Sadam Ali has Jose Pedraza of Puerto Rico, and then probably Armenia if he wins.
If Molina beats Jamaica, likely next would be Maharramov of Azerbaijan. Ouch.
Andrade has Jvania, a very solid fighter from Georgia.
Estrada has an Israeli and either Japan or Lithuania in round 2 if he wins. Great draw for him.
Downs vs Sillakh of Ukraine. Yeeks. This draw is not great for the US.
Wilder has Zimnoch of Poland, not easy, and then likely Povernov of Germany if he wins.
Hunter has Mexico, then probably Turkey. Not bad.
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The real time scoring is really neat, providing you don't have anything else to do. Sigh.I have to leave work now, so I guess I will miss some results. Hopefully they will put them up soon.
I'm 99% sure that Rezkalla d Zabins.
Han d Avagyan
Julie d Castillejo (Win for Mauritius! Awesome)
Tretyak about to finish off Pereira.
And one to watch right now. Orzubek Shayimov of Uzbekistan is losing to a Jordanian after one round. That would be a massive upset.
I'm 99% sure that Rezkalla d Zabins.
Han d Avagyan
Julie d Castillejo (Win for Mauritius! Awesome)
Tretyak about to finish off Pereira.
And one to watch right now. Orzubek Shayimov of Uzbekistan is losing to a Jordanian after one round. That would be a massive upset.
Missed some of the late afternoon results, but the evening session is underway and France just got another huge win, by Alexis Vastine at 64kg 28-27 over Dilshod Mahmudov of Uzbekistan.
The defending Olympic champion at 64kg, Manus Boonjumnong is losing to a Japanese fighter with one round to go. This would be a pretty massive upset if it holds.
Final - Kawachi Masatsugu wins 14-9 over Boonjumnong. Japan hasn't had a top amateur fighter in a long time, so this really surprises me.
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Javier Molina in now with Rikardo Smith.
The defending Olympic champion at 64kg, Manus Boonjumnong is losing to a Japanese fighter with one round to go. This would be a pretty massive upset if it holds.
Final - Kawachi Masatsugu wins 14-9 over Boonjumnong. Japan hasn't had a top amateur fighter in a long time, so this really surprises me.
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Javier Molina in now with Rikardo Smith.
Javier Molina won. It was a lot closer than it should of been. He looked stiff in the 1st 2 rounds and then open up in the next two. I don't remember the score. Russell looked OK. It seemed the same for him as with Molina. They are not used to being cheered by the crowd. The crowd was decent size.
The officials are being kept out of the field of play in a seperate room until the bout before they work. Part of the new AIBA to keep cheating out.
The officials are being kept out of the field of play in a seperate room until the bout before they work. Part of the new AIBA to keep cheating out.
I'm disappointed that they keep using the same bracket system. I just don't think it's right to load all of the byes together, so you have one quarter of the bracket with eight fighters and another quarter with sixteen - when you could have all of the brackets with twelve fighters. This creates a greater likelihood that one bracket will overloaded with top fighters and another too easy. My only theory for why they do it this way is that they want to give smaller countries a chance to get a bronze.
It's disappointing to not have Cuba there, but also where is Algeria and Tunisia. Morocco only brought two fighters as well. What happened?
I think the best day yesterday was France. 2-0, with both wins against top competition. Philippines probably had the worst day, going 0-2 and losing one of their most highly regarded fighters. The US results were okay. Russell took a while to break away from Dydi - I think it was 6-5 at one point halfway through. Dydi is pretty good, not Euro A level, but probably B level - and my memory is that he usually has low scoring fights. The good news for Gary is that his next fight should be easier. Molina appears to have been hit a bit, and that's worrisome. And his next fight is against Maharramov, a very experienced Azerbaijani. Maharramov did struggle to get past a guy from Turkmenistan I haven't heard of, but his experience is going to cause problems for Molina.
And I've had a chance to review all the brackets, so here's my uneducated take on them. I'm looking forward to seeing some new names break out and mess up these predictions.
