For the English, who do you want to win?Calzghe - Kessler

HairyBoxe24 · Post by **HairyBoxe24** » 28 Aug 2007, 17:36

It seems Kessler is trying to get some fans on his side by saying his mothers English, and it seems from threads that it's actually working and people are getting behind him.

I am not one of these, i am fully behind Calzaghe and will be at the fight, i see Boxing as more of UK then just England/Wales/Scotland etc, so please just the English vote on this, thanks.

CB · Post by CB » 28 Aug 2007, 18:14

As Calzaghe was actually born in England, my vote is on the Englisman.

JC · Post by JC » 28 Aug 2007, 19:12

I'm kind of torn on this one, I prefer kessler as a fighter and think it would be better for the sport if he won. However at the same time people have been predicting for so long how Kessler is going to expose Clazaghe, a little bit of me wants to see him win for shear comedy value.

Deram · Post by **Deram** » 28 Aug 2007, 21:39

Where one is born is random. That is the place where the parents happen to be at the time.

Blood, however, is not random.

Does Calzaghe have 50% Welsh blood, or 100% Italian?

Deram · Post by **Deram** » 29 Aug 2007, 00:43

Red Medicine wrote:
Deram wrote:Blood, however, is not random.
Actually, it is. You have either A, B, AB, or O, and you don't get to choose which kind you get when you're born.

LOL... you ... or well, hopefully... you know what I mean.

1southpaw · Post by **1southpaw** » 29 Aug 2007, 02:33

id like to see calzaghe chinned just to see if he could come back from it like a true champion would or would he move up to light heavy as was talked about a couple of years ago

jimglen · Post by **jimglen** » 29 Aug 2007, 02:36

I've always cheered for talent & honesty, if the opposing team scores a great goal or even makes some great plays, I applaud whole heartedly. Likewise if one of my teams players gets taking down, I never cry 'foul' unless it really is!

I have found in following Boxing & research 'we' England are the worst for Bias and insecurity, harnessing the same old names over & over again as though we have/had no others, rediculous, inaccurate and crazy.

I was cheering for Calzaghe & Hopkins years ago and likewise Eastman - Hopkins, long before it happened, when I think both boys could have beaten the overated Hopkins...now all these years later England in Calzaghe have demonstrated their typical Hype, Bullshite and protection,

I'd like to see Calzaghe win for Calzaghe's sake, but for National pride and identity 'we' England don't deserve it and niether do we for Hatton either and Khan is another on the English 'win', exalt, protect and praise up beyond all 'true' worth!

England just does not deserve it, KESSLER...

P.S. at least Ricky is going to attempt a TRUE reputable legacy, Jeff Lacy please, Manfredo say no more...Kessler might even stop him, would be nice if the B.S stopped with it!

from a British fan, but an honest man.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 29 Aug 2007, 06:20

I ALWAYS support the English fighter over any opponent, but I ain't having it that Mikkel is all of a sudden part of the master-nation.

I've never heard Kessler BIGGING up the English before this.

Kessler was born and bred in Denmark, he's a Dane. Come on JC!!

Of course if Kessler wins then he'll be as English as the Yorkshire Pudding(joke)

mattym · Post by **mattym** » 29 Aug 2007, 06:22

i have no dislike for Kessler, and i think him trying to use the 'English' angle is very astute of him.

i'm a big fan of both fighters but Joe is the Briton and i've been following him and admiring his work for a long time and would be a very proud lad if he could do the job. Going to this one too

CUMMMAAAAAN JOE!!

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 29 Aug 2007, 06:26

jimglen wrote:England just does not deserve it,

Can you please explain to me why the Great English nation 'does not desrve it'?

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » 29 Aug 2007, 06:32

It doesn't matter what the English think, JC will dismantle Kessler and that's that...

Though it's nice to see most on here agree.

We have three world champs now, that's pretty damn good for such a tiny country....

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 29 Aug 2007, 06:49

Chambers2 wrote:I ALWAYS support the English fighter over any opponent, but I ain't having it that Mikkel is all of a sudden part of the master-nation.

I've never heard Kessler BIGGING up the English before this.

Kessler was born and bred in Denmark, he's a Dane. Come on JC!!

Of course if Kessler wins then he'll be as English as the Yorkshire Pudding(joke)

you've nevr heard Calzaghe biggin gup the English either.

"I want England to lose."

Don't let him off for that.

J · Post by J » 29 Aug 2007, 06:51

Chambers2 wrote:
jimglen wrote:England just does not deserve it,
Can you please explain to me why the Great English nation 'does not desrve it'?

think Jim is Scots for starters certianly has Scots heritage.

that would explain a lot.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 29 Aug 2007, 06:53

Captain Hook wrote:It doesn't matter what the English think, JC will dismantle Kessler and that's that...

Though it's nice to see most on here agree.

We have three world champs now, that's pretty damn good for such a tiny country....

