Shakur Stevenson vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - April 30, 2022

[brilo33]

another shak rd oscar finding hard to close shak down

[margaret thatcher]

tbh i dont think holding your arm out should even be illegal

[mcrow24]

A landed punch that causes the fighter to go down is a knockdown. Whether he hit the gloves or not doesn't matter.

I assumed that was the rule too - beating someone to the canvas with blocked shots should count.

so, let's say dudes throw punches at the same time, one guy clips the others guys extended forearmn with a shot and the guy briefly touches down off balance - should those be ruled as kds then?

Yes, if a fighter puts themselves in a position where they are off-balance enough that a punch to the forearm puts him down that's a knockdown.

[oogiebe]

This is domination.

[margaret thatcher]

shak ripping home those body shots

[brilo33]

looks on another level shak

[margaret thatcher]

wouldnt have given him that 10-8 though

[jezzamundo]

A landed punch that causes the fighter to go down is a knockdown. Whether he hit the gloves or not doesn't matter.

I assumed that was the rule too - beating someone to the canvas with blocked shots should count.

so, let's say dudes throw punches at the same time, one guy clips the others guys extended forearmn with a shot and the guy briefly touches down off balance - should those be ruled as kds then?

In that example I would say no.

[margaret thatcher]

shak looking the biz....dont stick around at 130 for long, move up and beat the 'cool' kids at 135

[brilo33]

another good rd shak

[margaret thatcher]

I assumed that was the rule too - beating someone to the canvas with blocked shots should count.

so, let's say dudes throw punches at the same time, one guy clips the others guys extended forearmn with a shot and the guy briefly touches down off balance - should those be ruled as kds then?

In that example I would say no.

seems pretty similar to me though. in both cases a shot that doesnt hit a scoring area forces a boxer off balance and to the canvas

oh well, not gonna make a difference here lol

[brilo33]

shak looking the biz....dont stick around at 130 for long, move up and beat the 'cool' kids at 135

i see a ryan garcia fight

[margaret thatcher]

again, i dont know that holding the arm out should even be illegal . it does open up the guy doing it too

[margaret thatcher]

shak looking the biz....dont stick around at 130 for long, move up and beat the 'cool' kids at 135

i see a ryan garcia fight

could be....shak outboxes him

[brilo33]

shak looking the biz....dont stick around at 130 for long, move up and beat the 'cool' kids at 135

i see a ryan garcia fight

could be....shak outboxes him

maybe but ryan is a class fighter i think he aint no valdez

[margaret thatcher]

whats so impressive about shak too.............a lot of what he does really isnt all that flashy or advanced. good ol 1-1-2, move. 1-2, move. but with his timing and grasp of distance, he totally flumoxes these guys. the body shots and other power dont even start coming in till later

[oogiebe]

not crazy how he finished it, but Shak looked superb.

[brilo33]

great win for shak boxed fantastic , the man to beat

[brilo33]

whats so impressive about shak too.............a lot of what he does really isnt all that flashy or advanced. good ol 1-1-2, move. 1-2, move. but with his timing and grasp of distance, he totally flumoxes these guys. the body shots and other power dont even start coming in till later

thats it tho he looks like he has power in his hands if he sits on his shots but at the monment he is hit and move

[skanksta]

120-107 for me.

P4P performance how easy that looked.
Valdez couldn't do ANYTHING. Shak did his thing AND beat Valdez at his own game too.

[brilo33]

made it look easy

[gregregegg]

Shak was great. Got away with pawing though, if he got a hard warning in round 2 when he should of it could of made it a tougher night for him because he does use it effectivly.

Think shak vs any of the top 135s is quality. If he can unify 130 again then fine, but im not looking for any shak 130 mandatory defences...

[BROZO]

He got polite when he talked about Haney.

[brilo33]

i doubt shak fear anyone he is the best

[margaret thatcher]

130 is on the weaker side, he beat clearly the next highest rated fighter. he's so good that i want him to move to 135 straight away, otherwise his road to undisputed is gonna be guys like ogawa........bleh