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bennie · Post by **bennie** » 02 Oct 2003, 17:19

Ricky Hatton's next opponent is....Omar Weis.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 02 Oct 2003, 17:23

thanks bennie

thoses boxing news people inside information :P

well what can i say i wanted witter - hatton for christmas now we have weisas

i guess showtime told sky to stick that witter fight where the sun dont shine,

weisas is nothing special imo had a good win against Hector Camacho Jr, i will go to williams - hide if that is made

hatton by stoppage btw

chris

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 02 Oct 2003, 17:43

Yet again, a great scoop for the forum, not too sure where this place would be with out you Bennie.

Good detective work Bennie.

I for one am Happy with this match, its a decent match up and hopefully a start of bigger a better things.

Having seen Camacho Jnr a few times on Eurosport, the fact that Weiss beat him shows he has ability.

Yet again Hatton follows the hard fight, easy fight, hard fight, easy fight pattern. Lets hope we this signals the start of a new pattern (as promised by Warren, Graham and Hatton) of Hard fight, Hard fight, Hard fight.

Good Fight, well done Sports Network and thanks Bennie.

If this clashes with Hide vs Williams I'll be watching this one. Give me World class fighters over the excitiment of domestic class anyday.

Happy.

Real Deal - lets hope Witter goes the WBO route (I still can't see Judah wanting this belt for much longer). Maybe we can have an all British "World" title match up in 2004. Its the only way Witter will get a second chance in the US.

Priff · Post by **Priff** » 03 Oct 2003, 04:08

Wow man, that is an Exclusive.
Good work bennie.

Btw, Hatton is in this Month Muscle + Fitness Magazine.
His training regime is in there (the stuff we all know e.g. the 15 rounder and Grahams body pad etc).
The article also explains how BG's late brother was a bodybuilder and how BG himself regards weight training an important part of his fighter's regime.

Hatton benches 160 lbs. Pretty good, but can anyone remember how much Koysta Tzu benches...around 220 isn't it? I recall it was a phenominal amount (for his size).

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 03 Oct 2003, 04:29

Bennie - Not that I don't trust you or anything but I recall your post on ESB in late July (just before I went on holiday) stating Micky Ward was up next for Hatton.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 03 Oct 2003, 07:08

I was pretty certain it would be Weis anyway. It was the first name Ricky mentioned in his interview on saturday night and allegedly wasn't slow in explaining why Tackie and Leija looked highly doubtful for the december date.

My only hope now is that Weis pulls out and Witter is brought in at the last minute after having trained like mad just incase.

Bladder · Post by **Bladder** » 03 Oct 2003, 15:00

Priff wrote:
Hatton benches 160 lbs. Pretty good, but can anyone remember how much Koysta Tzu benches...around 220 isn't it? I recall it was a phenominal amount (for his size).

160lbs is piss poor for a professional athlete like Hatton. I weigh little more than Hatton and bench way more than that. Do you mean 160KG?

In fact, I balance 160lbs on the end of my knob as part of my warm-up.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 03 Oct 2003, 15:11

Bladder wrote:
Priff wrote:
Hatton benches 160 lbs. Pretty good, but can anyone remember how much Koysta Tzu benches...around 220 isn't it? I recall it was a phenominal amount (for his size).
160lbs is piss poor for a professional athlete like Hatton. I weigh little more than Hatton and bench way more than that. Do you mean 160KG?

In fact, I balance 160lbs on the end of my knob as part of my warm-up.

Although, I didn't really won't to know that.

Back to the fight, I've had some e-mails from American's when I told them of this fight. Now these guys know their stuff and are suprised that this match up is made. They were very complimentary of Weiss' skills and only hope that FW is not up to his alledged 'David Telesco' tricks again. They said this is Hatton's toughest assignment and 1 (who does respect Hatton's skills - I haven't come across anyone who labels a Bum yet) actually picked Weiss. The other 2 guys were sitting on the fence.

I was told that style wise Weiss is all wrong for Hatton, he can move and he's awkard. A better version of Phillips, without the big punch. They said his low boxrec ranking isn't a fair reflection of his ability.

This fight IS good and again (hoping of course Bennie is correct) I feel Sports Network should be congratulated on this match up.

