Warren, "Joe's mandatory is due"

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 09 Apr 2007, 09:16

'Joe's mandatory is due, so maybe we'll look at that,' said the promoter.

Get it on!

So the timing and money aren't right for Kessler. And Jermain may not want to cash his career in just yet...

Denis Inkin is a REAL contender for the crown having stopped Mario Veit and outclassed Emannuel Duma, a southpaw runner whom he efficiently broke down.

Inkin was cut by a head clash last time, but this was a good 7 or 8 weeks ago and he'll certainly be ok by July!

There are league between Inkin and the atrocious Manfredo. The Germans have few qualms about sending their fighters abroad to chance the world title...(Beyer-Woodhall, Veit-Calzaghe 1 as examples).

Inkin is a very precise, well balanced fighter and stands as a high quality mandatory. Certainly a more respectable WBO #1 than Veit, Mkrtchian,

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 09 Apr 2007, 09:20

Put's Froch right out of the picture for another 12 months too ;)

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 09 Apr 2007, 09:26

Ring have Inkin as Joe's #9 contender and Manfedo as #10! There's a huge gulf in class between those two. Power of television - INDEED! How the eff is he below the atrocious Allan Yellow (Ring #8 ) ?

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 09 Apr 2007, 10:29

Inkin would be a respectable tune-up for a big fight. THE big fight.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 09 Apr 2007, 10:32

I like Inkin. Good fighter. 29 years old, needs to get a move on.

Rocky Balboa · Post by **Rocky Balboa** » 09 Apr 2007, 10:42

Twinkle Toes wrote:Put's Froch right out of the picture for another 12 months too ;)

I am a great fan of Joe Calzaghe. I think he's a terrific fighter, but it's high time he fought a real contender, a fighter who's a worthy challenger. No more boxing guys who have more celebruty appeal than boxing skills. Manfredo is nowhere near Joe's level as a boxer.

I get the feeling Calzaghe will not take on Froch. Carl is young, hungry and is improving. Plus he hits very hard. Froch would be a dangerous opponent for Calzaghe & Joe knows this.

It would be a shame if the fight does not happen.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 09 Apr 2007, 10:51

pundit wrote:Inkin would be a respectable tune-up for a big fight. THE big fight.

Calzaghe really needs a few tune up fights before taking on a big name or fight in America, best not to rush him, too much too soon can ruin a fighter.

If a Kessler can't be made this year (I'm not holding my breath on that one) then a Calzaghe - Froch fight would do for me.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 09 Apr 2007, 11:15

Strangely, Calzaghe's top 3 contenders are very strong, Inkin, Bute, Froch.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 09 Apr 2007, 11:25

Final Fight wrote:Strangely, Calzaghe's top 3 contenders are very strong, Inkin, Bute, Froch.

That's going to take some serious wriggling out of, isnt it?

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 09 Apr 2007, 12:21

Is Inkin the mandatory challanger?

JC · Post by JC » 09 Apr 2007, 12:48

These are the rankings on the WBO's site, so I assume Inkin is the mandatory?

Champion: JOE CALZAGHE (Sup Champ)
1. Denis Inkin RUS
2. Lucian Bute (Int-Cont) ROM
3. Carl Froch GB
4. Jeff Lacy USA
5. Peter Manfredo, Jr. USA
6. Cristian Sanavia ITA
7. Juergen Braehmer GER
8. Jean Pascal (NABO) CAN
9. Victor Oganov RUS
10. Robert Stieglitz GER
11. Allan Green USA
12. Vitali Tsypko UKR
13 13. Jean Paul Mendy FRA
14 14. Hector Velazco ARG
15 15. David Gogiya GEO

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 09 Apr 2007, 12:53

He is WBO number 1 but not sure how it works with them.. may have to fight a eliminator with Bute the NO. 2 not sure though

http://www.wbo-int.com/

JC · Post by JC » 09 Apr 2007, 13:01

josh fg wrote:He is WBO number 1 but not sure how it works with them.. may have to fight a eliminator with Bute the NO. 2 not sure though

http://www.wbo-int.com/

Yeah the WBO have seemed to make it up as they go along in the past. Bute is fighting the IBF eliminator so a fight with Inkin won't happen. Maybe Inkin Froch as an eliminator would be good.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 09 Apr 2007, 13:19

Not sure team Calzaghe will be that happy with that match up and I think the problem with the WBO is that the promoters call the tune as the fighters make the title not the other way round. The WBC has more legitimacy in this.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 09 Apr 2007, 13:44

Yawn...there will be no big fight soon or EVER. Calzaghe will play his career out beating up gimme opponents while claiming to be avoided. It's a boring subject now.

