have to laugh!

caster · Post by **caster** » 10 Jun 2007, 15:25

FW has alledgedly offered David Haye his biggest purse yet to take on Enzo Macarenelli on July 21 with no options.

Didn't David make it clear that he would take on Enzo as long as the fight was signed by a certain date?

SN obviously didn't fancy it, so David moved up to heavy....

Suprise, suprise now David's added the muscle, SN have sprung an offer to fight in 6 weeks time. SN obviously feel slightly more confident because
they know David will have to lose so much muscle tissue in such a short time....

All very predictable, really....

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 10 Jun 2007, 15:30

Wasn't Frank trying to do a deal with King and muscle in on Haye-Mormeck? He must he desperate to secure ties with Haye one way or the other.

Scooby Doo · Post by **Scooby Doo** » 10 Jun 2007, 15:52

Someone should ask Fwank what the details of the deal were, I was told it was no better than the original one which was approx 150k and something in tickets.

jimglen · Post by **jimglen** » 10 Jun 2007, 15:57

nothing new...

the 'unscrupulous' people with vested interests in 'their own need and fighters', even selling out their own people (nation)...

a 'L-HW' for nearly 3 years, 'officially' for 2 years, lose approx 9lbs in as many days, 'still' 6lbs over 2 days before the fight, dry-out for 48 hrs and then step in the ring with "NO Macarenelli," but rather the immortal Marcel Cerdan...

try that for next to 'impossible'...

caster · Post by **caster** » 10 Jun 2007, 16:08

Think I understand what you're saying Jimglen.

Abbo · Post by **Abbo** » 10 Jun 2007, 17:28

jimglen wrote:nothing new...

the 'unscrupulous' people with vested interests in 'their own need and fighters', even selling out their own people (nation)...

a 'L-HW' for nearly 3 years, 'officially' for 2 years, lose approx 9lbs in as many days, 'still' 6lbs over 2 days before the fight, dry-out for 48 hrs and then step in the ring with "NO Macarenelli," but rather the immortal Marcel Cerdan...

try that for next to 'impossible'...

Jaysus, and I thought I was drunk

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 11 Jun 2007, 06:17

Is'nt the Mormeck-Haye fight going to purse bids at around the date of Fwanks offer for a fight with Macca?

Haye has bigger fish to fry.Macca holds nothing for him now.
Haye has a fight with THE number 1 cruiserweight in the world,what can Enzo offer compared to that exactly?

Fwank full of usual bollocks

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 11 Jun 2007, 07:39

Frank had his chance to make the fight and he fcuked it up. He can't really expect Haye to bypass his shot at the Cruiser champion to take on Enzo.

I really hope Haye and Enzo get it on at some point as it will be great for British boxing and it'll be particularly appealing to the casual fan as the fight can be billed as a guarenteed KO, but I'd be amazed if it happens prio to the Mormeck bout (esp 21/07)

101boxing · Post by **101boxing** » 11 Jun 2007, 12:59

caster wrote:FW has alledgedly offered David Haye his biggest purse yet to take on Enzo Macarenelli on July 21 with no options.

Didn't David make it clear that he would take on Enzo as long as the fight was signed by a certain date?

SN obviously didn't fancy it, so David moved up to heavy....

Suprise, suprise now David's added the muscle, SN have sprung an offer to fight in 6 weeks time. SN obviously feel slightly more confident because
they know David will have to lose so much muscle tissue in such a short time....

All very predictable, really....

when the original deal for Haye to fight Enzo was put together, all that was left to do was for Haye to sign on the dotted line.

There was a time and place for this to happen, yet when Haye failed to show, it emerged that he had jetted out to the States a day earlier despite clearly stating that he would be there to sign.

People who don't know the facts should learn to keep it shut. It was Haye running scared, with Enzo having signed as soon as the contract was put in front of him.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 11 Jun 2007, 13:44

101boxing wrote:
caster wrote:FW has alledgedly offered David Haye his biggest purse yet to take on Enzo Macarenelli on July 21 with no options.

Didn't David make it clear that he would take on Enzo as long as the fight was signed by a certain date?

SN obviously didn't fancy it, so David moved up to heavy....

Suprise, suprise now David's added the muscle, SN have sprung an offer to fight in 6 weeks time. SN obviously feel slightly more confident because
they know David will have to lose so much muscle tissue in such a short time....

All very predictable, really....

when the original deal for Haye to fight Enzo was put together, all that was left to do was for Haye to sign on the dotted line.

There was a time and place for this to happen, yet when Haye failed to show, it emerged that he had jetted out to the States a day earlier despite clearly stating that he would be there to sign.

People who don't know the facts should learn to keep it shut. It was Haye running scared, with Enzo having signed as soon as the contract was put in front of him.

Haye has bigger and better things on the horizon.

Mormeck is a FAR more daunting prospect than Enzo ever will be,so your running scared nonsense does'nt hold up I'am afraid.

