Australian Dual Meet in Oregon

JohnDoe · Post by **JohnDoe** » 11 Sep 2007, 00:28

Anyone know the results of this? Any why they only sent one member of the Olympic team there?

J*BOX* · Post by J*BOX* » 11 Sep 2007, 00:39

THE TEAM WAS

106 FRANKLIN
112 ALAFA
125 WILLIAMS
132 ALI
141 GARCIA (RSC)
152 HATLEY
165 ESTRADA (OLYMPIAN)
178 SHABAZZ

AND THE USA TEAM TOOK EVERY MATCH WITH ONE KNOCKOUT

JohnDoe · Post by **JohnDoe** » 11 Sep 2007, 01:49

Any one know the dates and countries for the dual meets that the 1st String Olympic Team will go to?

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 11 Sep 2007, 17:30

Might be the Worlds in Chicago. I wouldn't be surprised if it was.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 11 Sep 2007, 17:31

Anyone know why there wasn't a 201 or 201+ bout at the dual? Did Australia fail to bring the two big guys?

J*BOX* · Post by J*BOX* » 12 Sep 2007, 17:35

KIMDO BETHEL WAS SUPPOSED TO FIGHT AT 201+ BUT NEVER SHOWED UP.. AND NOBODY HEARD FROM HIM.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 13 Sep 2007, 11:31

An athlete not showing or not calling is not good and he should not be given any future international experience unless he was in the hospital unconscious or something.

What about 201? Did the US have another guy not show or what?

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 13 Sep 2007, 14:56

Given the below results, I wonder if the Aussies sent their #1 guys....

USA VS. AUSTRALIA DUAL - SEPTEMBER 8 - BEND, OREGON

106 lbs/48 kg: Malcolm Franklin, Rialto, Calif./AUS dec. Stephen Sutherland, AUS, 26-18
112 lbs/51 kg: Aaron Alafa, Visalia, Calif./USA stopped Jimmy Ceapa, RSCO
125 lbs/57 kg: Raynell Williams, Cleveland, Ohio/USA dec. Luke Boyd, AUS, 30-21
132 lbs/60 kg: Sadam Ali, Brooklyn, N.Y./USA dec. William Tomlinson, AUS, 27-14
141 lbs/64 kg: Danny Garcia, Philadelphia, Pa./USA stopped Todd Kidd, AUS, RSC
152 lbs/69 kg: Charles Hatley, Dallas, Texas/USA dec. Gerard O’Mahoney, AUS
165 lbs/75 kg: Shawn Estrada, Downey, Calif./USA dec. Jarrod Fletcher, AUS, 17-10
178 lbs/81 kg: Siju Shabazz, Las Cruces, N.M./USA dec. Matthew Corbett, AUS

J*BOX* · Post by J*BOX* » 13 Sep 2007, 17:23

Dennis wrote:An athlete not showing or not calling is not good and he should not be given any future international experience unless he was in the hospital unconscious or something.

What about 201? Did the US have another guy not show or what?

AUSTRAILIA DID NOT BRING ANYONE IN THE 201 CLASS

J*BOX* · Post by J*BOX* » 13 Sep 2007, 17:28

J*BOX* wrote:KIMDO BETHEL WAS SUPPOSED TO FIGHT AT 201+ BUT NEVER SHOWED UP.. AND NOBODY HEARD FROM HIM.

I'M SURE THEY KNEW THEY MADE A MISTAKE NOT BRINGING WILSON, SINCE HE ALWAYS SHOWS UP FOR FIGHTS AND CAMPS. THEY PROBABLY FIGURED THEY WOULD GIVE BETHEL A CHANCE BUT HE JUST BLEW IT.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 13 Sep 2007, 18:22

Jarrod Fletcher is indeed Australia's top middleweight. I'm surprised Estrada handled him like that, Fletcher is supposed to be really good and I wasn't sure if Shawn was completely over his issues with keeping calm.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 13 Sep 2007, 19:42

Kolya - You just never know what Shawn is going to show up. So far it's been good.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed because he's a good kid and a good athlete.

Hurricane Hank · Post by **Hurricane Hank** » 17 Sep 2007, 19:40

Would anyone know where I can purchase a DVD of this show?

Thank you.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 17 Sep 2007, 19:58

You can try emailing Julie Goldsticker at [email protected] and see if they taped it for sale.

Hurricane Hank · Post by **Hurricane Hank** » 17 Sep 2007, 20:16

Thank you very much, Boxmel.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 17 Sep 2007, 22:11

You're welcome.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 18 Sep 2007, 16:38

I am glad to see a clean sweep by the U.S. Now if the #1 team can do well in Chicago that would be even better.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 18 Sep 2007, 23:22

Said JohnDoe:

Any why they only sent one member of the Olympic team there?

Three members of the Olympic team participated in the dual with Australia: Raynell Williams, Sadam Ali and Shawn Estrada.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 20 Sep 2007, 00:17

And all 3 won. That's a good start.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 20 Sep 2007, 00:24

My Australian coach friend cringed when he saw the results. He even said they weren't the best. That's their World team, not necessarily going to the Olympics. Guess they are sticking around the U.S. for sparring/experience.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 20 Sep 2007, 12:32

Other countries think that sticking around the U.S. will benefit them? That must say we are doing something right. I really think our athletes could be the best in the world, but they need to gain experience. More international trips for more athletes starting at age 15 would really help.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 20 Sep 2007, 13:33

Dennis wrote:Other countries think that sticking around the U.S. will benefit them? That must say we are doing something right. I really think our athletes could be the best in the world, but they need to gain experience. More international trips for more athletes starting at age 15 would really help.

Unfortunately, and not to be negative; but Australia's amateur program and system really isn't that great. They have some good fighters (like Jarrod Fletcher); but all my Aussie friends have told me their system down there isn't really very good. So staying in the US for a while is probably a great opportunity for that team to get experience in the US and training they don't get in Oz.

ELA · Post by **ELA** » 20 Sep 2007, 16:18

Getting back to Shawn Estrada. We just had a celebration for him this past Saturday and he is extremely focused.

BTW, Hello BoxMel. This ELAndy, formally from Montebello PAL.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 20 Sep 2007, 19:08

Hey, Andy - what do you mean formerly from Montebello PAL? Where are you now?

I most sincerely hope Shawn stays focused for the next year. In talking with Dan Campbell in May, he seems to understand Shawn and knows just how to work with him to overcome the "other" Shawn. I have always liked Shawn and have watched him come out of the JOs and move into the elite group. I'm proud of him and my fingers are crossed for him - and Javier (our LBC) and Mike Hunter (our Region). All are great young men.

ELA · Post by **ELA** » 21 Sep 2007, 11:07

Hello - I hope you and your husband Rick are doing well?

I was at Santa Fe Springs BC for a while. I am now training amateurs and pros at La Azteca in Bell.

I totally agree with you as well Shawn, Javier and Mike are all solid kids and deserve nothing but the best.

I hope to see you soon. Take care and God Bless!!!

Australian Dual Meet in Oregon

Australian Dual Meet in Oregon

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