Best Amateur record you've seen? EVER............

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Oscar may have had 5 losses and 223 victories as an amateur......but 163 of his wins were by KO. Now that's impressive........more so if you've ever stepped in the ring with head gear on. . . . to get KO'd (or the amateur version of KO.....weak).....
still pretty amazing....

....go Oscar. . . he beat Mayweather
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Re: Amateur Boxing Records

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roundtwelve wrote:Oscar may have had 5 losses and 223 victories as an amateur......but 163 of his wins were by KO. Now that's impressive........more so if you've ever stepped in the ring with head gear on. . . . to get KO'd (or the amateur version of KO.....weak).....
still pretty amazing....

....go Oscar. . . he beat Mayweather



I agree with you on the whole thing... expecially the part about him beating Maywheather
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Re: Amateur Boxing Records

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Boxing Fanatic wrote:
roundtwelve wrote:Oscar may have had 5 losses and 223 victories as an amateur......but 163 of his wins were by KO. Now that's impressive........more so if you've ever stepped in the ring with head gear on. . . . to get KO'd (or the amateur version of KO.....weak).....
still pretty amazing....

....go Oscar. . . he beat Mayweather



I agree with you on the whole thing... expecially the part about him beating Maywheather
And you probably thought he coasted to a victory over Trinidad too. Oscar is good, but sometimes he just doesn't do enough.
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Oscar may have had 5 losses and 223 victories as an amateur......but 163 of his wins were by KO. Now that's impressive........more so if you've ever stepped in the ring with head gear on. . . . to get KO'd (or the amateur version of KO.....weak).....
still pretty amazing....
Oscar's verifiable (passbook) amateur record was 200 wins and 5 losses (4 as a JO and 1 loss to Marco Rudolph in the World Championships).

Ummmm - 163 KOs........do you mean RSCH's where the bouts were stopped due to head blows? Or do you mean RSCs where a bout was stopped because the opponent was overmatched, quit, or whatever? KOs in amateur boxing are not the same as in the pros. I never saw Oscar flatten anyone the many times I judged or watched his fights. So, to me, 163 "KOs" is suspect.
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Richard Guerrero

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An earlier inquiry asked about Richard Guerrero, of Chicago. During the late 1940's and early 1950's, Guerrero piled up a record of 343-2. He was the Chicago CYO novice lightweight champion in 1946 and open lightweight champion 1947-1949. His only two losses are said to have been to Charles Cotton and Al Prislinger. And, yes, he did beat Floyd Patterson. He was also a national Golden Gloves champion several times.
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Re Benvenuti am career -- he printed his mateur record in his autobio I Benvenuti
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Post by Mario »

Best ive ever seen is definitely Dick McTaggarts record of 610 wins from 634 bouts.
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verballistic wrote:wikipedia bio on 1960 OG gold medalist nino benvenuti says he was 120-0 as an amateur...i know wiki comes up short at times...can anyone verify or disprove this? :roll:
He was 119-1
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Guillermo Rigondeaux

Amateur Recored: 247 fights; 243+, 4-
2000, Sydney: Bantamweight Olympic Champion.
2001, Belfast: Bantamweight Senior Amateur World Champion.
2001, Brisbane - Gold Medal Goodwill Games.
2002, Astana - Fisrt Place Boxing World Cup.
2003, Santo Domingo: Bantamweight Panamerican Games Champion.
2004, Atenas: Bantamweight Olympic Champion.
2005, Teresópolis: Bantamweight Panamerican Champion.
2005, Myangyang: Bantamweight Senior Amateur World Champion.
2006, Cartagena de Indias - Gold Medal Central American and Caribbean Games.
2006, Bakú - First Place Nations Cup.

This guy was incredicle IMO the best cuban fighter ever, I'll put him even over Teofilio Stevenson. I really wanted to see him in the pro's it simply sad that they caught him defecting.
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Dennis Inkin had above 300 wins and about 10 losses before turning a pro. He is 32-0 since that...
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PRKO wrote:Guillermo Rigondeaux

Amateur Recored: 247 fights; 243+, 4-
Dennis Inkin had above 300 wins and about 10 losses
Sorry to dissapoint you guys but these amateur records, as well as most of them are fabricated. I've seen Inkin get stopped in international competition and he never was the No 1 in his country so I'd expect him to have more than just 10 losses and if he turned pro at 23 years old I doubt he had more than 300 amateur bouts.

About Rigondeaux I talked to him this year and he told me he has 12 losses, most of them when he was very young.
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locoxelbox wrote:
PRKO wrote:Guillermo Rigondeaux

Amateur Recored: 247 fights; 243+, 4-
Dennis Inkin had above 300 wins and about 10 losses
Sorry to dissapoint you guys but these amateur records, as well as most of them are fabricated. I've seen Inkin get stopped in international competition and he never was the No 1 in his country so I'd expect him to have more than just 10 losses and if he turned pro at 23 years old I doubt he had more than 300 amateur bouts.

About Rigondeaux I talked to him this year and he told me he has 12 losses, most of them when he was very young.
Agreed! Most records are made up.
I have a brochure from the '01 World championships in Belfast that the Cubans handed out. It had a bio on each Cuban boxer and Rigo's record then was listed at 193-12. Of course he has had many bouts since then and probably no loses.
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sven ottke has a awesome record i beleive i think its around 300 wins with 10-15 losses
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Post by locoxelbox »

Good but not all time great record as he was never an olympic medalist or world champion.
Claims a record of 256 victories, 47 losses, 5 draws.
Partial record: http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/ottke.html
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locoxelbox wrote:
PRKO wrote:Guillermo Rigondeaux

Amateur Recored: 247 fights; 243+, 4-
Dennis Inkin had above 300 wins and about 10 losses
Sorry to dissapoint you guys but these amateur records, as well as most of them are fabricated. I've seen Inkin get stopped in international competition and he never was the No 1 in his country so I'd expect him to have more than just 10 losses and if he turned pro at 23 years old I doubt he had more than 300 amateur bouts.

About Rigondeaux I talked to him this year and he told me he has 12 losses, most of them when he was very young.
I agree that most of the records are not accurate. As far as a 23 year old not having more than 300 bouts, that could be true. Many boxers are able to compete in 3 or 4 major tournaments and numerous club shows per year so they can box 25+ bouts each year. If they start competing at age 8, they can have over 300 bouts by the time they are 23. Some have that many bouts before they turn 21.
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Post by SD-Prophecy »

Francisc Vastag was a Romanian amateur boxer (Never turned professional) his amateur record was 385-17
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Post by bigped »

What bout craig mcewan he boxes in states under golden boy but is from edinburgh, says on his bio he had 376 fights, i was at his amture club and the guy would fight on every show possible, havent heard from him in a while, how can you find out how many he won??
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Post by sunny »

current wba heavyweight champion ruslan chagaev had 82-3
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Post by sunny »

current wba heavyweight champion ruslan chagaev had 82-3
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Chagaev lost to Luan Krasniqi at the 1996 Olympics, to Yurkis Sterlin at the 1996 World Juniors, to Felix Savon at the 1999 World Championships, to Wladimir Chanturia at the 2000 Olympìc Games. That's four losses right there and I'm pretty sure he must have some more, specially early in his career. Just to let you know, never trust these fabulous amateur records.
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