GRAHAM: RICKY SHOULD QUIT AT THE TOP

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 16 May 2007, 04:38

dekker wrote:pure hype to try and tempt pbf before it's 'too late'......nothing more than that imho.

I suspect this myself.

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 16 May 2007, 06:05

Anyone reckon they can guess what Ricky's earnt after tax?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 16 May 2007, 06:22

Wild guess, total career I assume you mean?

4 Million.

states · Post by **states** » 16 May 2007, 06:26

Hmm. He was listed in the Sunday Times Rich List the other week. They had him down for 6 million, if I recall.

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 16 May 2007, 06:27

Is that it?

Wow, I thought it'd be more.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 16 May 2007, 06:32

Bear in mind the 25% to his manager, (his dad in his case though), his trainer's fee, which i think is 10% as standard isn't it? Tax is 40%, I guess that's after the prior deduction, training fees for sparring partners, massage, paying Kerry Kayes (flat fee, percentage, who knows), other associated costs.

I'd say 6 million sounds about right, though he will be adding considerably to that after the Castillo fight.

Were the purses announced for the Castillo fight? I don't recall seeing anything.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 16 May 2007, 07:01

Because I think Hatton's best days are behind him - he'll never top the Tszyu night - I think we're going to see another touch and go win with Castillo. Good chance he'll pick up cuts and tire late on, assuming Castillo stays with him - and I think he will.

Mayweather?? PLEASE. He wont go near him, unless it's a retirement fight.
Floyd just beat a P4P LIGHTMIDDLE, whereas Ricky struggled with a near journeyman welterweight - and out came all the excuses about it being the "wrong weight etc"

You don't hear excuses like that from Floyd, who's fighting about a stone over his best weight.

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 16 May 2007, 08:39

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Bear in mind the 25% to his manager, (his dad in his case though), his trainer's fee, which i think is 10% as standard isn't it? Tax is 40%, I guess that's after the prior deduction, training fees for sparring partners, massage, paying Kerry Kayes (flat fee, percentage, who knows), other associated costs.

I'd say 6 million sounds about right, though he will be adding considerably to that after the Castillo fight.

Were the purses announced for the Castillo fight? I don't recall seeing anything.

He'll probably make about 4 million dollars. Can't see him making much more than that considering it's not on ppv and Castillo needs paying as well. Winky & Taylor made about that much when they fought and I think I read that HBO lost money on the fight.

Rocky Balboa · Post by **Rocky Balboa** » 16 May 2007, 09:49

ArtOfWar wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Bear in mind the 25% to his manager, (his dad in his case though), his trainer's fee, which i think is 10% as standard isn't it? Tax is 40%, I guess that's after the prior deduction, training fees for sparring partners, massage, paying Kerry Kayes (flat fee, percentage, who knows), other associated costs.

I'd say 6 million sounds about right, though he will be adding considerably to that after the Castillo fight.

Were the purses announced for the Castillo fight? I don't recall seeing anything.
He'll probably make about 4 million dollars. Can't see him making much more than that considering it's not on ppv and Castillo needs paying as well. Winky & Taylor made about that much when they fought and I think I read that HBO lost money on the fight.

I'm sure I've read Ricky is receiving $5M for Castillo. How much is Castillo getting paid?

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 16 May 2007, 09:51

I think Castillo is a bit shot but he can still give Ricky nightmares imo... if Ricky cant improve on the form of his last 3 fights then I think even a faded Castillo will beat him...

Greg Nicholas · Post by **Greg Nicholas** » 16 May 2007, 11:22

The 6 million for Hatton is total, thats excluding everything taken away.. i was shocked it was that much.. thats fornicating looads for a british fighter and double that of JC last yr..

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 16 May 2007, 11:35

Greg Nicholas wrote:The 6 million for Hatton is total

That's a lot of pies.....Ricky will end up bloody huge in his retirement days.

I can picture him in 10 years time, doing prime time boxing commentary on channel 1777.8999, squeezing his bulk into his broadcasting seat and chatting to a grey bearded Duke The Kid McKenzie.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 16 May 2007, 12:37

MightyWarrior wrote:Because I think Hatton's best days are behind him - he'll never top the Tszyu night - I think we're going to see another touch and go win with Castillo. Good chance he'll pick up cuts and tire late on, assuming Castillo stays with him - and I think he will.

Mayweather?? PLEASE. He wont go near him, unless it's a retirement fight.
Floyd just beat a P4P LIGHTMIDDLE, whereas Ricky struggled with a near journeyman welterweight - and out came all the excuses about it being the "wrong weight etc"

You don't hear excuses like that from Floyd, who's fighting about a stone over his best weight.

To be fair though, Floyd has the right style to negate and offset weight advantages. Hatton's style is ALL ABOUT strength, workrate and pressure. Pressure fighters seldom do well outside of their original weight class. look at Castillo last time out at 140, he looked shit.

Castillo will get surprisingly done over by Hatton, but Hatton cannot really move up in weight and be successful.

I would also argue against Oscar being a P4P light middle. I think there are probably several better light middles than Oscar. Karmazin, Ouma to name but two. Aside from Oscar only really has one really creditable win at 154 and that's against Castillejo.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 16 May 2007, 12:56

jamesmcdonnell wrote: To be fair though, Floyd has the right style to negate and offset weight advantages. Hatton's style is ALL ABOUT strength, workrate and pressure. Pressure fighters seldom do well outside of their original weight class. look at Castillo last time out at 140, he looked shit.

Castillo will get surprisingly done over by Hatton, but Hatton cannot really move up in weight and be successful.

I would also argue against Oscar being a P4P light middle. I think there are probably several better light middles than Oscar. Karmazin, Ouma to name but two. Aside from Oscar only really has one really creditable win at 154 and that's against Castillejo.

Take your point about styles, but for a fighter who scorns excuses, there have been a lot coming out of Hatton's camp lately: last three fights have been - legal worries...wrong weight.....chest cold...

And I guess I meant a P4P fighter, at light middle. I personaly think the best LM out there is unpronouncable Dzinziruk, who's fighting this weekend out of Germany.

I didn't watch Castillo last time out....sounds bad but I'm hoping he didn't really train for that one, and this time he will.

Still, he must be a millionare by now, sitting pretty in Mexico city.