For me out of the 4 names touted its the hardest match up. Tackie and Leija are still could but clearly past their prime and Witter is still a reletive unkown at world level. I'm not saying Witter won't beat Hatton, but Weiss is a proven fighter with a bit more to offer than Tackie or Leija.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 03 Oct 2003, 15:40

so it will be

december 16th

hatton vs Weis
ref mickey vann or ian john lewis

i agree this is hatton toughest test, i have only seen weis once (judah)
if stu jones mates are right than should be a close and great fight,

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 03 Oct 2003, 15:59

REAL_DEAL wrote:so it will be

december 16th

hatton vs Weis
ref mickey vann or ian john lewis

i agree this is hatton toughest test, i have only seen weis once (judah)
if stu jones mates are right than should be a close and great fight,

I have known them for some time - and their not often wrong.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 03 Oct 2003, 16:27

stujones wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:so it will be

december 16th

hatton vs Weis
ref mickey vann or ian john lewis

i agree this is hatton toughest test, i have only seen weis once (judah)
if stu jones mates are right than should be a close and great fight,
I have known them for some time - and their not often wrong.

hatton is underrated by most americans, so they will be shocked,

Blue · Post by **Blue** » 04 Oct 2003, 00:42

IF Hatton wins.
I would be mildly surprised, but not shocked.

I hole-heartily agree wit Stu and his friends, so no need to get into it.

Ricky’s press & punch wide open style plus the tendency to cut will be his eventual downfall.
His style does not make for a long career so he’s got to get on.
I credit Showtime for pressuring Frank to produce a real step up.

IMO, Weis was robbed in he Diaz, Silva, Vilches & Oliviera Fights
So his only clear defeats were to Judah & Ortiz.
Weis’ defeat to Ortiz was on a corner retirement because of a cut over his right eye.
It was opened by a straight right in the 5th rd.
He was down in the 7th which was the only knockdown of the fight.

He’s very crafty & puts out a good work rate.
He’s a step up… but still not at championship level.

This is the first 50/50 fight for Hatton;
If he wins it, his stature has raised in my eyes.
The next fight should be at the top level, no more excuses.

adje · Post by **adje** » 04 Oct 2003, 05:22

allegedly strikes again ! Omar Weis - give me a break ! Nice Christmas present for Hatton though, he'll stop this character within three rounds. It must be said though there comes a time when Ricky has to stand up and put an end to this nonsense, he's an intelligent lad and surely he can see that his career is now going in reverse.
Warren has no long term plan for the Hitman, other than the drip feed to his own bank account, and he certainly doesn't give a toss if Hatton reaches the top of the tree or not. Any promoter who is willing to put on Witter against Fred Kinuthia, a "boxer" who many of my novice juniors would have beaten easily, has absolutely no interest in the sport of boxing other than how much he can make. Yes i know they are all in that boat but lately allegedly has been stretching the boundaries of reason.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 04 Oct 2003, 06:19

REAL_DEAL wrote:
stujones wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:so it will be

december 16th

hatton vs Weis
ref mickey vann or ian john lewis

i agree this is hatton toughest test, i have only seen weis once (judah)
if stu jones mates are right than should be a close and great fight,
I have known them for some time - and their not often wrong.
hatton is underrated by most americans, so they will be shocked,

Real Deal.

Like I said in my other post these guys rate Hatton, the Phillips fight convinced them that he's up there in the world class bracket, but (according to these guys) so is Weiss. This is a tough fight for Ricky.

Dutch Windmill · Post by **Dutch Windmill** » 04 Oct 2003, 09:38

Bennie thanks for the news!

you might as well use this signature:

Better for the layout and people with dial-up access

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 08 Oct 2003, 06:16

Another marking time fight for Hatton - the Argie clearly isn't a big puncher so looks another safe one for Ricky.

Is this build up ever going to end?

I was absurdly hoping it was going to be a live one, maybe even Witter.
If he pulls out warren probably has Rios on stand by again.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 08 Oct 2003, 06:20

By the way MW congrats for your prediction league effort last week, shouldn't be too difficult for you to keep the top spot with 1 round remaining - so long as you remember to pick Chi over Brodie!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 08 Oct 2003, 06:42

Kilburn wrote:By the way MW congrats for your prediction league effort last week, shouldn't be too difficult for you to keep the top spot with 1 round remaining - so long as you remember to pick Chi over Brodie!

