Olusegun v Khan

Top Dog · Post by **Top Dog** » 16 Jun 2007, 08:02

Man, I would love to see Olusegun go in with Khan, he would hammer the wee pretender. Before someone comes on and says "but Khan is only a lightweight" my answer to that is, now he knows what it feels like to fight someone heavier

Olusegun aint world class but he does have some moves, he would slaughter Khany The Fanny. Aint going to happen of course, cause Frank would have a heart attack at the thought.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 16 Jun 2007, 08:23

They both can go on to be world class. Which is why tey won't ever fight.

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 18 Jun 2007, 11:31

Khan isnt ready for fighting people who can stop their opponents - Never even entered my head this match up - No way would it happen Khan is being protected - Dont see him in a risky fight for quite a while yet.

boxingchat · Post by **boxingchat** » 19 Jun 2007, 09:21

Let's not get carried away with Olusegun fellas. He beat ON POINTS Gary Reid that's all for a vacant Commonwealth title. Reid was soundly beaten by Nigel Wright remember so it's hardly an earth shattering display is it?

Khan would beat him IMO and Khan would play with and humiliate Reid.

I think Sky's 'commentary' is starting to get to you lot.

Adam Smith can certainly polish a turd.

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 19 Jun 2007, 09:35

boxingchat wrote:Let's not get carried away with Olusegun fellas. He beat ON POINTS Gary Reid that's all for a vacant Commonwealth title. Reid was soundly beaten by Nigel Wright remember so it's hardly an earth shattering display is it?

Khan would beat him IMO and Khan would play with and humiliate Reid.

I think Sky's 'commentary' is starting to get to you lot.

Adam Smith can certainly polish a turd.

I agree that Adam Smith's knowledge of boxing is very limited.

So you are saying that SN would be keen to match Khan v Reid or Olusegun?

I think they would both be good fights for Amir's development.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 19 Jun 2007, 09:40

boxingchat wrote:Let's not get carried away with Olusegun fellas. He beat ON POINTS Gary Reid that's all for a vacant Commonwealth title. Reid was soundly beaten by Nigel Wright remember so it's hardly an earth shattering display is it?

Khan would beat him IMO and Khan would play with and humiliate Reid.

Dean Powell would have a function if he heard you were putting these sorts of fights forward for the SN golden goose!

The SN match making thus far does not reflect your confident swager.

Olusegun would be far too seasoned for Khan at this stage - can you not see that??

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jun 2007, 10:21

Yes, whilst Reid is hardly Oscar DeLaHoya, the fact that he managed to give Olesogun a few problems, shouldn't be overstated.

Admittedly, I think Olegsogun looked a bit ordinary at times, but I don't see Khan beating him at this stage, he'd have a hard time getting near him I think, Olesogun is far too experienced for Khan, and has beaten far better opponents than Khan has faced thus far.

Only time will tell where the two of them will end up, but right now Khan has a lot to learn, and he ain't going to learn until he steps up.

I'm reckon Khan could beat Reid, but I'm sure he would get caught a few times along the way. Khan however, would probably put in a more focussed and consistent performance than Olesogun who spend far too much time pratting around, when had he stuck his foot on the gas, and kept it there, could probably have stopped Reid.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 19 Jun 2007, 10:45

Double post

fried bread · Post by **fried bread** » 19 Jun 2007, 10:56

Olusegun has rightly won big acclaim after beating up Numbembe and Pryce. We'll be lucky if Khan takes on that level in the next year and a half.

The response to Olusegun last Sat has been mature with a good sense of perspective. i.e. he can be brilliant but he's an egotist and has turned the ppl off who lauded him.

Nothing wrong with Adam Smith. He can call a decent fight. B/C you have no objections to Duke and John Rawling glossing over some of the lesser ITV shows. Smith didn't try and tell us last Fri was sensational - at all. I recall him using the words "weird", "temperamental", and others to that effect.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 19 Jun 2007, 11:18

Seriously though FB, how much worse is Limmond to Pryce and Nuumbembe P4P. Nuumbembe SCRAPED past Anderson (a tad controvesial) and Pryce has been exposed at British title level in the past, both at Light Middle and Welter.

I think talk of Olusugun vs Khan is a little silly for the moment. Khan is a big Lightweight, but Olusugun is a big Light Welter.

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 19 Jun 2007, 12:22

TerribleTerry wrote:
boxingchat wrote:Let's not get carried away with Olusegun fellas. He beat ON POINTS Gary Reid that's all for a vacant Commonwealth title. Reid was soundly beaten by Nigel Wright remember so it's hardly an earth shattering display is it?

Khan would beat him IMO and Khan would play with and humiliate Reid.
Dean Powell would have a function if he heard you were putting these sorts of fights forward for the SN golden goose!

The SN match making thus far does not reflect your confident swager.

Olusegun would be far too seasoned for Khan at this stage - can you not see that??

