Best Amateur record you've seen? EVER............
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roundtwelve
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Amateur Boxing Records
Oscar may have had 5 losses and 223 victories as an amateur......but 163 of his wins were by KO. Now that's impressive........more so if you've ever stepped in the ring with head gear on. . . . to get KO'd (or the amateur version of KO.....weak).....
still pretty amazing....
....go Oscar. . . he beat Mayweather
still pretty amazing....
....go Oscar. . . he beat Mayweather
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Boxing Fanatic
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Re: Amateur Boxing Records
roundtwelve wrote:Oscar may have had 5 losses and 223 victories as an amateur......but 163 of his wins were by KO. Now that's impressive........more so if you've ever stepped in the ring with head gear on. . . . to get KO'd (or the amateur version of KO.....weak).....
still pretty amazing....
....go Oscar. . . he beat Mayweather
I agree with you on the whole thing... expecially the part about him beating Maywheather
Re: Amateur Boxing Records
And you probably thought he coasted to a victory over Trinidad too. Oscar is good, but sometimes he just doesn't do enough.Boxing Fanatic wrote:roundtwelve wrote:Oscar may have had 5 losses and 223 victories as an amateur......but 163 of his wins were by KO. Now that's impressive........more so if you've ever stepped in the ring with head gear on. . . . to get KO'd (or the amateur version of KO.....weak).....
still pretty amazing....
....go Oscar. . . he beat Mayweather
I agree with you on the whole thing... expecially the part about him beating Maywheather
Oscar's verifiable (passbook) amateur record was 200 wins and 5 losses (4 as a JO and 1 loss to Marco Rudolph in the World Championships).Oscar may have had 5 losses and 223 victories as an amateur......but 163 of his wins were by KO. Now that's impressive........more so if you've ever stepped in the ring with head gear on. . . . to get KO'd (or the amateur version of KO.....weak).....
still pretty amazing....
Ummmm - 163 KOs........do you mean RSCH's where the bouts were stopped due to head blows? Or do you mean RSCs where a bout was stopped because the opponent was overmatched, quit, or whatever? KOs in amateur boxing are not the same as in the pros. I never saw Oscar flatten anyone the many times I judged or watched his fights. So, to me, 163 "KOs" is suspect.
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williefromrichmond
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Richard Guerrero
An earlier inquiry asked about Richard Guerrero, of Chicago. During the late 1940's and early 1950's, Guerrero piled up a record of 343-2. He was the Chicago CYO novice lightweight champion in 1946 and open lightweight champion 1947-1949. His only two losses are said to have been to Charles Cotton and Al Prislinger. And, yes, he did beat Floyd Patterson. He was also a national Golden Gloves champion several times.
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SD-Prophecy
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Guillermo Rigondeaux
Amateur Recored: 247 fights; 243+, 4-
2000, Sydney: Bantamweight Olympic Champion.
2001, Belfast: Bantamweight Senior Amateur World Champion.
2001, Brisbane - Gold Medal Goodwill Games.
2002, Astana - Fisrt Place Boxing World Cup.
2003, Santo Domingo: Bantamweight Panamerican Games Champion.
2004, Atenas: Bantamweight Olympic Champion.
2005, Teresópolis: Bantamweight Panamerican Champion.
2005, Myangyang: Bantamweight Senior Amateur World Champion.
2006, Cartagena de Indias - Gold Medal Central American and Caribbean Games.
2006, Bakú - First Place Nations Cup.
This guy was incredicle IMO the best cuban fighter ever, I'll put him even over Teofilio Stevenson. I really wanted to see him in the pro's it simply sad that they caught him defecting.
Amateur Recored: 247 fights; 243+, 4-
2000, Sydney: Bantamweight Olympic Champion.
2001, Belfast: Bantamweight Senior Amateur World Champion.
2001, Brisbane - Gold Medal Goodwill Games.
2002, Astana - Fisrt Place Boxing World Cup.
2003, Santo Domingo: Bantamweight Panamerican Games Champion.
2004, Atenas: Bantamweight Olympic Champion.
2005, Teresópolis: Bantamweight Panamerican Champion.
2005, Myangyang: Bantamweight Senior Amateur World Champion.
2006, Cartagena de Indias - Gold Medal Central American and Caribbean Games.
2006, Bakú - First Place Nations Cup.
This guy was incredicle IMO the best cuban fighter ever, I'll put him even over Teofilio Stevenson. I really wanted to see him in the pro's it simply sad that they caught him defecting.
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locoxelbox
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PRKO wrote:Guillermo Rigondeaux
Amateur Recored: 247 fights; 243+, 4-
Sorry to dissapoint you guys but these amateur records, as well as most of them are fabricated. I've seen Inkin get stopped in international competition and he never was the No 1 in his country so I'd expect him to have more than just 10 losses and if he turned pro at 23 years old I doubt he had more than 300 amateur bouts.Dennis Inkin had above 300 wins and about 10 losses
About Rigondeaux I talked to him this year and he told me he has 12 losses, most of them when he was very young.
Agreed! Most records are made up.locoxelbox wrote:PRKO wrote:Guillermo Rigondeaux
Amateur Recored: 247 fights; 243+, 4-Sorry to dissapoint you guys but these amateur records, as well as most of them are fabricated. I've seen Inkin get stopped in international competition and he never was the No 1 in his country so I'd expect him to have more than just 10 losses and if he turned pro at 23 years old I doubt he had more than 300 amateur bouts.Dennis Inkin had above 300 wins and about 10 losses
About Rigondeaux I talked to him this year and he told me he has 12 losses, most of them when he was very young.
I have a brochure from the '01 World championships in Belfast that the Cubans handed out. It had a bio on each Cuban boxer and Rigo's record then was listed at 193-12. Of course he has had many bouts since then and probably no loses.
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locoxelbox
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Good but not all time great record as he was never an olympic medalist or world champion.
Claims a record of 256 victories, 47 losses, 5 draws.
Partial record: http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/ottke.html
Claims a record of 256 victories, 47 losses, 5 draws.
Partial record: http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/ottke.html
I agree that most of the records are not accurate. As far as a 23 year old not having more than 300 bouts, that could be true. Many boxers are able to compete in 3 or 4 major tournaments and numerous club shows per year so they can box 25+ bouts each year. If they start competing at age 8, they can have over 300 bouts by the time they are 23. Some have that many bouts before they turn 21.locoxelbox wrote:PRKO wrote:Guillermo Rigondeaux
Amateur Recored: 247 fights; 243+, 4-Sorry to dissapoint you guys but these amateur records, as well as most of them are fabricated. I've seen Inkin get stopped in international competition and he never was the No 1 in his country so I'd expect him to have more than just 10 losses and if he turned pro at 23 years old I doubt he had more than 300 amateur bouts.Dennis Inkin had above 300 wins and about 10 losses
About Rigondeaux I talked to him this year and he told me he has 12 losses, most of them when he was very young.
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SD-Prophecy
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locoxelbox
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Chagaev lost to Luan Krasniqi at the 1996 Olympics, to Yurkis Sterlin at the 1996 World Juniors, to Felix Savon at the 1999 World Championships, to Wladimir Chanturia at the 2000 Olympìc Games. That's four losses right there and I'm pretty sure he must have some more, specially early in his career. Just to let you know, never trust these fabulous amateur records.