Thanks Mr Kilburn, I somehow managed to pick the right round 3 times in one night

But I could come unstuck at the final hurdle, I'm leaning towards Brodie

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 08 Oct 2003, 08:56

MightyWarrior wrote:
Kilburn wrote:By the way MW congrats for your prediction league effort last week, shouldn't be too difficult for you to keep the top spot with 1 round remaining - so long as you remember to pick Chi over Brodie!
Thanks Mr Kilburn, I somehow managed to pick the right round 3 times in one night

But I could come unstuck at the final hurdle, I'm leaning towards Brodie

I feel it should be pointed out that Mighty Warrior is simply acting as a front man for me.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 08 Oct 2003, 09:21

bennie wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:
Kilburn wrote:By the way MW congrats for your prediction league effort last week, shouldn't be too difficult for you to keep the top spot with 1 round remaining - so long as you remember to pick Chi over Brodie!
Thanks Mr Kilburn, I somehow managed to pick the right round 3 times in one night

But I could come unstuck at the final hurdle, I'm leaning towards Brodie
I feel it should be pointed out that Mighty Warrior is simply acting as a front man for me.

I always read your previews on Friday bennie - note who you've picked, then put money on the other guy - never fails!

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 08 Oct 2003, 09:24

MightyWarrior wrote:
bennie wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote: Thanks Mr Kilburn, I somehow managed to pick the right round 3 times in one night

But I could come unstuck at the final hurdle, I'm leaning towards Brodie
I feel it should be pointed out that Mighty Warrior is simply acting as a front man for me.
I always read your previews on Friday bennie - note who you've picked, then put money on the other guy - never fails!

That hurts!

How do you see the Brodie-In Jin Chi fight going, MW?

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 08 Oct 2003, 09:39

bennie wrote: That hurts! How do you see the Brodie-In Jin Chi fight going, MW?

It's great to see one of the "Big Three" title fights in the UK for a change, instead of the usual bargain basement WBU titles we're served up.

It's defintely a tough fight for both of them - looks about 50/50.
Chi is obviously durable so will likely be there for 12 rounds, and Brodie marks up so easily...
The Korean has a strange record: you've got Morales mixed in with boxers who've only had 2 fights.
But with a home crowd roaring him on, and hoping his eyes don't swell up,
I'd go with Brodie to take a close points win.
That's what I'm thinking today anyway. What do you reckon?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 08 Oct 2003, 09:44

MightyWarrior wrote:
bennie wrote: That hurts! How do you see the Brodie-In Jin Chi fight going, MW?
It's great to see one of the "Big Three" title fights in the UK for a change, instead of the usual bargain basement WBU titles we're served up.

It's defintely a tough fight for both of them - looks about 50/50.
Chi is obviously durable so will likely be there for 12 rounds, and Brodie marks up so easily...
The Korean has a strange record: you've got Morales mixed in with boxers who've only had 2 fights.
But with a home crowd roaring him on, and hoping his eyes don't swell up,
I'd go with Brodie to take a close points win.
That's what I'm thinking today anyway. What do you reckon?

If Brodie's chin hold out, I'll go for him to nick a tough one. Looking forward to this fight. A proper world title fight. This weekend we get Tony Oakey defending his WBU light-heavyweight title against an opponent yet to be selected. And we have to regard that as a 'world' title fight.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 08 Oct 2003, 10:01

bennie wrote: If Brodie's chin hold out, I'll go for him to nick a tough one. Looking forward to this fight. A proper world title fight. This weekend we get Tony Oakey defending his WBU light-heavyweight title against an opponent yet to be selected. And we have to regard that as a 'world' title fight.

Yep the Oakey fight is one I'll defintely be giving a miss.

And you're right the Brodie chin is a bit vunerable sometimes, not sure the Korean's a big puncher or not. Not a fight you'd pick with great confidence either way.

Jack Trickett must be having a few sleepless nights.