maccarinellis next opponent...

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 Feb 2007, 11:47

I'll wait until I see something on the SN website before I start going mental about this. What does worry me though, is that strictly speaking, Gun fits the 'world ranked' criteria, as he holds a bollocks belt and is in the WBO top 15.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 08 Feb 2007, 11:49

its on the bbc site.

BigGar · Post by **BigGar** » 08 Feb 2007, 11:50

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I'll wait until I see something on the SN website before I start going mental about this. What does worry me though, is that strictly speaking, Gun fits the 'world ranked' criteria, as he holds a bollocks belt and is in the WBO top 15.

That's the worry. The bout would no doubt be justifiable in some quarters. I'm going to this bill with 2 mates who are attending their first shows. They've seen Enzo on tv and were looking forward to seeing him in the flesh. They might only see him for 11 seconds if this comes off. Mis-matches are not going to encourage these type of fans to return.

BigGar · Post by **BigGar** » 08 Feb 2007, 11:52

REAL_DEAL wrote:its on the bbc site.

Absolutely GUTTED. Words fail me to be honest. No doubt the "Machine Gun" nickname will be used often to make people think that this man is some sort of wrecking machine.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 Feb 2007, 12:09

Why are the BBC not doing their due dilligence, and actually looking at this guy's record before describing him as 'world class.' Their boxing news is absolutely pathetic.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 08 Feb 2007, 12:45

James you got there before me. Millions of casual sports fans would read the BBC depiction of this fight and believe it to be a legit fight and Gun even a "world champion" !!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6343151.stm

Absolute f#ckin disgrace of an opponent, as bad as the all time horrendous Herbie Hide/Damon Reed or Calzaghe/Podwill et al.

Disband the WBO and Sports Network.

boxbet · Post by **boxbet** » 08 Feb 2007, 12:49

Im gutted. Im going to this bill and now I Know this fight is a waste of time , expect this oppponent to fall over from this wind from enzo's breath. This bill is a money printing exercise for FW. Weve all been robbed and must learn the lesson. The only good value fights will be the lesser known fighters. well I believe there is 15 fights so hope to see something good.

boxbet · Post by **boxbet** » 08 Feb 2007, 12:57

Gun had an 11 year lay off before 2004. odds for Enzo to win 1/1000000

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 Feb 2007, 13:05

I feel the bile rising the more I think about this.

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 08 Feb 2007, 17:31

What utte rubbish. I was thinking about going definately giving it a miss now. he wont fight Bell v Mcormick winner. He end up defending the wbo a for years

salaco · Post by **salaco** » 09 Feb 2007, 10:10

I posted the below list of likely opponents in early january...thing is, do not underestimate how crummy maccarinelli really is, he's a weak titleholder even by today's standards where there are multiple world and regional titles...

2. Pietro Aurino
7. Nicolay Popov (Asia-Pacific)
9. Mauro Ordiales
11. Giacobbe Fragomeni
12. Emmanuel Nwodo
14. Laudelino Barros
15. Bobby Gunn

the rest would handle that scrub...

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 09 Feb 2007, 11:10

Here's my take on it and a bit more info, for what it's worth:

http://www.britishboxing.net/news_2073- ... -Gunn.html

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 09 Feb 2007, 11:35

Hard not to poke fun at this one, it's the promotional equivalent of a fat kid with ginger hair and glasses, just waiting to get slapped about in the playground.

Still, I doubt SN give a shite, according to them they are going to get a vast crowd for this fight in any case, and don't really need anything much to sell it at this point. It's incredible to me that just because Manfredo was on the contender, people are prepared to turn out in their thousands, I don't recall Calzaghe getting a pupported crowd like that for any of his other fights.

I wish there was a resource which listed the gates of fights, but I guess that maybe that information is held back by promoters.

states · Post by **states** » 09 Feb 2007, 11:38

I suspect there's just a little bit of bollocks in the claim that there will be 35,000 at this show.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 09 Feb 2007, 11:48

Just read Ian's report and watched the fight again (I saw it a few months back when it was doing the rounds) and I have to say this is bordering on the dangerous. No way should a club fighter who I imagine is going to look tiny standing next to enzo when he looked overweight at 181, who has already taken a beating like that and never been in anything like world class, be matched up with a serious puncher like Enzo.

Enzo seems like quite an ambitous likeable guy, I wonder if he's as unhappy as Alex Arthur is

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 09 Feb 2007, 12:00

Not suprised in the slightest.Same old,same old....

Apparently Macca reckons Bell can't call himself the main man in the division until he beats him!!!!!!!!

What a shit,shit,SHIT fight.

E · Post by E » 09 Feb 2007, 12:02

Does anyone know if Bobby "The MAchine" Gunn is related to former alphabet titleholder Tommy "The Machine Gunn"???

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 09 Feb 2007, 12:12

More likely to be related to the 'Spud gun' by the sounds of him.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 09 Feb 2007, 12:24

Jesus christ, just watched that on youtube, where did that referee train?

That dude was virtually doing a ground and pound, before the referee does a reverse suplex and slams him to the canvas, surely the ref isn't meant to be getting physical with the fighters, he'd have been within his rights to DQ him instantly for that in my book.

Then there's those knockdowns, christ, he should have been stopped after the 2nd one, his legs were shot to shite, couldn't even stand in one spot, and as for the third, I'm incredulous that any referee after seeing how badly he went down, would even contemplate him carrying on.

Gun is in serious trouble if a fat clubfighter with zero skills was able to take him down like that.

boxbet · Post by **boxbet** » 09 Feb 2007, 14:40

The reason people will turn out at the cardiff bill is because it could be Calzaghe's last fight on british soil, he may not have too many fights left. Also the aclaim he received for beating Lacy on ITV has made him a bigger draw.

boxbet · Post by **boxbet** » 09 Feb 2007, 15:01

The ref wont give us any action in this country on this bill because he will stop the fight the first punch Enzo throughs.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 10 Feb 2007, 06:35

ok, I think we should all apologise to the WBO, because their ranking of Gunn is astute compared to the WBC (who have "without doubt the most prestigious rankings" blah blah,) anyway the WBC have him ranked #14. ffs. Have we missed something? Gunn makes Calloway look like the real deal. WTF is going on?

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 10 Feb 2007, 08:16

I think we should BLAST warren for this opponent, enzo should have too much AMMUNITION for gunn, hopefully the boxing MAGAZINES will voice their concern. I hope gunn SILENCES the critics by KO'ing enzo, he BERETTA put up some sort of challenge but i dont think he'll take a SHOT well and will be LOADING up on the night...

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 10 Feb 2007, 08:23

You can do better than that Riddick - UZI your imagination for god's sake.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 10 Feb 2007, 08:35

Maccarinelli vs Gunn is no more than a public slaughter.

The BBBofC should be doing something about this sort of match-up.

This is going to be a perfect fight......... for filling up those three minutes you have spare at the end of one of your fight tapes.