White Collar - City Boxer - Park Lane

[Shirow]

there's no point getting out your pram over this but ive seen a lot of these fellas being trained by so called trainers for these shows and from what ive seen someone's gonna get hurt it dosen't matter if you use a 16oz glove or 10oz glove it's all about being able to take a shot ive seen pro's get put over by 16oz gloves in sparring when i used to do a bit i had my nose broke in sparring by 16oz gloves so dont try to tell me that it's safer for people to take punches to the head if it lands propperly it's going to do some damage

It's only a little annoying because this happens so often. People state 'facts' about white collar boxing and it only becomes clear that these facts were invented if/when they're challenged. If by getting hurt you meant getting a broken nose or put on your arse then i misunderstood you. Risks like that are unavoidable in white collar boxing and i'd be surprised if anyone getting into it would think otherwise. I thought you meant more seriously hurt.
By control i mean bouts are matched carefully and reffed to make ensure no-one is going to take a beating or get humiliated. The reffing of these bouts is very different to a pro boxing match.

Pro & ex pro fighters occasionally come along and spar the guys at Cityboxer so they have no illusions about the gulf between white collar boxing and the real thing and get a greater appreciation for it. Not such a bad thing.

I'm sure that there are outfits that label themselves as white collar boxing who don't have a clue but the only ones i know about are staffed by ex boxers or pro/am trainers for extra cash on top of their regular work.

You say you've done a bit and would like to spar some of these guys but then wouldn't you be judged as of these no ability white collar boxers who shouldn't be allowed in a ring?

You have to judge each on it's own merits. The worst & most dangerous 'white collar' boxing event i've ever seen was James Cracknell the rower almost getting decapitated by an ex amateur boxer with a 2 stone weight advantage - as sanctioned by the ABA i believe...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=No_z9NyIf8s

[1southpaw]

there's no point getting out your pram over this but ive seen a lot of these fellas being trained by so called trainers for these shows and from what ive seen someone's gonna get hurt it dosen't matter if you use a 16oz glove or 10oz glove it's all about being able to take a shot ive seen pro's get put over by 16oz gloves in sparring when i used to do a bit i had my nose broke in sparring by 16oz gloves so dont try to tell me that it's safer for people to take punches to the head if it lands propperly it's going to do some damage

It's only a little annoying because this happens so often. People state 'facts' about white collar boxing and it only becomes clear that these facts were invented if/when they're challenged. If by getting hurt you meant getting a broken nose or put on your arse then i misunderstood you. Risks like that are unavoidable in white collar boxing and i'd be surprised if anyone getting into it would think otherwise. I thought you meant more seriously hurt.
By control i mean bouts are matched carefully and reffed to make ensure no-one is going to take a beating or get humiliated. The reffing of these bouts is very different to a pro boxing match.

Pro & ex pro fighters occasionally come along and spar the guys at Cityboxer so they have no illusions about the gulf between white collar boxing and the real thing and get a greater appreciation for it. Not such a bad thing.

I'm sure that there are outfits that label themselves as white collar boxing who don't have a clue but the only ones i know about are staffed by ex boxers or pro/am trainers for extra cash on top of their regular work.

You say you've done a bit and would like to spar some of these guys but then wouldn't you be judged as of these no ability white collar boxers who shouldn't be allowed in a ring?

You have to judge each on it's own merits. The worst & most dangerous 'white collar' boxing event i've ever seen was James Cracknell the rower almost getting decapitated by an ex amateur boxer with a 2 stone weight advantage - as sanctioned by the ABA i believe...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=No_z9NyIf8s

[N2 Shape]

I have no issues with White-Collar boxing its good for the sport in that its grows boxings fan base by getting people who probably wouldnt normally get involved in the sport.........involved. They can see a place for themselves in boxing. In rugby you have social teams and over 35 teams and restricted weight teams, i see White-Collar boxing as being the same as that an alternative for people who dont wish to be a Pro or compete as an amateur!

What i dont like though is how some of these white-collar guys go around talking as if they are the next Mohammed Ali of strat showing guys in the gym things like they are Manny Stewart etc! They need to know where they stand, yes well done you got in the ring i take my hat off to you it takes balls, but know your role the amateur and pro guys are on a whole new level that these white-collar guys could only dream of!

[Poncey]

Any chance that any videos of the fight will be available on youtube or the company website Jon?

Also, off subject, when will you know prices for hospitality for the Kessler fight as Dirk and I are thinking about just getting tickets and hopsitality from you, if that's possible?

[1southpaw]

I have no issues with White-Collar boxing its good for the sport in that its grows boxings fan base by getting people who probably wouldnt normally get involved in the sport.........involved. They can see a place for themselves in boxing. In rugby you have social teams and over 35 teams and restricted weight teams, i see White-Collar boxing as being the same as that an alternative for people who dont wish to be a Pro or compete as an amateur!

What i dont like though is how some of these white-collar guys go around talking as if they are the next Mohammed Ali of strat showing guys in the gym things like they are Manny Stewart etc! They need to know where they stand, yes well done you got in the ring i take my hat off to you it takes balls, but know your role the amateur and pro guys are on a whole new level that these white-collar guys could only dream of!

i think thats what i was trying to say

[Boxingmad]

there's no point getting out your pram over this but ive seen a lot of these fellas being trained by so called trainers for these shows and from what ive seen someone's gonna get hurt it dosen't matter if you use a 16oz glove or 10oz glove it's all about being able to take a shot ive seen pro's get put over by 16oz gloves in sparring when i used to do a bit i had my nose broke in sparring by 16oz gloves so dont try to tell me that it's safer for people to take punches to the head if it lands propperly it's going to do some damage

It's only a little annoying because this happens so often. People state 'facts' about white collar boxing and it only becomes clear that these facts were invented if/when they're challenged. If by getting hurt you meant getting a broken nose or put on your arse then i misunderstood you. Risks like that are unavoidable in white collar boxing and i'd be surprised if anyone getting into it would think otherwise. I thought you meant more seriously hurt.
By control i mean bouts are matched carefully and reffed to make ensure no-one is going to take a beating or get humiliated. The reffing of these bouts is very different to a pro boxing match.

Pro & ex pro fighters occasionally come along and spar the guys at Cityboxer so they have no illusions about the gulf between white collar boxing and the real thing and get a greater appreciation for it. Not such a bad thing.

I'm sure that there are outfits that label themselves as white collar boxing who don't have a clue but the only ones i know about are staffed by ex boxers or pro/am trainers for extra cash on top of their regular work.

You say you've done a bit and would like to spar some of these guys but then wouldn't you be judged as of these no ability white collar boxers who shouldn't be allowed in a ring?

You have to judge each on it's own merits. The worst & most dangerous 'white collar' boxing event i've ever seen was James Cracknell the rower almost getting decapitated by an ex amateur boxer with a 2 stone weight advantage - as sanctioned by the ABA i believe...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=No_z9NyIf8s

In agreement there, Jon. The ABA rant & rave about how bad we white-collar lot are, and then they go & put together a bout like that. That KO was frightening. At the Real Fight Club I'd say there are possibly two of our lads who could box as pros but only in the lower echelon of the pro ranks (i.e. have maybe a couple of bouts but that's it). Pro boxing is on a whole different level to the WCB, but at least we monitor the activity carefully. I still can't believe what i just saw on YouTube, if it was the ABA that sanctioned that....