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DeGale warning up in the the dressing room lookin for some ropes to learn on

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:14

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:12 I think joe will be one of those fighters that will prove better than the sum of his parts. Kind of like bellew. Where they look simple to beat from outside. But for me he deserved that gold (a damn sight more than AJ) so he must know a thing or two.

I couldn't disagree more. Joyce is as good as he'll get and it's not very good.

We will see won't we. All opinions.

His workrate, fitness (and maybe chin) will overwhelm most other heavies (outside of the very elite)

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:14

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:12 I think joe will be one of those fighters that will prove better than the sum of his parts. Kind of like bellew. Where they look simple to beat from outside. But for me he deserved that gold (a damn sight more than AJ) so he must know a thing or two.

I couldn't disagree more. Joyce is as good as he'll get and it's not very good.

Joyce is very big, very awkward and he throws a lot of shots. Outside of the top boys he will be difficult to beat.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:14

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:12 I think joe will be one of those fighters that will prove better than the sum of his parts. Kind of like bellew. Where they look simple to beat from outside. But for me he deserved that gold (a damn sight more than AJ) so he must know a thing or two.

I couldn't disagree more. Joyce is as good as he'll get and it's not very good.

We will see won't we. All opinions.

His workrate, fitness (and maybe chin) will overwhelm most other heavies (outside of the very elite)

Anyone who has decent footwork and can punch a bit will beat him. He's too slow and too one-dimensional. Can't rate his chin based on this fight and he's not fought any crackers yet. Oh, and of course, all opinions. Yes.

Is anyone fishing this evening? What's the water like? Any nibbles?

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:21

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:14

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:12 I think joe will be one of those fighters that will prove better than the sum of his parts. Kind of like bellew. Where they look simple to beat from outside. But for me he deserved that gold (a damn sight more than AJ) so he must know a thing or two.

I couldn't disagree more. Joyce is as good as he'll get and it's not very good.

We will see won't we. All opinions.

His workrate, fitness (and maybe chin) will overwhelm most other heavies (outside of the very elite)

Anyone who has decent footwork and can punch a bit will beat him. He's too slow and too one-dimensional. Can't rate his chin based on this fight and he's not fought any crackers yet. Oh, and of course, all opinions. Yes.

I'd actually like to see him in vs hughie fury to see how he'd cope vs a runner. I'm not saying he's a world beater, but I suspect him to be a right spoiler. I could see him throwing decent fighters out of their game plan.

Neil Gee wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:13 If JJ were 23 and 9-0 instead of 33...

Yep issue with being amateur for so long is that trainers don’t really care about explosive power. If he became pro early 20s, he could’ve trained a few years working on that with his style you need that get out of jail card. He’s no Tyson fury, AJ or wilder would run him over

Charr next. Ok for next one

BobD'Mello wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:23 Is anyone fishing this evening? What's the water like? Any nibbles?

In box

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:21

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:14

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:12 I think joe will be one of those fighters that will prove better than the sum of his parts. Kind of like bellew. Where they look simple to beat from outside. But for me he deserved that gold (a damn sight more than AJ) so he must know a thing or two.

I couldn't disagree more. Joyce is as good as he'll get and it's not very good.

We will see won't we. All opinions.

His workrate, fitness (and maybe chin) will overwhelm most other heavies (outside of the very elite)

Anyone who has decent footwork and can punch a bit will beat him. He's too slow and too one-dimensional. Can't rate his chin based on this fight and he's not fought any crackers yet. Oh, and of course, all opinions. Yes.

I'd actually like to see him in vs hughie fury to see how he'd cope vs a runner. I'm not saying he's a world beater, but I suspect him to be a right spoiler. I could see him throwing decent fighters out of their game plan.

Bryant Jennings would be a perfect step up fight for him. Boxer/puncher who's been in with the big boys, but maybe not good enough to give Joyce a tremendous amount of trouble.

Joyce looked awful, but its still probably good enough to be top 10-15. Dont think hes really learning on the job, just doing what he does. Think any fighter with a bit of explosiveness will be his undoing.

Joyce lands most of his best shots straight after taking one; he's almost the epitome of take-one-to-land-one, and that's fine up to a certain level.

And while it's daft to say that anyone who boxes to his standard is too nice for it, he seems to prize shots-landed over less frequent hurtful singles. No bad thing, but in combination with his willingness to let opponents fire at will to create clean paths for his punches in reply, it'll be riskier as he climbs.

