Bonecrusher Smith-update

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 09 Oct 2006, 10:05

Found this on Smith's whereabouts

http://www.championforkids.org/

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 02 Mar 2007, 10:56

He's quite the entrepeneur

http://www.ytb.com/jrsmithtravel

icejack · Post by **icejack** » 08 Mar 2007, 18:50

Alwya loved Bonecrusher! was there the night in came from behind to beat Bruno,when that big punch landed ,from my position right at the back you could see the sweat fly of Franks head,it was sickening to see Frank just standing there as Smith tee'ed off.Good fighter!

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 09 Mar 2007, 11:34

icejack wrote:Alwya loved Bonecrusher! was there the night in came from behind to beat Bruno,when that big punch landed ,from my position right at the back you could see the sweat fly of Franks head,it was sickening to see Frank just standing there as Smith tee'ed off.Good fighter!

Unlike Mr Lewis, Bruno actually had a very good chin. All those shots he took from Bonecrusher, about 7 or 8 hooks landing flushed finally floored Bruno.....and Frank STILL got up! Bruno also took the best Witherspoon had to offer before finally scummbling, but Witherspoon didnt get off so lightly either and took some clean shots from Big Frank.

Bruno, Cooper and Bugner are the three best British HW's from the 60's to the present.

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 09 Mar 2007, 11:43

RazorKO wrote:Unlike Mr Lewis, Bruno actually had a very good chin. All those shots he took from Bonecrusher, about 7 or 8 hooks landing flushed finally floored Bruno.....and Frank STILL got up! Bruno also took the best Witherspoon had to offer before finally scummbling, but Witherspoon didnt get off so lightly either and took some clean shots from Big Frank.

Bruno, Cooper and Bugner are the three best British HW's from the 60's to the present.

Was Carl Lewis a bit chinny?

And what exactly is scummbling?

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 09 Mar 2007, 11:55

RazorKO wrote: Bruno, Cooper and Bugner are the three best British HW's from the 60's to the present.

No one takes you remotely seriously when you so obviously have an axe to grind.

Bruno, Cooper, Bugner, combined world title fight record: 1-6

Lewis: 16-2

Hmmm, now i'm no maths genius but...

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 09 Mar 2007, 16:01

The Great John L wrote:
RazorKO wrote:Unlike Mr Lewis, Bruno actually had a very good chin. All those shots he took from Bonecrusher, about 7 or 8 hooks landing flushed finally floored Bruno.....and Frank STILL got up! Bruno also took the best Witherspoon had to offer before finally scummbling, but Witherspoon didnt get off so lightly either and took some clean shots from Big Frank.

Bruno, Cooper and Bugner are the three best British HW's from the 60's to the present.
Was Carl Lewis a bit chinny?

And what exactly is scummbling?

Scummbling = Staggering.

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 09 Mar 2007, 16:02

overhand_right wrote:
RazorKO wrote: Bruno, Cooper and Bugner are the three best British HW's from the 60's to the present.
No one takes you remotely seriously when you so obviously have an axe to grind.

Bruno, Cooper, Bugner, combined world title fight record: 1-6

Lewis: 16-2

Hmmm, now i'm no maths genius but...

Lewis is as British as I am Nepalese. The man fought for Canada in the 88 Olympics.

JC · Post by JC » 09 Mar 2007, 16:18

RazorKO wrote:Lewis is as British as I am Nepalese. The man fought for Canada in the 88 Olympics.

Really? You were born in Nepal and lived there till the age of twelve? Did you base most of your pro career from there too?

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 14 Mar 2007, 08:43

Forget it JC, you're better off talking to a brick wall. guys an absolute troll. He is known for writing b#llocks. LL was born in Britain, end of.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 14 Mar 2007, 12:53

Leave razor alone, this website would be a lot duller if it wasn't for his bullies should get the death penalty, Gerrie Coetzee is a top 20 heavy of all time, George Bush can do no wrong and all European football fans are holligans and the sport should be banned theorys to go along with the many Lennox Lewis ones

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 14 Mar 2007, 17:11

The Great John L wrote:
RazorKO wrote:Unlike Mr Lewis, Bruno actually had a very good chin. All those shots he took from Bonecrusher, about 7 or 8 hooks landing flushed finally floored Bruno.....and Frank STILL got up! Bruno also took the best Witherspoon had to offer before finally scummbling, but Witherspoon didnt get off so lightly either and took some clean shots from Big Frank.

Bruno, Cooper and Bugner are the three best British HW's from the 60's to the present.
Was Carl Lewis a bit chinny?

And what exactly is scummbling?

NO but LENNOX Lewis was very chinny.

Bruno on the other hand had a good chin, but poor stamina and survival instincts.

He couldnt tie his opponent up

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 19 Mar 2007, 16:14

overhand_right wrote:
RazorKO wrote: Bruno, Cooper and Bugner are the three best British HW's from the 60's to the present.
No one takes you remotely seriously when you so obviously have an axe to grind.

Bruno, Cooper, Bugner, combined world title fight record: 1-6

Lewis: 16-2

Hmmm, now i'm no maths genius but...

You have to be more than a "math" person to deal with boxing, overhand.

Your "mathematical" calculation

left out ONE SMALL FACTOR ------

the quality of the opponent.

Good luck with your attempts to apply "math" to boxing, though.

king_kali_rocks · Post by **king_kali_rocks** » 22 Mar 2007, 06:48

Yere and of course "hungarian - Pommy - Aussie" Joe Bugner is as British as they come.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 22 Mar 2007, 07:30

Lewis could be KO'd and was... But glass-jawed??? I'm not so sure. Lewis got untidy when hurt and he didn't seem to have great recuperative powers but he didn't get dropped that much in his career. He also took some mighty right hands off Klitschko (who had height, weight, reach and a punch).