As someone said a month or so ago - think it was FW might have been Colin Hart.... Khan might now beat Thaxton, or Earl, or whomever but it would be a damaging fight....

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jun 2007, 16:04

Yes, I guess Khan would have a chance against those guys, but it's a big risk, I wouldn't put him in with Thaxon escpecially at this stage of his career, if the fight went past 6, you'd have to favour Thaxton to bash him up.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 19 Jun 2007, 17:11

Gary Reid at Lightweight would be a tough proposition for Khan (or just about any Lightweight in the UK). He's going to be as strong as an Ox at 9.9.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Jun 2007, 17:20

stujones wrote:Seriously though FB, how much worse is Limmond to Pryce and Nuumbembe P4P. Nuumbembe SCRAPED past Anderson (a tad controvesial) and Pryce has been exposed at British title level in the past, both at Light Middle and Welter.

I think talk of Olusugun vs Khan is a little silly for the moment. Khan is a big Lightweight, but Olusugun is a big Light Welter.

I agree there, this matchup wouldn't do Khan any favours at mo.
He's still a lightweight, also i've no problem with the Limmond fight next for Khan

leforge · Post by **leforge** » 19 Jun 2007, 17:30

who is boxing chat?

Achybreaky · Post by **Achybreaky** » 19 Jun 2007, 17:55

leforge wrote:who is boxing chat?

Fwanks personal Tea/'insert biccy of choice' engineer.

Amsterdam · Post by **Amsterdam** » 20 Jun 2007, 07:35

Khan won't be world class, he's a hype job joke.

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 20 Jun 2007, 07:42

Amsterdam wrote:Khan won't be world class, he's a hype job joke.

i wish someone could hype me up an olympic silver medal

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 20 Jun 2007, 09:29

sweetscience wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:Khan won't be world class, he's a hype job joke.
i wish someone could hype me up an olympic silver medal

I know what you are saying but Ricardo Williams was an Olympic Silver medal bust.

Cant see Khan getting involved with selling coke though somehow!

Top Dog · Post by **Top Dog** » 20 Jun 2007, 13:36

sweetscience wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:Khan won't be world class, he's a hype job joke.
i wish someone could hype me up an olympic silver medal

Mate, two different things all together. Big padded headgear, big soft gloves, that's why Khan wont be any big shakes in the pro game, total hype pish. The amateur game is more like a game of tag, they dont really score body shots anymore, at least not on the shows I've seen recently. Olusgen, Reid, Muttley, Morrison et al would all murder the kid. If he was that good he'd be in against these guys already

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 20 Jun 2007, 14:04

Top Dog wrote:
sweetscience wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:Khan won't be world class, he's a hype job joke.
i wish someone could hype me up an olympic silver medal
Mate, two different things all together. Big padded headgear, big soft gloves, that's why Khan wont be any big shakes in the pro game, total hype pish. The amateur game is more like a game of tag, they dont really score body shots anymore, at least not on the shows I've seen recently. Olusgen, Reid, Muttley, Morrison et al would all murder the kid. If he was that good he'd be in against these guys already

all those mentioned arnt in his weight division

and am/pro boxing is different, but class counts, and he has it

and dont give me that 'what about audley?' crap, Khan is different, he will be world class, and if not, british boxing is fucked cause we aint got anyone else anywhere near his talent (maybe Haye)

Khan has dusted everyone in his fights, is running rings round far more experienced pro's in the gym, so i dont see any reason why people would think he wont make it

being matched poorly doent count anymore, he is fighitn for the commonweath title in his 12/13th fight

twenty six · Post by **twenty six** » 20 Jun 2007, 15:47

Look I've no axe to grind with anyone, and as far as I'm concerned every UK Promotor has their good points, and their bad points.
This question is sincere - would your treatment of Khan be different if he was dealing with a different Promotional outlet, because I believe that to be a resounding yes.
Give the kid a break.
He's fighting for a title after a dozen fights, and can only challenge the belt holder.
Judge him when he steps up in class - which will only be when Oliver amongst others thinks he's ready.
As has already been pointed out, there is a vast difference between am and pro and adjustment needs time.
Or would you prefer to see his career ruined before it's started ?

twenty six · Post by **twenty six** » 20 Jun 2007, 15:49

Take a look at Ricky Hatton's first dozen or so opponents.
Didn't do him any harm, did it ?

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 20 Jun 2007, 16:12

I love the typical british outlook on out top prospects, Khan won a silver medal as an 18 YEAR OLD for f*cks sake. He has gone on to beat everyone put in front of him so far. Next up for him is an experienced pro who is still looking to win.
Lay off Khan , he's done more for boxing in this country than most other boxers ever have.

But most of you lot can't wait to see him fail

twenty six · Post by **twenty six** » 20 Jun 2007, 16:23

Old bones - couldn't agree more.