JOHN RAWLING, talking b#llocks yet again

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 19 Feb 2007, 06:42

Im sure there are any number of quotes we could bring up, but after Sprott iced Fraudley on saturday night Rawling shared his wise words with us all like the old sage he is "Oh i heard a lot of people in the build up to this fight saying 'Michael Sprott? Not much of a fight is it, he hasn't got a chance'.. well, (queue know-it-all patronising tone) THIS IS HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING FOLKS."

Maybe Rawling should re-read his own preview, Saturday morning in The Guardian:

"there seems little other conclusion to be reached than that Sprott might meet a similar fate to Williams"

and

"Harrison will have too much firepower and force a victory within nine rounds to set up a May showdown with the Commonwealth champion Matt Skelton to establish who can rightly claim to be Britain's best"

John Rawling: a Boxing Expert (after a fight has concluded)

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 19 Feb 2007, 07:30

I like Rawlings, preferred him on the radio though. Easy to shoot people down who are up there writing articles and commentating, we could pick holes or apparent contradictions in anyones work...

Rawling is a fan and I think quite sensible in what he says... No offence intended to you Overhand Right but I think you interpreting his tone as know-it-all and patronising might say more about you than him!

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 19 Feb 2007, 07:34

Im pointing out that he told us we were all wrong and 'this is heavyweight boxing folks' when in actual fact anybody who had read his own preview the morning of the fight would have come away thinking it was a mismatch and Audley would roll right over him.

Dont know how this says more about 'me' than it does Rawling but whatever mate.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 19 Feb 2007, 07:38

I just took it as him making a point that the Heavyweight division is boxings most volatile and that fights can turn/end in a split second, not that he was in some way trying to claim the high ground?

I wasn't happy with my choice of words when I said it says more about you! What I was getting at is that you seem to have some kind of problem with Rawling that's all, I just took his comment as I feel he meant it, I think you're reading too much into it. As I said no offence intended.

Mr Boogaloo · Post by **Mr Boogaloo** » 19 Feb 2007, 07:39

Sucks for him that he's so concerned about MMA's increased popularity that he has to have a swipe at the sport.

Cheers for the publicity, John, you bozo :)

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 19 Feb 2007, 08:00

rawling should have fessed up that it was himself primarily that gave sprott no chance, instead of passing it over to the mystical "..alot of people"

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 19 Feb 2007, 08:01

boxing makes us go through many and varied emotional states through the years but this fight ended with me laughing my bolux off

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 19 Feb 2007, 08:12

harrygreb wrote:rawling should have fessed up that it was himself primarily that gave sprott no chance, instead of passing it over to the mystical "..alot of people"

That was my point. He avoided the fact that the people he was talking about included himself and his own write up.

Goz, you're right i dont really like Herr Rawling, talks too much bollocks to me, along with his sidekick, the deranged Duke McKenzie. No offense to you either bud

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 19 Feb 2007, 08:48

Give it a rest everyone. If it's so important for sniffing through people's shit caked underpants, why is no one getting on Rawling for not saying that the EU was a fake European belt - while he had the chance on live TV?

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 19 Feb 2007, 09:27

John Rawling is a very good journalist. So he called the fight wrong. He gave his opinion and it was wrong. Big deal.

I've done it a thousand times and will probably continue to do so.

The Blade · Post by **The Blade** » 19 Feb 2007, 09:37

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:John Rawling is a very good journalist. So he called the fight wrong. He gave his opinion and it was wrong. Big deal.

I've done it a thousand times and will probably continue to do so.

Correct ... if he could get it right all the time, he could sit in the bookies and wouldn't need to work.

Hot Tub Man#1 · Post by **Hot Tub Man#1** » 19 Feb 2007, 09:38

dead right mr mcneilly.

i honestly can't see what people have against him. so what he called the fight wrong?

i also like the fact he had a pop at MMA but then i am personally biased because i can't bear MMA.

fair point about the EU title though, and it occurred to me at the time that it was being passed off as the proper one ...

as for mcguigan though - he is just a total hype machine and some of his wildly excitable claims are just embarrassing.

JC · Post by JC » 19 Feb 2007, 09:45

I don't have a problem with Rawling either (except he says "big right 'and" a bit too much).

However I think the point Overhand was making was not that he called the fight wrong, but that he called it wrong and then tried to sond all "sage" by saying people shouldn't have written Sprott off when he was just as guilty of doing so himself.

Seems a nice fella though.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 19 Feb 2007, 10:20

Hot Tub Man#1 wrote:dead right mr mcneilly.

i honestly can't see what people have against him. so what he called the fight wrong?

i also like the fact he had a pop at MMA but then i am personally biased because i can't bear MMA.

fair point about the EU title though, and it occurred to me at the time that it was being passed off as the proper one ...

as for mcguigan though - he is just a total hype machine and some of his wildly excitable claims are just embarrassing.

one thing I've never liked about Barry is that he's a bag of nervous energy on TV.