48kg - As mentioned, this draw was terrible for the favorites. The eighth "pod" (the group from which one fighter will qualify for the Olympics) has Bedak, Serdamba, Ayrepetyan, Zhakipov, and Zou. Only one will even qualify for the Olympics, much less go on to medal! That makes the other medal brackets a lot easier. Yanez is, IIRC, the only American to get a bye - he has a great chance to qualify and being in the top half of the bracket gives him his best chance of getting a medal.
51 kg - The top half of this draw is pretty wide open as well. Again it is the bottom medal bracket that is loaded - Warren, Payla, Thomas, and Balakshin. Thomas and Balakshin have to meet in the first round - the Russians got some terrible draws, Warren's is not great - Doniyarov will be tough and Payla would likely stand between him and qualification.
54kg - Again the top is pretty open - great chance for Puerto Rico or the Dom Republic to medal. The second medal bracket is tougher with new Russian Vodopyanov, Russell, and Hallab. Hallab will likely stand in Russell's way for qualification. This bracket is a lot better balanced than the first two.
57kg - Yet again, the top draw is totally open. Raynell Williams has a very tough task to get anywhere in the impossible second bracket, which includes Selimov, Sultanov, Djelkhir, Ospanov, and Zorigtbataar. If Williams beats Djelkhir, which will be very difficult in itself, he would likely have to beat Kazakhstan and Mongolia just to qualify for the Olympics. We'll be seeing him in the continental qualifiers no doubt. There are opportunities for surprises in the lower half of the bracket.
60kg - This time the top draw is not open, because Tishchenko is in it and it also has fighters from South Korea, Thailand, Germany, and Mongolia. Overall, this seems to be a slightly more balanced bracket without a lot of big names. Sadam Ali has a chance. He opens with Jose Pedraza of PR, then would probably have Javakhyan of Armenia, and Bulgaria or the Philippines will probably have the other qualification spot. This time the bottom bracket is probably the easiest with Kim Song Guk of North Korea and Hu Qing of China perhaps the favorites.
64kg - With Boonjumnong shockingly out, everybody has to feel good in the top half of the draw - Sapiyev is maybe the favorite now, and has a very doable route to the semis. If Molina could beat Maharramov he would probably face England's Bradley Saunders for a qualification spot and the winner there would have a good chance to medal. The bottom draw is the bear, with Kovalev, Kate and Georgiev. Again, bad Russian draw, somebody has it in for them.
69kg - Super easy top quarter again - Turkey might steal medals at 57 and 69 thanks to good draws. The second bracket is also pretty easy, so this is a good opportunity for everyone to make the final. And that includes Andrade, who has overall a great draw. Jvania will be a tough first fight, but his second should be easier if he wins, and then he would probably fight Nurudinov to qualify - a guy I'm pretty sure he's beaten before. Andrade has a superb chance to make the final - it's up to him. Balanov has to fight Stretskyy in his opener, another tough draw for Russia, but should cruise after that. Again, the bottom draw is the toughest with fighters from South Korea, Azerbaijan, China, Uzbekistan, Brazil, France and Kazakhstan. Noel and Sarsekbayev is a massive first-round meetup.
75kg - Bakhityar Artayev, the defenidng Val Barker winner, has a pretty easy draw in the top bracket, with only Thailand's Prasinthinphimai looking like a possible road bump. The second bracket is also pretty easy, and Shawn Estrada probably has the best draw of any American. There are fighters from Mexico, France, and Germany who can stop him from qualification - but he couldn't have asked for a much better draw. The third bracket is pretty open, with Rasulov the probable favorite and Korobov should rule the bottom bracket.
81kg - I believe this bracket has the fewest entrants of the weights with 8 qualification places. Artur Beterbiev is in the top bracket with very little in the way to stop him from getting to the final - he could face Josh Garza of the US/Mexico in round 2. The second bracket has no big names and offers opportunity for medals to Iran, Armenia, maybe even Sweden. The bottom half will be competitive with Ireland's Kenneth Egan in with a chance in the third bracket. Christoper Downs got a terrible draw against very tough Ukrainian Ismayl Sillakh and will probably be one and done. Kurbanov is also in the bracket and will be the favorite to meet Sillakh for a medal place.
