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Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:25
by brilo33
another shak rd oscar finding hard to close shak down
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:26
by margaret thatcher
tbh i dont think holding your arm out should even be illegal
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:26
by mcrow24
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:24
jezzamundo wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:21
mcrow24 wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:19
A landed punch that causes the fighter to go down is a knockdown. Whether he hit the gloves or not doesn't matter.
I assumed that was the rule too - beating someone to the canvas with blocked shots should count.
so, let's say dudes throw punches at the same time, one guy clips the others guys extended forearmn with a shot and the guy briefly touches down off balance - should those be ruled as kds then?
Yes, if a fighter puts themselves in a position where they are off-balance enough that a punch to the forearm puts him down that's a knockdown.
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:28
by oogiebe
This is domination.
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:29
by margaret thatcher
shak ripping home those body shots
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:29
by brilo33
looks on another level shak
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:29
by margaret thatcher
wouldnt have given him that 10-8 though
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:30
by jezzamundo
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:24
jezzamundo wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:21
mcrow24 wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:19
A landed punch that causes the fighter to go down is a knockdown. Whether he hit the gloves or not doesn't matter.
I assumed that was the rule too - beating someone to the canvas with blocked shots should count.
so, let's say dudes throw punches at the same time, one guy clips the others guys extended forearmn with a shot and the guy briefly touches down off balance - should those be ruled as kds then?
In that example I would say no.
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:32
by margaret thatcher
shak looking the biz....dont stick around at 130 for long, move up and beat the 'cool' kids at 135
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:33
by brilo33
another good rd shak
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:33
by margaret thatcher
jezzamundo wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:30
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:24
jezzamundo wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:21
I assumed that was the rule too - beating someone to the canvas with blocked shots should count.
so, let's say dudes throw punches at the same time, one guy clips the others guys extended forearmn with a shot and the guy briefly touches down off balance - should those be ruled as kds then?
In that example I would say no.
seems pretty similar to me though. in both cases a shot that doesnt hit a scoring area forces a boxer off balance and to the canvas
oh well, not gonna make a difference here lol
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:34
by brilo33
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:32
shak looking the biz....dont stick around at 130 for long, move up and beat the 'cool' kids at 135
i see a ryan garcia fight
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:35
by margaret thatcher
again, i dont know that holding the arm out should even be illegal . it does open up the guy doing it too
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:36
by margaret thatcher
brilo33 wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:34
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:32
shak looking the biz....dont stick around at 130 for long, move up and beat the 'cool' kids at 135
i see a ryan garcia fight
could be....shak outboxes him

Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:37
by brilo33
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:36
brilo33 wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:34
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:32
shak looking the biz....dont stick around at 130 for long, move up and beat the 'cool' kids at 135
i see a ryan garcia fight
could be....shak outboxes him
maybe but ryan is a class fighter i think he aint no valdez
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:40
by margaret thatcher
whats so impressive about shak too.............a lot of what he does really isnt all that flashy or advanced. good ol 1-1-2, move. 1-2, move. but with his timing and grasp of distance, he totally flumoxes these guys. the body shots and other power dont even start coming in till later
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:40
by oogiebe
not crazy how he finished it, but Shak looked superb.
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:41
by brilo33
great win for shak boxed fantastic , the man to beat
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:42
by brilo33
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 May 2022, 00:40
whats so impressive about shak too.............a lot of what he does really isnt all that flashy or advanced. good ol 1-1-2, move. 1-2, move. but with his timing and grasp of distance, he totally flumoxes these guys. the body shots and other power dont even start coming in till later
thats it tho he looks like he has power in his hands if he sits on his shots but at the monment he is hit and move
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:42
by skanksta
120-107 for me.
P4P performance how easy that looked.
Valdez couldn't do ANYTHING. Shak did his thing AND beat Valdez at his own game too.
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:46
by brilo33
made it look easy
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:48
by gregregegg
Shak was great. Got away with pawing though, if he got a hard warning in round 2 when he should of it could of made it a tougher night for him because he does use it effectivly.
Think shak vs any of the top 135s is quality. If he can unify 130 again then fine, but im not looking for any shak 130 mandatory defences...
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:48
by BROZO
He got polite when he talked about Haney.
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:49
by brilo33
i doubt shak fear anyone he is the best
Re: Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022
Posted: 01 May 2022, 00:49
by margaret thatcher
130 is on the weaker side, he beat clearly the next highest rated fighter. he's so good that i want him to move to 135 straight away, otherwise his road to undisputed is gonna be guys like ogawa........bleh