E · Post by E » 19 Feb 2007, 10:24

viciousmaussa wrote:
Hot Tub Man#1 wrote:dead right mr mcneilly.

i honestly can't see what people have against him. so what he called the fight wrong?

i also like the fact he had a pop at MMA but then i am personally biased because i can't bear MMA.

fair point about the EU title though, and it occurred to me at the time that it was being passed off as the proper one ...

as for mcguigan though - he is just a total hype machine and some of his wildly excitable claims are just embarrassing.
one thing I've never liked about Barry is that he's a bag of nervous energy on TV.

As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 19 Feb 2007, 11:22

E wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:
Hot Tub Man#1 wrote:dead right mr mcneilly.

i honestly can't see what people have against him. so what he called the fight wrong?

i also like the fact he had a pop at MMA but then i am personally biased because i can't bear MMA.

fair point about the EU title though, and it occurred to me at the time that it was being passed off as the proper one ...

as for mcguigan though - he is just a total hype machine and some of his wildly excitable claims are just embarrassing.
one thing I've never liked about Barry is that he's a bag of nervous energy on TV.
As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....

I think youre out of order saying that, ...just because you spend most of your life off your head doesnt mean everyone else is the same mate!... Barrys done more in his life than you could ever dream of in your wildest trips!...

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 19 Feb 2007, 11:26

overhand_right wrote:
harrygreb wrote:rawling should have fessed up that it was himself primarily that gave sprott no chance, instead of passing it over to the mystical "..alot of people"
That was my point. He avoided the fact that the people he was talking about included himself and his own write up.

Goz, you're right i dont really like Herr Rawling, talks too much bollocks to me, along with his sidekick, the deranged Duke McKenzie. No offense to you either bud

I agree with you to a certain extent, Rawling can come over as a mite condecending like we've never seen a boxing match before (did we need telling that this was heavyweight boxing!!) but I thought a lot of it was ITV trying to cover their embarrasment after hailing Audely following the Williams fight and then seeing him on his arse in this fight.
Also to be fair to Duke and Rawling I think theyve improved somewhat since previous shows, less mistakes during commentary etc... I didnt find myself needing to turn the sound down this time...

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 19 Feb 2007, 11:45

silkov wrote:
E wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:one thing I've never liked about Barry is that he's a bag of nervous energy on TV.
As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....
I think youre out of order saying that, ...just because you spend most of your life off your head doesnt mean everyone else is the same mate!... Barrys done more in his life than you could ever dream of in your wildest trips!...

He's always jerking around and it gets on my nerves.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 19 Feb 2007, 11:51

viciousmaussa wrote:
silkov wrote:
E wrote: As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....
I think youre out of order saying that, ...just because you spend most of your life off your head doesnt mean everyone else is the same mate!... Barrys done more in his life than you could ever dream of in your wildest trips!...
oh, F UCK OFF. He's always jerking around and it gets on my nerves.

Feck off yourself you tosspot!... 8)

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 19 Feb 2007, 13:10

silkov for gods sake cant you take a joke???

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 19 Feb 2007, 15:07

harrygreb wrote:silkov for gods sake cant you take a joke???

Nope!... 8)

E · Post by E » 19 Feb 2007, 15:22

silkov wrote:
E wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:one thing I've never liked about Barry is that he's a bag of nervous energy on TV.
As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....
I think youre out of order saying that, ...just because you spend most of your life off your head doesnt mean everyone else is the same mate!... Barrys done more in his life than you could ever dream of in your wildest trips!...

Ummm jaysus.... can't you see an obvious piss take even when it's right in front of your face yelling loudly "I am just taking the piss!!!!"?????

I mean do you seriously think I was suggesting Barry was a crackhead???

Barry was a strong and exciting world champion who got out of the game with all his faculties intact.

Good on him......

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 19 Feb 2007, 15:31

lets stop picking holes in every commentator or analyst....and lets enjoy what we see on the screen and stop worrying about what comes out of the speakers !!

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 19 Feb 2007, 15:43

E wrote:
silkov wrote:
E wrote: As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....
I think youre out of order saying that, ...just because you spend most of your life off your head doesnt mean everyone else is the same mate!... Barrys done more in his life than you could ever dream of in your wildest trips!...
Ummm jaysus.... can't you see an obvious piss take even when it's right in front of your face yelling loudly "I am just taking the piss!!!!"?????

I mean do you seriously think I was suggesting Barry was a crackhead???

Barry was a strong and exciting world champion who got out of the game with all his faculties intact.

Good on him......

Please let me know in future when you're jokin!... 8)

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 20 Feb 2007, 05:25

I think we could all help and let Silkov know when somebody is joking!

Back to Rawling, I still think a few are a tad over-critical of him but his failing to mention that the 'European' title being contested by Harrison & Sprott was a crock of shit is a good point, he should have said something.