Felix Trinidad vs Roy Jones Announced Early 2008

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 14 Aug 2007, 07:39

This should be fun, a surprising comeback fight for Trinidad.

http://www.maxboxing.com/gerbasi/gerbasi081407.asp

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 14 Aug 2007, 07:53

I would rather see these aging warriors take each other on, then tangle with the up coming, youthful elite.

Kind of like a seniors tour for boxing. Interesting enough but it wont get the pulse racing.

What weight is it at? Trinidad will be undersized for anything over 12st.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 14 Aug 2007, 07:58

Awfull matchup. Both are shot and Trinidad is no 170lb'er. Roy is a shadow of the fighter he was 10 years ago but he will still box rings around the shot, rusty and overweight Trinidad.

What next? Hamed vs Kelly II?

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 14 Aug 2007, 07:59

It's going to be at 170 lbs. I was just thinking that when I first read the article - I was wondering how these guys would fare against the best in the super middleweight and light heavyweight divisions. I think it's a good spectacle if they fight each other but dangerous to fight any little known fighter in his prime who has hunger and a bit of talent. I would not be surprised at all if Hopkins forgot about Calzaghe and went after the winner of this instead.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 14 Aug 2007, 08:08

Can Jones make 170 and not be completely dried out? He's looked shoddy getting down to 175! Trinidad is no 170lb er but if Glen Johnson could KO Jones at 175 then Trinidad certainly can 3 years later at 170.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 14 Aug 2007, 08:13

Trinidad looked awful against Wright, his timing was off and his power didn't seem to be there.
I can't see how a 2 year layoff would have helped him.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 14 Aug 2007, 08:15

Both are past their best no doubt about that. Jones has been more active but will his already diminishing punch resistance be further deteriorated by losing the extra 7lbs? Makes it a little more interesting IMO. This less elusive version of Jones is hardly as defensively adept as Wright was at 160 against Tito.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 14 Aug 2007, 09:28

Crap pointless fight. Both men are washed up shadows of their former selves.

Johnson hits a damned sight harder than Tito does, especially these days, Tito's balance looks shot to shit and anyone who can move even a bit can take his power away from him.

Jones should win this, he may even stop Tito as he is much the bigger stronger man.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 14 Aug 2007, 09:47

I've got a feeling that this will be an early nights work for Jones Jnr, who although not the fighter he once was, has still been active and on his last showing has something left in the tank.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 14 Aug 2007, 15:26

Tito would have always struggled against Wright, I don't think he is anywhere near as past it as Jones is.

Had Tito beaten Hopkins and then fought Jones Jr in 2002, he'd have been mullered. As for now, well I can't reallly be arsed to think about it.

rubberneck · Post by **rubberneck** » 14 Aug 2007, 19:27

Yawn.....

I agree with Mr Mcdonnell: this is a totally pointless fight. Win, lose or draw-who cares?

RJJ seems hellbent on destroying his legacy. It is a shame that he seems unable to walk away from the sport - something that I believe he should've done following his win over Ruiz.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 15 Aug 2007, 03:57

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfMMMW9lnV0

Don's crazy!

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 17 Aug 2007, 03:35

KOJOE90 wrote:Awfull matchup. Both are shot and Trinidad is no 170lb'er. Roy is a shadow of the fighter he was 10 years ago but he will still box rings around the shot, rusty and overweight Trinidad.

What next? Hamed vs Kelly II?

Why not?

It will sell tickets

It just goes to show the lack of depth in terms of talent and Marquee names in Boxing today.

Once these guys finish, DeLaHoya etc, who is left?

No One.

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 17 Aug 2007, 05:29

Jones should retire and Tito should stay retired.

Shirow · Post by **Shirow** » 17 Aug 2007, 05:32

It almost feels surreal to me that i couldn't care less about this fight. The names simply aren't enough on their own.

It's a wonder the difference 6 years can make.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 17 Aug 2007, 14:22

I thought Jones was shot but he isn't. He had a mid career crisis, and now he's adjusting to the fact that his feet have slowed down. He was actually good against the aggressive Hanshaw. I can see him having a Toney-style career resurgence. i.e. another good win or two.

Ultimately, I'm normally against these old men fights. But Jones was actually aggressive in stages with Hanshaw, though he had to conserve energy on the ropes a lot. Tito couldn't get through Wright's guard, and Wright may have just been wrong for him. But Trinidad did look good against Mayorga a couple of years back. Who knows, it could be dreck or it could be good.

This COULD be an interesting part of Jones' career. Unlike in his prime when he was too fast, he now has to face adversity. A lot of great fighters have shaken themselves out of shit periods. Both of RJJ's previous opponents to different degrees threw themselves at Roy from the opening bell. Ajamu was fvcked after rd 1, totally knackered. Hanshaw gave him what he needs - competitive rounds.

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 17 Aug 2007, 15:29

Holds no interest for me i'm afraid. Big names from the past just isn't enough anymore. Like someone said: Yawn.

The victor will not prove anything in a match up like this. Jones always has the fragile look since coming back down to 175 from heavy and to hear it is made at 170 is extremely worrying. Doesn't look as if he has 5lbs to spare. I would much rather see Jones back behind the mic with HBO. I always enjoyed his input and he knows his stuff, he could give us something Merchant couldn't, talking from experience.

As for Tito, I'm sick of the long lay offs then coming back for 1 or 2 fights then disappearing again. He had a great career but he really is yesterdays news.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 17 Aug 2007, 16:09

KO Artist wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:Awfull matchup. Both are shot and Trinidad is no 170lb'er. Roy is a shadow of the fighter he was 10 years ago but he will still box rings around the shot, rusty and overweight Trinidad.

What next? Hamed vs Kelly II?
Why not?

It will sell tickets

It just goes to show the lack of depth in terms of talent and Marquee names in Boxing today.

Once these guys finish, DeLaHoya etc, who is left?

No One.

I could not disagree with you more. So what if it sell tickets, popularity has little to do with quality. WWE does very well on PPV but I don't buy it.

And are you seriously saying that there is nothing left in Boxing apart from Tito, Jones Jr and De La Hoya????

There are countless young, excellent and promising fighters on the rise or already established.

Some Boxing fans always say that once faided 'big star' fighters X, Y & Z have gone there is nobody left to take their place but the long history of tells a VERY different story.

ebeneezer · Post by **ebeneezer** » 17 Aug 2007, 16:12

Steroids vs illegal hand wraps

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 17 Aug 2007, 16:44

Wow! What a matchup! I can't wait for this figh......... Oh, wait. Thought it was 2001 there for a minute.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 17 Aug 2007, 16:49

Twisted Transistor wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfMMMW9lnV0

Don's crazy!

don needs a big fight.

he's been struggling to attract the names lately.

i bet tito loses though and pisses off into retirement again.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 18 Aug 2007, 12:30

I think this is car crash TV. Two over the hill one time greats battling it out to "prove the public wrong" and win a world title etc etc Neither have anything significant left to offer.

thunderfromdownunder · Post by **thunderfromdownunder** » 18 Aug 2007, 20:35

this fight is stupid. if jones is serious about beeing a contender again he shouldnt be fighting welterweights.

trinidad should not fight any higher than middleweight

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 18 Aug 2007, 21:52

One thing I do find ironic about Jones is that when he was on top he acted like he was bored with boxing, now he's pretty much shot he seems interested again. The guy to me has always had athletic ability but he was never half as good as he deluded himself into thinking.