PompeyScot · Post by **PompeyScot** » 09 Apr 2007, 14:31

steve689 wrote:Yawn...there will be no big fight soon or EVER. Calzaghe will play his career out beating up gimme opponents while claiming to be avoided. It's a boring subject now.

As I saw mentioned somewhere along the line this past weekend, considering all the quality fighters which have passed through the super middleweight division at some point over the last ten years, and Calzaghe hasn't managed to fight any of them, it makes you wonder where the fault is. All of those fighters can't have been wanting to avoid Joe after all.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 09 Apr 2007, 17:26

Horse wrote:Is Inkin the mandatory challanger?

Could be made mandatory. Last one was Mario Veit (mid 2005), one before that was Mkrtchian (early 2004), they have to satisfy the WBO once in a while.

I'm glad Inkin is in at #1. Just watched his win over Veit again. Really solid fighter, lovely jab, covers ground efficiently, precise hitter and gutsy. Heck, I'll go out on a limb and say that's the best fight out there after Kessler & Mundine.

Thing is Calzaghe needs an opponent. Best thing is to get the #1 guy out the way, because otherwise you know what happens, he demands a shot when Calzaghe is doing something else.

Don't fck around with Universum. They'll pull one on you ala Calzaghe-Veit 2.

If a big fight falls through, they want to keep the WBO, because next up they equal Ottke's record, in 4 fights time they surpass Joe Louis, one more after that and they surpass that record, know what I mean?...

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 09 Apr 2007, 17:30

PompeyScot wrote:
steve689 wrote:Yawn...there will be no big fight soon or EVER. Calzaghe will play his career out beating up gimme opponents while claiming to be avoided. It's a boring subject now.
As I saw mentioned somewhere along the line this past weekend, considering all the quality fighters which have passed through the super middleweight division at some point over the last ten years, and Calzaghe hasn't managed to fight any of them, it makes you wonder where the fault is. All of those fighters can't have been wanting to avoid Joe after all.

It's not like ALL of 'em he didn't fight. I'd go with, the # he missed is equal to the good ones he fought.

Not sure team Calzaghe will be that happy with that match up and I think the problem with the WBO is that the promoters call the tune as the fighters make the title not the other way round. The WBC has more legitimacy in this.

But they'll be wanting to collect sanctioning fees with the lucrative action at the Millennium. It was Warren himself who brought up Inkin, if Taylor or Kessler can't be made in July.

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 10 Apr 2007, 09:50

I dont care Inkin, Taylor. Kessler, Mundine, Hopkins or even Froch as long as it isnt another easy payday for Joe - He has to fight a "name" who is worthy and capable to retain/regain his respect and credibility.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 10 Apr 2007, 09:55

Now hes made his 20 PR defences isnt it time for a fresh challenge? Jermain Taylor is very beatable, B-Hop is very old, whatever happened to stepping up to light-heavy to become a two division champ?

Why no more talk of Clinton Woods..?

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 10 Apr 2007, 10:38

I doubt Hopkins or Winky are on the horizon. They've spoiled so many HBO investments and I ask, who wants these guys? Demand will be even less after they fight EACH OTHER.

Grilling Machine · Post by **Grilling Machine** » 10 Apr 2007, 16:36

If Kessler isn't happening, then it has to be Inkin or Froch for me. Bute and Mundine are probably the next best challengers.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 10 Apr 2007, 16:55

Grilling Machine wrote:If Kessler isn't happening, then it has to be Inkin or Froch for me. Bute and Mundine are probably the next best challengers.

I order them Kessler - Mundine - Bute - Inkin - Froch. These 5 describe the respectable 168 opponents at this jucnture.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 10 Apr 2007, 18:22

pundit wrote:
Grilling Machine wrote:If Kessler isn't happening, then it has to be Inkin or Froch for me. Bute and Mundine are probably the next best challengers.
I order them Kessler - Mundine - Bute - Inkin - Froch. These 5 describe the respectable 168 opponents at this jucnture.

Hey, you're forgetting Ring mag #7 Allan Green (he must be good, LOL), not to mention Anthony Hanshaw, a guy who made it to a ShoBox super middle final and drew with a decent Frenchman.

btw, Bika just became a Ring top 10 super middle after Manfredo was hurriedly deleted. All we need now is Evans Ashira to unseat Eastman...

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 10 Apr 2007, 18:52

How Mundine they would be a big seller in Uk and down in OZ.