Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

[brilo33]

tyson fury is number 1 ever in my eyes not saying he couldnt lose to any of the top fighters, but if it were a leauge then i would go fury , but if it was a one off than any man could win amongst all the great champs even charles martin

[brilo33]

had him 2/5

[asmund]

Its just a bit sad when you are more or less being called an "idiot" because you disagree with the opinion of the majority in a thread. This seems to be the case either you make a valid point or not here.

Its all hypothetical in this case anyway.

[oogiebe]

Its just a bit sad when you are more or less being called an "idiot" because you disagree with the opinion of the majority in a thread. This seems to be the case either you make a valid point or not here.

Its all hypothetical in this case anyway.

Whom are you referring to Asmund?

[margaret thatcher]

Ya, dudes turn ferocious when you oppose dat conventional wisdom

[brilo33]

Its just a bit sad when you are more or less being called an "idiot" because you disagree with the opinion of the majority in a thread. This seems to be the case either you make a valid point or not here.

Its all hypothetical in this case anyway.

ah you will be alrightmate , been called far worse , and who cares if you belive what you belive stuff em , what was your study? tyson fury is the best ever i hope

[asmund]

8 out of 32.
25% think today's heavy s are better ?
Im losing faith in this site pretty quick.

Those 8 haven't watched any boxing from the 20th century.

For example this...

[asmund]

Its just a bit sad when you are more or less being called an "idiot" because you disagree with the opinion of the majority in a thread. This seems to be the case either you make a valid point or not here.

Its all hypothetical in this case anyway.

ah you will be alrightmate , been called far worse , and who cares if you belive what you belive stuff em , what was your study? tyson fury is the best ever i hope

HAHA! Ill get over it

[oogiebe]

Those 8 haven't watched any boxing from the 20th century.

For example this...

Don't sweat it. A lot of sarcastic passive aggression. Get used to it. Just because you don't know shite about Ali...

[brilo33]

Those 8 haven't watched any boxing from the 20th century.

For example this...

well go to the poll 90s v2000s .
i need the votes

[oogiebe]

For example this...

well go to the poll 90s v2000s .
i need the votes

[brilo33]

haha you have to make your voice heard

[Tony1244]

Those 8 haven't watched any boxing from the 20th century.

For example this...

That wasn't directed at anyone who would pick Fury over Ali. It was directed at whoever said Ali is on the Chisora/Parker level. I'll try to be nicer: that opinion is beyond absurd.

[brilo33]

For example this...

That wasn't directed at anyone who would pick Fury over Ali. It was directed at whoever said Ali is on the Chisora/Parker level. I'll try to be nicer: that opinion is beyond absurd.

ill go further and add haye to that list of absurdity

[oogiebe]

The entire forum would suck if we all agreed.

[oogiebe]

That wasn't directed at anyone who would pick Fury over Ali. It was directed at whoever said Ali is on the Chisora/Parker level. I'll try to be nicer: that opinion is beyond absurd.

ill go further and add haye to that list of absurdity

[asmund]

A young Muhammad Ali got shell-shocked by Cooper in -63, but no heavyweights of today would stand a chance of a -67 version of Ali?

I think we just have to agree that we disagree

[Tony1244]

The entire forum would suck if we all agreed.

That's just a bunch of BS. You're wrong.

[Tony1244]

A young Muhammad Ali got shell-shocked by Cooper in -63, but no heavyweights of today would stand a chance of a -67 version of Ali?

I think we just have to agree that we disagree

Ali did get knocked down when he was still quite young by a very good puncher. He did get up and the torn glove I think was just a few extra seconds.

Ali was way too fast and skilled for Wilder. Fury would have been a tougher nut to crack, but I think he would have eventually cracked it. Ali's skills and hand and foot speed would have made everyone else look silly.

[oogiebe]

The entire forum would suck if we all agreed.

That's just a bunch of BS. You're wrong.

[jas80s]

I think you'll find, It's not the opinion that brings a harsh response, rather it's the way the opinion is conveyed that invites ridicule. People ridicule trolls, not fellow boxing fans who simply hold a different opinion.

[oogiebe]

I think you'll find, It's not the opinion that brings a harsh response, rather it's the way the opinion is conveyed that invites ridicule. People ridicule trolls, not fellow boxing fans who simply hold a different opinion.

very true. See, "EO."

[Bandog]

Ernie Terrell was 6'6", and no slouch. Ali dominated from start to finish. People that say Fury reminds them of Ali makes me laugh. He is nothing like Ali in any way. He looks clumsy, slow, and uncoordinated in comparison. Ali in his prime would beat any current heavy, and embarrass most.

To equal Terrell with Fury is silly.

I didn't say Terrell was equal, I was just giving an example of Ali dominating someone with good skill that is much bigger than he was. Truth be told I don't think Fury would be a problem for someone as slick as Ali was. I am probably one of the few that thinks AJ will KO Fury with an uppercut. Fury stunned himself with his own uppercut a few years back.

[Ambling Alp II]

Truly one of the greats. So elusive.

[Ambling Alp II]

A young Muhammad Ali got shell-shocked by Cooper in -63, but no heavyweights of today would stand a chance of a -67 version of Ali?

I think we just have to agree that we disagree

A. He was not "shell shocked" againt Cooper in 1963.
B. He was better in 1967.
C. That's right, none of the heavyweights in this phenomenal era that we are in would have a chance against Ali.

Take a look at how Fury has fared against far weaker competition when he fought someone close to Ali's size.