91kg - With only four qualification places, this will be a dogfight. The top of the draw is stacked with new Russian Chakhiev, Poyatsika, and Alizade. Only one will qualify - tough. The second and fourth brackets are more open. The third includes Deontay Wilder, who will have a tough time against an experienced group. If he beats Zimnoch, he'll probably have Povernov, and it's hard to see him having the experience to win that one. A win there would probably mean a fight with Clemente Russo of Italy, and then another tough opponent to medal and qualify. Hopefully, he'll get some momentum towards the Olympics.
91+kg - Top quarter is totally open - perhaps the Kazakhstani is the favorite, but he is not a big name. The second bracket is a lot tougher with Saidov, Kober, and Ciocan. But the bottom half has the big guns - fortunately, Timurziev and Cammarelle can't meet until the semis. Michael Hunter is in the bracket with Timurziev, and might have a shot to meet him with Ruiz, Gunebakan, and maybe Delavari in his way - all beatable I think. Cammarelle looks strong on the bottom, with Pulev and David Price of England there to challenge.
It's disappointing to not have Cuba there, but also where is Algeria and Tunisia. Morocco only brought two fighters as well. What happened?
I think the best day yesterday was France. 2-0, with both wins against top competition. Philippines probably had the worst day, going 0-2 and losing one of their most highly regarded fighters. The US results were okay. Russell took a while to break away from Dydi - I think it was 6-5 at one point halfway through. Dydi is pretty good, not Euro A level, but probably B level - and my memory is that he usually has low scoring fights. The good news for Gary is that his next fight should be easier. Molina appears to have been hit a bit, and that's worrisome. And his next fight is against Maharramov, a very experienced Azerbaijani. Maharramov did struggle to get past a guy from Turkmenistan I haven't heard of, but his experience is going to cause problems for Molina.
And I've had a chance to review all the brackets, so here's my uneducated take on them. I'm looking forward to seeing some new names break out and mess up these predictions.
48kg - As mentioned, this draw was terrible for the favorites. The eighth "pod" (the group from which one fighter will qualify for the Olympics) has Bedak, Serdamba, Ayrepetyan, Zhakipov, and Zou. Only one will even qualify for the Olympics, much less go on to medal! That makes the other medal brackets a lot easier. Yanez is, IIRC, the only American to get a bye - he has a great chance to qualify and being in the top half of the bracket gives him his best chance of getting a medal.
51 kg - The top half of this draw is pretty wide open as well. Again it is the bottom medal bracket that is loaded - Warren, Payla, Thomas, and Balakshin. Thomas and Balakshin have to meet in the first round - the Russians got some terrible draws, Warren's is not great - Doniyarov will be tough and Payla would likely stand between him and qualification.
54kg - Again the top is pretty open - great chance for Puerto Rico or the Dom Republic to medal. The second medal bracket is tougher with new Russian Vodopyanov, Russell, and Hallab. Hallab will likely stand in Russell's way for qualification. This bracket is a lot better balanced than the first two.
57kg - Yet again, the top draw is totally open. Raynell Williams has a very tough task to get anywhere in the impossible second bracket, which includes Selimov, Sultanov, Djelkhir, Ospanov, and Zorigtbataar. If Williams beats Djelkhir, which will be very difficult in itself, he would likely have to beat Kazakhstan and Mongolia just to qualify for the Olympics. We'll be seeing him in the continental qualifiers no doubt. There are opportunities for surprises in the lower half of the bracket.
60kg - This time the top draw is not open, because Tishchenko is in it and it also has fighters from South Korea, Thailand, Germany, and Mongolia. Overall, this seems to be a slightly more balanced bracket without a lot of big names. Sadam Ali has a chance. He opens with Jose Pedraza of PR, then would probably have Javakhyan of Armenia, and Bulgaria or the Philippines will probably have the other qualification spot. This time the bottom bracket is probably the easiest with Kim Song Guk of North Korea and Hu Qing of China perhaps the favorites.
