John Murray tells Jon Thaxton "I'll fight you in Octobe

tyson · Post by **tyson** » 31 Jul 2007, 20:13

http://www.britishboxing.net/news_2560- ... tober.html

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 31 Jul 2007, 20:18

I recognise Earl as Britain's No 1 Lightweight based on achievements and wins.

Hope Murray steps up.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 01 Aug 2007, 03:16

Earl? I wouldn't rank him as the #1 Brit. His best domestic wins are a bit lucky.

I like Thaxton as the #1. Isn't Murray trying to step up too soon? Looks like Murray is suited to lightweight, and I think he's the best British prospect of the lot. Well schooled, improving, tidy and good with the presure (incl wicked body shots).

Then again, he's 21-0 and it's probably time to move up. I don't think he'd do a Meager, i.e. get walloped.

Still, it would have been good to see him in that Canadian fight on ShoBox.

I like Murray's style and his attitude a lot. Maybe a tune up or two would be in order, before Thaxton?

1southpaw · Post by **1southpaw** » 01 Aug 2007, 03:17

at least murry is trying to fight the best in the country to see where he stands good on you murry

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 01 Aug 2007, 03:57

1southpaw wrote:at least murry is trying to fight the best in the country to see where he stands good on you murry

opposed to who ?

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 01 Aug 2007, 04:53

Can Murray do better than Meager?

Technically, John's better than Meager. But shouldn't he maybe fight a Meager or a Danny Hunt next? Before going in deep?

If he times it well, he could do Thaxton like Hatton did. Thaxton's difficult, fit & a good fighter, but he has had bad injuries and can lose composure under fire.

Often, Murray boxed very much within himself. I belive he is trying out different moves. Sky seem to think he's not doing anything.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 01 Aug 2007, 05:29

Is Murray still injured?

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 01 Aug 2007, 06:07

Good post, Terry D.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 01 Aug 2007, 06:21

Thaxton-Murray would be a fantastic tear-up, but to be honest I can only see one winner (Britains #1) Thaxton, but fair play to Murray for wanting the fight.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 01 Aug 2007, 06:35

I don't see Earl as Britain's number one whoever said that. His British title wins are long gone and he doesnt appear to be in the picture anymore as a genuine threat. Thaxton i think is the best at the weight and a fight with Murray would be terrific, Khan i imagine will pick off the shopworn Earl next.

1southpaw · Post by **1southpaw** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:06

sweetscience wrote:
1southpaw wrote:at least murry is trying to fight the best in the country to see where he stands good on you murry
opposed to who ?

well khan has only beaten 1 good fighter (just) and murry wants to see who is the best in the country

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:13

Technically, yes, but

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:23

Twisted Transistor wrote:Earl has challenged for a Interim world title and wasn't outclassed

No he wasn't outclassed technically but he nearly had his flipping head knocked off a few times! I think it he took a resounding beating from what i recall

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:28

Earls win over Romanov is better than anyone Thaxtons beat BUT Thaxton maybe the better and may beat Earl. Would we expect Thaxton to beat Katsidis? Probably not.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:28

Kat was eating alot of left hooks too and was down as well. I thought Kat was more gassed.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:33

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Earls win over Romanov is better than anyone Thaxtons beat BUT Thaxton maybe the better and may beat Earl. Would we expect Thaxton to beat Katsidis? Probably not.

Thaxton may beat Earl I agree but he won't be No 1 unless he beats Earl or Ealr retires.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:54

Twisted Transistor wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Earls win over Romanov is better than anyone Thaxtons beat BUT Thaxton maybe the better and may beat Earl. Would we expect Thaxton to beat Katsidis? Probably not.
Thaxton may beat Earl I agree but he won't be No 1 unless he beats Earl or Ealr retires.

Because he got 2 HUGE gifts against Vanzie to win/defend the title or because he lost to Burns or because he chose to vacate the British title or because he just got destroyed against Katsidis?

