Tyson V.S. Holyfieled (In Prime)

Slugout · Post by **Slugout** » 06 Feb 2007, 22:39

If they would have fought at the top of there game who would have won? Tyson+Rooney V.S. Holyfield+Duva

Be strait and not a hater bitch either !

Who would have won ?????????????

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 06 Feb 2007, 22:55

No disrespect but shouldnt this be in the Past Fighters forum? Tyson's retired and Holyfield is in his 4's and prolly wont ever have another chance at a title shot, and since this is a hypothetical match up...it really doesnt fit well in fighters of the present.

Just my two cents. But as far as the 'winner', I think Holyfield beats Tyson every time. He wasn't afraid of Mike and had all the tools and toughness and heart to stand up to Mike. Holyfield would have beaten Mike Tyson 100 out of 100 times.

sockdolager · Post by **sockdolager** » 06 Feb 2007, 23:21

IrishRufusMurphy wrote:No disrespect but shouldnt this be in the Past Fighters forum? Tyson's retired and Holyfield is in his 4's and prolly wont ever have another chance at a title shot, and since this is a hypothetical match up...it really doesnt fit well in fighters of the present.

Just my two cents. But as far as the 'winner', I think Holyfield beats Tyson every time. He wasn't afraid of Mike and had all the tools and toughness and heart to stand up to Mike. Holyfield would have beaten Mike Tyson 100 out of 100 times.

Although I agree Holyfield wins, it would be more like 75 out of 100.

Senor Cool Breeze · Post by **Senor Cool Breeze** » 06 Feb 2007, 23:23

TYSIN

turn2stone · Post by **turn2stone** » 06 Feb 2007, 23:24

Holy all the way. Tyson's mental fragility was always there to be exposed.

Iownthisforum · Post by **Iownthisforum** » 06 Feb 2007, 23:32

Holy most definitly. I mean Tyson was a decent champion who got HUGE popularity because he did what the public wanted; which was he often knocked guys the fornicate out.

Holyfield was too determined to lose to Tyson in his prime, Tyson never won a fight against anybody who gave him a challenge. Tyson either won easily, or he lost. (not counting Frans Botha's sorry ass).

Tyson also didn't have the size advantage needed to beat Holyfield. In Holyfields prime he only had trouble with guys who were a hell of a lot bigger then him (Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe)

Iownthisforum · Post by **Iownthisforum** » 06 Feb 2007, 23:33

lol i find it odd that all the posters think holyfield would have won..but the poll says otherwise

sockdolager · Post by **sockdolager** » 06 Feb 2007, 23:34

because the ones that think Tyson wins cant defend it or simply dont want to for 5-10 pages.

Iownthisforum · Post by **Iownthisforum** » 06 Feb 2007, 23:36

^^ good thing most of our posts are only a couple of sentences.

turn2stone · Post by **turn2stone** » 06 Feb 2007, 23:36

Iownthisforum wrote:lol i find it odd that all the posters think holyfield would have won..but the poll says otherwise

studies have shown tyson fans are not much on creating sentences. Dot clicking is the height of their communication skills.

Slugout · Post by **Slugout** » 07 Feb 2007, 00:02

turn2stone wrote:
Iownthisforum wrote:lol i find it odd that all the posters think holyfield would have won..but the poll says otherwise
studies have shown tyson fans are not much on creating sentences. Dot clicking is the height of their communication skills.

OK . Son I told you lay of the hating

U fornicate with Tyson ,,,,,,

your are fornicating with the Redneck Mafia , Now shut the hater pie hole

and cast your f**king vote

Diamond WEAPON · Post by **Diamond WEAPON** » 07 Feb 2007, 00:03

I think Tyson would've won, Holyfield would've had a great shot though.

Slugout · Post by **Slugout** » 07 Feb 2007, 00:08

Diamond WEAPON wrote:I think Tyson would've won, Holyfield would've had a great shot though.

Thank you Diomand , Tyson was our Joe Lewis our Rocky Marciano out fornicating Jack Dempsey ,,,,,,,, Holyfield was our Ezzard Charles our fornicating Ken Norton............................ If Tyson would have not came along ,
Boxing would have been dead years ago !

cultus · Post by **cultus** » 07 Feb 2007, 03:06

turn2stone wrote:
Iownthisforum wrote:lol i find it odd that all the posters think holyfield would have won..but the poll says otherwise
studies have shown tyson fans are not much on creating sentences. Dot clicking is the height of their communication skills.