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:27

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:21

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:14

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:12 I think joe will be one of those fighters that will prove better than the sum of his parts. Kind of like bellew. Where they look simple to beat from outside. But for me he deserved that gold (a damn sight more than AJ) so he must know a thing or two.

I couldn't disagree more. Joyce is as good as he'll get and it's not very good.

We will see won't we. All opinions.

His workrate, fitness (and maybe chin) will overwhelm most other heavies (outside of the very elite)

Anyone who has decent footwork and can punch a bit will beat him. He's too slow and too one-dimensional. Can't rate his chin based on this fight and he's not fought any crackers yet. Oh, and of course, all opinions. Yes.

I'd actually like to see him in vs hughie fury to see how he'd cope vs a runner. I'm not saying he's a world beater, but I suspect him to be a right spoiler. I could see him throwing decent fighters out of their game plan.

Bryant Jennings would be a perfect step up fight for him. Boxer/puncher who's been in with the big boys, but maybe not good enough to give Joyce a tremendous amount of trouble.

Jennings could be awful for him. Jab and run around all night

While we can give Bernie for taking his lumps, it was still 6 one sided rounds where he did next to nothing.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:14

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:12 I think joe will be one of those fighters that will prove better than the sum of his parts. Kind of like bellew. Where they look simple to beat from outside. But for me he deserved that gold (a damn sight more than AJ) so he must know a thing or two.

I couldn't disagree more. Joyce is as good as he'll get and it's not very good.

We will see won't we. All opinions.

His workrate, fitness (and maybe chin) will overwhelm most other heavies (outside of the very elite)

Joe's definitely one of those "better than he looks" types.
He IS slow, predictable and easy to hit, but it's not like he doesn't have serious good points too.

Can 80% Degale beat Eubank?

Or can a fit athletic Eubank box to orders?

Id like to see him vs that little American that schooled billy nelsons heavy. Forget his name, but he really impressed me. Could be a great little David and Goliath.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:33 Id like to see him vs that little American that schooled billy nelsons heavy. Forget his name, but he really impressed me. Could be a great little David and Goliath.

Hunter, fancy him to beat joyce over 12

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:31

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:27

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:21

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:14

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:12 I think joe will be one of those fighters that will prove better than the sum of his parts. Kind of like bellew. Where they look simple to beat from outside. But for me he deserved that gold (a damn sight more than AJ) so he must know a thing or two.

I couldn't disagree more. Joyce is as good as he'll get and it's not very good.

We will see won't we. All opinions.

His workrate, fitness (and maybe chin) will overwhelm most other heavies (outside of the very elite)

Anyone who has decent footwork and can punch a bit will beat him. He's too slow and too one-dimensional. Can't rate his chin based on this fight and he's not fought any crackers yet. Oh, and of course, all opinions. Yes.

I'd actually like to see him in vs hughie fury to see how he'd cope vs a runner. I'm not saying he's a world beater, but I suspect him to be a right spoiler. I could see him throwing decent fighters out of their game plan.

Bryant Jennings would be a perfect step up fight for him. Boxer/puncher who's been in with the big boys, but maybe not good enough to give Joyce a tremendous amount of trouble.

Jennings could be awful for him. Jab and run around all night

Exactly. Joyce would have to learn to cut off the ring and add some other offensive selections. He needs to be challenged, not keep having walkovers. Otherwise he'll get wrecked at top level, which I already think would happen.

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:27 Bryant Jennings would be a perfect step up fight for him. Boxer/puncher who's been in with the big boys, but maybe not good enough to give Joyce a tremendous amount of trouble.

I would favour Jennings to beat him

Bout time.. let’s get this party started!!

Cmon Eubank!!

hhaehre wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:39

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Feb 2019, 18:27 Bryant Jennings would be a perfect step up fight for him. Boxer/puncher who's been in with the big boys, but maybe not good enough to give Joyce a tremendous amount of trouble.

I would favour Jennings to beat him

Which would put an end to the hyping of this mummy.

For me Eubank V DeGale hinges upon how much DeGale has lost. I have no doubt he's the superior boxer but he looks to be a couple of years passed his best where Eubank is arguably still improving and strong. That's what makes it interesting.

Keep your scores on here - might be close and controversial...

DeGale edges first for me.