64kg - With Boonjumnong shockingly out, everybody has to feel good in the top half of the draw - Sapiyev is maybe the favorite now, and has a very doable route to the semis. If Molina could beat Maharramov he would probably face England's Bradley Saunders for a qualification spot and the winner there would have a good chance to medal. The bottom draw is the bear, with Kovalev, Kate and Georgiev. Again, bad Russian draw, somebody has it in for them.
69kg - Super easy top quarter again - Turkey might steal medals at 57 and 69 thanks to good draws. The second bracket is also pretty easy, so this is a good opportunity for everyone to make the final. And that includes Andrade, who has overall a great draw. Jvania will be a tough first fight, but his second should be easier if he wins, and then he would probably fight Nurudinov to qualify - a guy I'm pretty sure he's beaten before. Andrade has a superb chance to make the final - it's up to him. Balanov has to fight Stretskyy in his opener, another tough draw for Russia, but should cruise after that. Again, the bottom draw is the toughest with fighters from South Korea, Azerbaijan, China, Uzbekistan, Brazil, France and Kazakhstan. Noel and Sarsekbayev is a massive first-round meetup.
75kg - Bakhityar Artayev, the defenidng Val Barker winner, has a pretty easy draw in the top bracket, with only Thailand's Prasinthinphimai looking like a possible road bump. The second bracket is also pretty easy, and Shawn Estrada probably has the best draw of any American. There are fighters from Mexico, France, and Germany who can stop him from qualification - but he couldn't have asked for a much better draw. The third bracket is pretty open, with Rasulov the probable favorite and Korobov should rule the bottom bracket.
81kg - I believe this bracket has the fewest entrants of the weights with 8 qualification places. Artur Beterbiev is in the top bracket with very little in the way to stop him from getting to the final - he could face Josh Garza of the US/Mexico in round 2. The second bracket has no big names and offers opportunity for medals to Iran, Armenia, maybe even Sweden. The bottom half will be competitive with Ireland's Kenneth Egan in with a chance in the third bracket. Christoper Downs got a terrible draw against very tough Ukrainian Ismayl Sillakh and will probably be one and done. Kurbanov is also in the bracket and will be the favorite to meet Sillakh for a medal place.
91kg - With only four qualification places, this will be a dogfight. The top of the draw is stacked with new Russian Chakhiev, Poyatsika, and Alizade. Only one will qualify - tough. The second and fourth brackets are more open. The third includes Deontay Wilder, who will have a tough time against an experienced group. If he beats Zimnoch, he'll probably have Povernov, and it's hard to see him having the experience to win that one. A win there would probably mean a fight with Clemente Russo of Italy, and then another tough opponent to medal and qualify. Hopefully, he'll get some momentum towards the Olympics.
91+kg - Top quarter is totally open - perhaps the Kazakhstani is the favorite, but he is not a big name. The second bracket is a lot tougher with Saidov, Kober, and Ciocan. But the bottom half has the big guns - fortunately, Timurziev and Cammarelle can't meet until the semis. Michael Hunter is in the bracket with Timurziev, and might have a shot to meet him with Ruiz, Gunebakan, and maybe Delavari in his way - all beatable I think. Cammarelle looks strong on the bottom, with Pulev and David Price of England there to challenge.
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I don't think there are any matchups today that preview as well as the Hallab-Dalakliev or Petchkoom-Tipon fights from yesterday.Mattyp151 wrote:Estrada goes this afternoon for the USA and David Price out of England goes in the last bout of the day, those are the two I look forward to.
Raynell Williams is in one of the earliest fights, and he will be an underdog. Israelis have been the punching bags in European competitions, so Estrada looks good. Wilder is perhaps 50-50, based on J's prediction. Hunter's Mexican opponent is a bit of a mystery to me, and did not participate in the Pan Ams. He just turned 18, so who knows how good he might be?
Regarding the draw - unless some boxers were seeded, for any reason (and no where does it state there was any seeding), it should be a random draw with no one being picked on purposely. Random draws can be gnarly!Here's today's scheduleBroncano wrote:Is there a link to the results of the draw or the secheduled fights? Do we even know who's fighting today?
http://www.worldboxingchicago.org/files ... 8D1024.pdf
You can see the whole bracket by going to:
http://www.worldboxingchicago.org/
and then going to results and using the pull down menu.
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