Tyson would have won.

(if that's not good enaugh for ya I could throw in some insults to make you feel more at home.. wouldn't wanna alienate the cattle mentality.)

Slugout · Post by **Slugout** » 07 Feb 2007, 06:58

cultus wrote:
turn2stone wrote:
Iownthisforum wrote:lol i find it odd that all the posters think holyfield would have won..but the poll says otherwise
studies have shown tyson fans are not much on creating sentences. Dot clicking is the height of their communication skills.
Tyson would have won.

(if that's not good enaugh for ya I could throw in some insults to make you feel more at home.. wouldn't wanna alienate the cattle mentality.)

Mooooooo

cold_ko · Post by **cold_ko** » 07 Feb 2007, 09:24

Tyson after released from jail, that's lay off for 5 years from tsyon-ruddock II, never had same stamina and fighting style.

I say Tyson win 90 out of 100

turn2stone · Post by **turn2stone** » 07 Feb 2007, 10:01

cold_ko wrote:Tyson after released from jail, that's lay off for 5 years from tsyon-ruddock II, never had same stamina and fighting style.

I say Tyson win 90 out of 100

i guess math is not a strong point either, is it ?

Loki · Post by **Loki** » 07 Feb 2007, 10:15

No HW in history would have lasted against Iron Mike of the late 80's.

Tyson KO 6.

Agreed Holyfield was a legend, but prime v prime there is only one outcome.........Big KO.

Also, Cus D'Amato was Tyson best trainer.

For what it's worth: The Tyson of 88, beats Ali, Marciano, Louis, Lewis, Johnson and Dempsey.

In terms of career, Tyson is below Holyfield and on the same level as Liston.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Feb 2007, 10:16

I've always thought the prime version of Tyson would have been too quick for Holyfield. Tyson was never the same fighter after losing to Douglas and going to jail, he was still quick, but could only fight with intensity for a few rounds before going off the boil.

Tyson gets to Holyfield early and keeps him on the end of his punches to bash him up inside of 8 rounds.

Tyson's peak was brief and intense, but I honestly believe that the prime Tyson was a threat to any heavyweight in history over the first 4 rounds, Ali, Holmes, Foreman, Liston would have all overcome the early storm to win, but might have had to have got off their arse to do so.

Wolfman91 · Post by **Wolfman91** » 07 Feb 2007, 10:35

A pre jail Tyson beats a prime Holyfield by KO for me.

JC · Post by JC » 07 Feb 2007, 10:41

I still take Holyfield, people forget Holyfield was not in his prime when he and Tyson fought either.

As far as Tyson knocking him out who did Tyson ever KO who was a durable and determined as a prime Holyfield?

Wolfman91 · Post by **Wolfman91** » 07 Feb 2007, 10:47

J-C wrote:I still take Holyfield, people forget Holyfield was not in his prime when he and Tyson fought either.

As far as Tyson knocking him out who did Tyson ever KO who was a durable and determined as a prime Holyfield?

wasn't Holyfields prime when he was Cruiser weigth champ though?

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 07 Feb 2007, 10:51

Peak Holy would have reached right in and ripped Tyson's heart out just like he did when he was washed up after the Bowe fights. Once Evander gets through those early rounds and begins to turn the tide it's all over.

JC · Post by JC » 07 Feb 2007, 10:52

Wolfman91 wrote:
J-C wrote:I still take Holyfield, people forget Holyfield was not in his prime when he and Tyson fought either.

As far as Tyson knocking him out who did Tyson ever KO who was a durable and determined as a prime Holyfield?
wasn't Holyfields prime when he was Cruiser weigth champ though?

Well Cruiser was probably his best weight, but his best days at HW IMO were around the 91 and the Foreman fight when he was still an absolute monster throwing those two handed combos. Don't forget Tyson was a big favorite for the fight partly because people though Holyfield was past it.

treyg · Post by **treyg** » 07 Feb 2007, 11:35

A prime Tyson with Kevin Rooney in his corner beats Holyfield by KO.