4 champs - calzaghe, Hatton, Rees, maccarinelli. with another to come this year, Haye IMO,

Kessler's going to do the dismantling. Calzaghe's got it coming. It's the fight he's seen fit to not grab for three years.

Kessler's done this before. Go abroad, beat on a talented homeboy. Mundine was defensive; Calzaghe will be agressive. Doesn't matter - instead of landing 1/2 punches he'll be landing full punches. Joe's not really fought a good boxer in his prime and he's never fought as good a fighter as Kessler, a very big talent in his prime.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 29 Aug 2007, 07:25

Ha - so the Calzaghe fans are voting under numerous aliases.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 29 Aug 2007, 07:39

Autobarn wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:I ALWAYS support the English fighter over any opponent, but I ain't having it that Mikkel is all of a sudden part of the master-nation.

I've never heard Kessler BIGGING up the English before this.

Kessler was born and bred in Denmark, he's a Dane. Come on JC!!

Of course if Kessler wins then he'll be as English as the Yorkshire Pudding(joke)
you've nevr heard Calzaghe biggin gup the English either.

"I want England to lose."

Don't let him off for that.

I'm primarily English, but I'm also British hence why I want JC to win. A very strong majority of Wales, Scotland and Ireland always want England to lose, but I rise above it.

I was at uni in Wales (Aberystwyth) and when England played France in the 5 nations the Welsh used to dress up in French colours with onions, berets and hooped tops

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 29 Aug 2007, 07:40

Autobarn wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:It doesn't matter what the English think, JC will dismantle Kessler and that's that...

Though it's nice to see most on here agree.

We have three world champs now, that's pretty damn good for such a tiny country....
4 champs - calzaghe, Hatton, Rees, maccarinelli. with another to come this year, Haye IMO,

Kessler's going to do the dismantling. Calzaghe's got it coming. It's the fight he's seen fit to not grab for three years.

Kessler's done this before. Go abroad, beat on a talented homeboy. Mundine was defensive; Calzaghe will be agressive. Doesn't matter - instead of landing 1/2 punches he'll be landing full punches. Joe's not really fought a good boxer in his prime and he's never fought as good a fighter as Kessler, a very big talent in his prime.

I think that when CH said we have 3 champs he was referring to the Welsh rather than the British

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 29 Aug 2007, 07:50

Macca and Rees are champs in 'paper title' form only.

As a patriotic Englishman, I honestly don't mind who wins to be honest.

As long as I see a quality fight

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 29 Aug 2007, 08:25

If calzaghe wins, what does that do for british boxing. We all know the follow up fights will be shit.

English Michael can move over here & take his place, after bashing him up!

T.M.K · Post by **T.M.K** » 29 Aug 2007, 09:44

Chambers2 wrote:
I'm primarily English, but I'm also British hence why I want JC to win. A very strong majority of Wales, Scotland and Ireland always want England to lose, but I rise above it.

Very well said sir, my full agreement. I also concur that Kessler is Danish-with-an-English-mother, whereas Calzaghe is Welsh-British so he must surely get our vote

Chambers2 wrote: when England played France in the 5 nations the Welsh used to dress up in French colours with onions, berets and hooped tops

And that is something I never understand. I understand Inter-British rivalry between the 3 main areas of the UK, but never supporting another country over one of our own. If our team goes out of a competition I would support Scotland or Wales, or even Ireland if they were still left in before I supported France etc.... I am always saddened by the Scottish/Welsh factions when they show this charateristic in their nature.

best wishes

"T.M.K"

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 29 Aug 2007, 09:45

Autobarn wrote:If calzaghe wins, what does that do for british boxing.

A Calzaghe win does alot more for British Boxing than a Kessler win

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 29 Aug 2007, 10:23

Welsh never want English to win so why should we want Calzaghe?

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 29 Aug 2007, 10:29

Autobarn wrote:Welsh never want English to win so why should we want Calzaghe?

Because we're all British and with us being the Master-nation

we should be setting the right example

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 29 Aug 2007, 10:32

If these were two boxers from say Switzerland and Austria, we would want the more exciting, younger boxer to win, who looks like he will take more risks and have better opponents. End of.

BUT.... Since JC is British, you have to get behind your man. Anyone who bashes up Lacy cant be all bad.

I dont like the majority of English people, and IM ENGLISH!

JC · Post by JC » 29 Aug 2007, 10:37

MIKEE wrote:If these were two boxers from say Switzerland and Austria, we would want the more exciting, younger boxer to win, who looks like he will take more risks and have better opponents. End of. BUT.... Since JC is British, you have to get behind your man

Maybe in football, Rugby or the Olympics where the competitors have been selected to represent the country, but I really apply this in boxing. I don't think there's any obligation to support a fighter just because he's British.

For the English, who do you want to win?Calzghe - Kessler

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For the English, who do you want to win?Calzghe - Kessler