I love these mysterious posters that seem to echo everything Fwanky comes out with

Anyway,what with the fight against Braithwaite(who hits harder than Lee Swaby I would imagine

) all but sealed,should'nt Fwank and his merry men be worrying about that instead of bringing up Haye again in this pathetic manner?

caster · Post by **caster** » 11 Jun 2007, 14:09

101boxing wrote:
caster wrote:FW has alledgedly offered David Haye his biggest purse yet to take on Enzo Macarenelli on July 21 with no options.

Didn't David make it clear that he would take on Enzo as long as the fight was signed by a certain date?

SN obviously didn't fancy it, so David moved up to heavy....

Suprise, suprise now David's added the muscle, SN have sprung an offer to fight in 6 weeks time. SN obviously feel slightly more confident because
they know David will have to lose so much muscle tissue in such a short time....

All very predictable, really....

when the original deal for Haye to fight Enzo was put together, all that was left to do was for Haye to sign on the dotted line.

There was a time and place for this to happen, yet when Haye failed to show, it emerged that he had jetted out to the States a day earlier despite clearly stating that he would be there to sign.

People who don't know the facts should learn to keep it shut. It was Haye running scared, with Enzo having signed as soon as the contract was put in front of him.

Thanks for that Mr 101.

Did SN want options then? I'm sure Team Haye said they did.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 11 Jun 2007, 14:23

I'm always sceptical of what Warren says because his claims have proved to be bollox in the past what I object to is the smug pudendum claiming someone who fought Carl Thompson in his 11th pro fight is scaired of Enzo's padded record and the press picking it up as if it was true.

Punchy Joe · Post by **Punchy Joe** » 11 Jun 2007, 14:54

Did SN want options then? I'm sure Team Haye said they did.

They wanted options even should Haye LOSE!!!

Achybreaky · Post by **Achybreaky** » 11 Jun 2007, 16:13

caster wrote:
101boxing wrote:
caster wrote:FW has alledgedly offered David Haye his biggest purse yet to take on Enzo Macarenelli on July 21 with no options.

Didn't David make it clear that he would take on Enzo as long as the fight was signed by a certain date?

SN obviously didn't fancy it, so David moved up to heavy....

Suprise, suprise now David's added the muscle, SN have sprung an offer to fight in 6 weeks time. SN obviously feel slightly more confident because
they know David will have to lose so much muscle tissue in such a short time....

All very predictable, really....

when the original deal for Haye to fight Enzo was put together, all that was left to do was for Haye to sign on the dotted line.

There was a time and place for this to happen, yet when Haye failed to show, it emerged that he had jetted out to the States a day earlier despite clearly stating that he would be there to sign.

People who don't know the facts should learn to keep it shut. It was Haye running scared, with Enzo having signed as soon as the contract was put in front of him.
Thanks for that Mr 101.

Did SN want options then? I'm sure Team Haye said they did.

This guy is very obviously boxingchat!! same defensive stance against any warren bashing and self righteous 'If your not in the business then you cant have an opinion' attitude.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 11 Jun 2007, 16:42

101boxing wrote:
caster wrote:FW has alledgedly offered David Haye his biggest purse yet to take on Enzo Macarenelli on July 21 with no options.

Didn't David make it clear that he would take on Enzo as long as the fight was signed by a certain date?

SN obviously didn't fancy it, so David moved up to heavy....

Suprise, suprise now David's added the muscle, SN have sprung an offer to fight in 6 weeks time. SN obviously feel slightly more confident because
they know David will have to lose so much muscle tissue in such a short time....

All very predictable, really....

when the original deal for Haye to fight Enzo was put together, all that was left to do was for Haye to sign on the dotted line.

There was a time and place for this to happen, yet when Haye failed to show, it emerged that he had jetted out to the States a day earlier despite clearly stating that he would be there to sign.

People who don't know the facts should learn to keep it shut. It was Haye running scared, with Enzo having signed as soon as the contract was put in front of him.

in coloured crayon

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 11 Jun 2007, 16:47

Enzo seems like a decent fella and i have nothing against him, he is a good boxer, potentially world class but not quite yet. However he is the epitomy of a paper champion. As far as i remember he impressively KO'd fringe operator Dominguez for the WBO interim strap and basically inherited the title proper when Johnny Nelson handed it over after the knee injury. His first defence was against Mark Hobson, an honest, hardworking pro but strictly British level and shouldn't really have been let anywhere near a "world" title, plus a man Enzo had already beaten previously. He duely dispatched him in a round, we didn't see that coming granted.

Then he accommodates one of the worst "world title" challengers in the history of world title events on British soil. Even allegedly was quoted in Boxing News as saying he thought Gunn would give Enzo at least 3 rounds. At least 3 fornicating rounds??? Since when did you bring in a world title challenger to give anyone at least 3 rounds? For goodness sake, anyway Enzo KO'd him in 1 in what was a forgone conclusion the minute the contracts were signed.

Hence thus far...a paper champion. Haye has "only" won the European so far, but counting Gurov, Johanneson and Fragomeni i say he is already in a higher position and has arguably achieved more. He is after all challenging Mormeck next for the No. 1 spot in the division.