As far as the champions go Lewis had one of the weaker chins but some talk as if the breeze of a butterfly's wings would knock him over.

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 22 Mar 2007, 08:38

Ezzard wrote:Lewis could be KO'd and was... But glass-jawed??? I'm not so sure. Lewis got untidy when hurt and he didn't seem to have great recuperative powers but he didn't get dropped that much in his career. He also took some mighty right hands off Klitschko (who had height, weight, reach and a punch).

As far as the champions go Lewis had one of the weaker chins but some talk as if the breeze of a butterfly's wings would knock him over.

Agreed. His chin wasn't the best, but it wasn't bad either. Look at who he fought, and he was only dropped twice.

Controversial · Post by **Controversial** » 22 Mar 2007, 09:26

KO Artist wrote:
The Great John L wrote:
RazorKO wrote:Unlike Mr Lewis, Bruno actually had a very good chin. All those shots he took from Bonecrusher, about 7 or 8 hooks landing flushed finally floored Bruno.....and Frank STILL got up! Bruno also took the best Witherspoon had to offer before finally scummbling, but Witherspoon didnt get off so lightly either and took some clean shots from Big Frank.

Bruno, Cooper and Bugner are the three best British HW's from the 60's to the present.
Was Carl Lewis a bit chinny?

And what exactly is scummbling?
NO but LENNOX Lewis was very chinny.

Bruno on the other hand had a good chin, but poor stamina and survival instincts.

He couldnt tie his opponent up

I agree Brunos chin wasn't as bad as many think. But Lennox Lewis, come on he was hardly chinny !!

Look at the big punchers Lewis fought, Tua, Tyson, Bruno, Mason, Ruddock, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Klitscko, Weaver and others. If he was a chinny as you say he was he would have been floored or stopped many more times than he was.

Lewis was stopped by two big punching fighters, 16.7 stone McCall with 22kos in 29 wins and 17 stone Rahman with 29kos in 34 wins. Any fighter taking clean shots from big punching fighters like that can be ko'ed. Lewis did all he could do, he stopped them both in the rematches.

Rememebr Joe Louis was clean KO'ed, dropped, staggered and hurt in several fights so is he 'chinny' as well. Was Mike Tyson 'chinny' every loss he had was by stoppage?

Lewis was a great fighter, chinny isn't a word I associate with him.

cultus · Post by **cultus** » 24 Mar 2007, 11:09

Controversial wrote:
KO Artist wrote:
The Great John L wrote: Was Carl Lewis a bit chinny?

And what exactly is scummbling?
NO but LENNOX Lewis was very chinny.

Bruno on the other hand had a good chin, but poor stamina and survival instincts.

He couldnt tie his opponent up
I agree Brunos chin wasn't as bad as many think. But Lennox Lewis, come on he was hardly chinny !!

Look at the big punchers Lewis fought, Tua, Tyson, Bruno, Mason, Ruddock, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Klitscko, Weaver and others. If he was a chinny as you say he was he would have been floored or stopped many more times than he was.

Lewis was stopped by two big punching fighters, 16.7 stone McCall with 22kos in 29 wins and 17 stone Rahman with 29kos in 34 wins. Any fighter taking clean shots from big punching fighters like that can be ko'ed. Lewis did all he could do, he stopped them both in the rematches.

Rememebr Joe Louis was clean KO'ed, dropped, staggered and hurt in several fights so is he 'chinny' as well. Was Mike Tyson 'chinny' every loss he had was by stoppage?

Lewis was a great fighter, chinny isn't a word I associate with him.

exactly.. Lewis had a good chin. After the McCall KO he even got up and COULD have continued. Bruno's chin was lot worse.

Controversial · Post by **Controversial** » 24 Mar 2007, 18:05

cultus wrote:
Controversial wrote:
KO Artist wrote: NO but LENNOX Lewis was very chinny.

Bruno on the other hand had a good chin, but poor stamina and survival instincts.

He couldnt tie his opponent up
I agree Brunos chin wasn't as bad as many think. But Lennox Lewis, come on he was hardly chinny !!

Look at the big punchers Lewis fought, Tua, Tyson, Bruno, Mason, Ruddock, Morrison, Mercer, Briggs, Klitscko, Weaver and others. If he was a chinny as you say he was he would have been floored or stopped many more times than he was.

Lewis was stopped by two big punching fighters, 16.7 stone McCall with 22kos in 29 wins and 17 stone Rahman with 29kos in 34 wins. Any fighter taking clean shots from big punching fighters like that can be ko'ed. Lewis did all he could do, he stopped them both in the rematches.

Rememebr Joe Louis was clean KO'ed, dropped, staggered and hurt in several fights so is he 'chinny' as well. Was Mike Tyson 'chinny' every loss he had was by stoppage?

Lewis was a great fighter, chinny isn't a word I associate with him.
exactly.. Lewis had a good chin. After the McCall KO he even got up and COULD have continued. Bruno's chin was lot worse.

Personally I don't think Bruno had a bad chin either. He was clearly beating Bonecrusher Smith until the last round. Even then Smith caught him with several clean big punches to the chin before Bruno went down.

I remember bruno taking a huge right hand off Jumbo Cummings and doing a silly dance but he survived and i think he stopped Cummings in the next round. Cummings was a big puncher.

Then of course theres Brunos fights with Tyson. After getting dropped in the first few seconds he got up and took huge Tyson punches until the 5th. Tyson battered him against the ropes but couldn't put him down.

Brunos problem was he didn't know how to tie fighters up when he was hurt, he would just stand there and take the blows.

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