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:57

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Earls win over Romanov is better than anyone Thaxtons beat BUT Thaxton maybe the better and may beat Earl. Would we expect Thaxton to beat Katsidis? Probably not.

Do you reckon Earl could ever repeat that win over Romanov? ie with Romanov keeping active, winning 2x EBU fights via KO, etc

OOPS, replied to the wrong post...

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 01 Aug 2007, 09:03

Autobarn wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Earls win over Romanov is better than anyone Thaxtons beat BUT Thaxton maybe the better and may beat Earl. Would we expect Thaxton to beat Katsidis? Probably not.
Do you reckon Earl could ever repeat that win over Romanov? ie with Romanov keeping active, winning 2x EBU fights via KO, etc

OOPS, replied to the wrong post...

Even though you weren't replying to me NO. Romanov is better now and he was rusty against Earl, Earl is probably past his best and probably couldn't take the same punnishment again. I actually scored the first fight to Romanov.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 01 Aug 2007, 09:09

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Autobarn wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Earls win over Romanov is better than anyone Thaxtons beat BUT Thaxton maybe the better and may beat Earl. Would we expect Thaxton to beat Katsidis? Probably not.
Do you reckon Earl could ever repeat that win over Romanov? ie with Romanov keeping active, winning 2x EBU fights via KO, etc

OOPS, replied to the wrong post...
Even though you weren't replying to me NO. Romanov is better now and he was rusty against Earl, Earl is probably past his best and probably couldn't take the same punnishment again. I actually scored the first fight to Romanov.

a case could be made for Yuri winning that fight. Yuri landed the better shots, whereas Earl controlled the pace over the first 2/3

Earl was unbelievable that night - never seen him like that. But I actually thimk Yuri ruined him in those last 5 rounds where he just hammered him with massive shots.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 01 Aug 2007, 09:24

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Twisted Transistor wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Earls win over Romanov is better than anyone Thaxtons beat BUT Thaxton maybe the better and may beat Earl. Would we expect Thaxton to beat Katsidis? Probably not.
Thaxton may beat Earl I agree but he won't be No 1 unless he beats Earl or Ealr retires.
Because he got 2 HUGE gifts against Vanzie to win/defend the title or because he lost to Burns or because he chose to vacate the British title or because he just got destroyed against Katsidis?

Not seen the Vanzie fights but Ramanov beat Vanzie and Earl has a win over Ramanov.

Hardly destroyed he was competitive against Kat and would of won If the fight went late I reckon.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 01 Aug 2007, 09:26

I think Earl's problem Is his defence Is too reliant on a tight covered up guard.

We'd have more talent If our fighters had more flexible guards.

Albert · Post by **Albert** » 02 Aug 2007, 09:35

John Murray needs to fight some with a pulse before he starts calling out Jon Thaxton he would give him a beating that he deserves.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 02 Aug 2007, 09:41

Albert wrote:John Murray needs to fight some with a pulse before he starts calling out Jon Thaxton he would give him a beating that he deserves.

Maybe Murray should start with Earl, and then Thaxton afterward.

BigEars · Post by **BigEars** » 02 Aug 2007, 10:18

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Autobarn wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Earls win over Romanov is better than anyone Thaxtons beat BUT Thaxton maybe the better and may beat Earl. Would we expect Thaxton to beat Katsidis? Probably not.
Do you reckon Earl could ever repeat that win over Romanov? ie with Romanov keeping active, winning 2x EBU fights via KO, etc

OOPS, replied to the wrong post...
Even though you weren't replying to me NO. Romanov is better now and he was rusty against Earl, Earl is probably past his best and probably couldn't take the same punnishment again. I actually scored the first fight to Romanov.

I also scored the fight for Romanov(by one round) and I feel if he had been active he probably would have stopped Earl , you could almost see Yuri shedding the rust before our eyes as he got better as the fight progressed . The fight was a toss up though and I don't think anyone could have a problem with somone scoring it for either fighter or scoring a draw .