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big lennox wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:49 Boxing is a dangerous enough sport as it is. Pitting a non boxer in the ring with a top pro boxer is shocking.

What if the unthinkable happens and Ngannou gets seriously hurt?

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:31

Coco wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:28 Maybe Fury isn't a coward after all, and is just chasing the biggest paydays.

Sometimes it's almost like boxing isn't a sport and it's all about business......

The coward talk is childish.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:35

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:30

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:27

I honestly don’t think it will. The Usyk fight would have been absolutely massive. This is a joke fight which won’t capture the general attention anywhere near as much once the initial novelty has worn off.

You are wrong. The casual mass doesn't care much about the Eastern-European methodical technician. They care more about the freakshows. Mayweather vs McGregor was no less a joke.

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:35

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:30

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:27

I honestly don’t think it will. The Usyk fight would have been absolutely massive. This is a joke fight which won’t capture the general attention anywhere near as much once the initial novelty has worn off.

You are wrong. The casual mass doesn't care much about the Eastern-European methodical technician. They care more about the freakshows. Mayweather vs McGregor was no less a joke.

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 14:51

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:35

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:30

You are wrong. The casual mass doesn't care much about the Eastern-European methodical technician. They care more about the freakshows. Mayweather vs McGregor was no less a joke.

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 14:51

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:35

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:30

You are wrong. The casual mass doesn't care much about the Eastern-European methodical technician. They care more about the freakshows. Mayweather vs McGregor was no less a joke.

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

Roco wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 14:22 FW has somehow managed to change the story to that it is Usyk who is the one ducking and that they tried their best to make the fight and Usyk didn't want it.

Talksport and others don't even bother picking FW up on this and let him get away with it.

Fury is the ducker and he should be stripped. That belt has been tied up long enough.

big lennox wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 12:57

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 12:47 Fury chose money instead of legacy. Everyone here will sh1t on him for this, but the bout will gather more attention than the potential one against Usyk.

True, but I think his legacy and character will take another hit after the Ngannou fight: once the people gullible enough to pay for it have turned in, and realised it was a total mismatch, more questions will be asked why Fury isn't fighting his main competitor.

He will be a very rich man but will also go down as one of the biggest bottle jobs in boxing history. And I think that will haunt him in retirement.

This is massive amount of cowardice on display here by a lot of people. Avoiding ones biggest rival is rum, but putting a non boxer with zero professional boxing fights in with a Heavyweight Champion is diabolical.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 14:51

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:35

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:30

You are wrong. The casual mass doesn't care much about the Eastern-European methodical technician. They care more about the freakshows. Mayweather vs McGregor was no less a joke.

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:06

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 14:51

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 13:35

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

Most yanks dont even know who wilder is.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:09

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:06

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 14:51
The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

Most yanks dont even know who wilder is.

There you go. UFC is pretty big there, though and Tyson has a big mouth.

MasterG wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:21

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:09

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:06
Most yanks dont even know who wilder is.

There you go. UFC is pretty big there, though and Tyson has a big mouth.

Basketball is big in the US too. Darts and fishing are the biggest sports in the UK. It's fornicating ridiculous that a governing body is happy to allow a fight on sales alone. All the YouTube fighters was the start of the end of a gentleman's sport. This fight is allowing it to go viral. It's a mockery on the likes on Mohammed Ali.

handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:37 Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:43

handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:37 Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

He still did it. Pete Rademacher challenged Floyd Patterson on his pro debut, too.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:43

handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:37 Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

He still did it. Pete Rademacher challenged Floyd Patterson on his pro debut, too.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:44

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:43

handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:37 Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

He still did it. Pete Rademacher challenged Floyd Patterson on his pro debut, too.

I’m sure of Fury had a legit boxing match in Spring against ANYONE at least, then there would be less flack..

Now he’s not likely to fight a boxer until at least 2024.

handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:45

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:43

handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:37 Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

He still did it. Pete Rademacher challenged Floyd Patterson on his pro debut, too.

Olympic Gold boxing medalist was Rademacher

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:55

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:57

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 15:55

At least he's getting credit for facing the wrecking ball that is Wilder.