unresponsive for two minutes or less - not good.

Hope to see you and Hector at one of the upcoming qualifiers in 2007. Going to be a very busy year!

Onekrazyrican · Post by **Onekrazyrican** » 07 Nov 2006, 19:47

just talked to Del Valle today. He told me the officials were really trying to get that russia-cuba finale going. He told me he lost the first fight but the scores didnt tell the true story. Every US fighter was having a hard time with the scoring.

Asked him about the RSC against the cuban he told me they were trading good shots in the first, he cought the cuban with a nice left hook and then the cuban got him with a nice right for an 8 count. He tells me he was allright and heard the score was 5-4 for the cuban so he kept the same pace, nothing changed as they were going toe to toe. Then less than a minute had passed and they stopped 24-4 so he wasnt credited with a single point after the 8 count.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 07 Nov 2006, 20:10

Thanks for the update from Luis. I have also heard it was hard for our guys to score. Say hi to Luis for me the next time you talk to him - I'll probably see him at one of the qualifiers next year.

AIBA has a new president - maybe things will change......

World Cup October

Cuba 6 - Russia 5