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gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 20:58

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 17:16

Cyclops wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 16:56
How easy it is to forget these things. Yes, I remember this fight where Dubois was on the rebuild after Joyce and got his brain scrambled here. People eventually put it down to Dubois putting his ankle out or something, didn't they? I was never sold on that.

After Dubois beat AJ, plenty of people here were trying to anoint him number two in the division just behind Usyk, over Fury, which seemed crazy to me as the Lerena fight where Dubois looked awful was much fresher in my mind. For some reason I had Lerena as the cruiserweight who gave Parker a hard time after Joyce. But looking at the records, that was Jack Massey wasn't it?

I really took my eye off the ball with boxing for a few years. Certainly at a lower level.

People love to try to discredit Tyson. He was ready for the knackers yard after losing a split to Usyk apparently... Yet they rate Usyk as an all time great. It doesn't even make sense.

While I agree that fury shouldent of got as discarded as second class for his losses to usyk. The “split” though was pretty definitive, just like AJs “split”…. But I think it’s fury’s biggest achievement honestly.

Conversely, fury’s rise was beating a 39 year old who never won again… and then retired/served a doping ban…

Then his second rise was against wilder who honestly nearly no Brit’s rated and the trilogy only got hyped up because wilder vs fury 1 was close (which dosent actualy say wilder was good… it might well just say both were poor)…

Had fury just delt with wilder easily the first fight it actualy would have diminished fury’s legacey… fury getting knocked down in the 12th while clearly a career low light is somehow actualy Tyson fury’s defining moment which has lead to him being peoples universal number 2 even though he is retired and hasn’t beat a boxer in 2.5 years… go figure.

So I agree the “he is done” after losing to usyk is harsh. But That view is also very kind to him suggesting he was much much better at some other point in his career, even though there is little proof of that.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jun 2025, 04:52 Fight week!!

mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jun 2025, 02:54

gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 20:58

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 17:16
People love to try to discredit Tyson. He was ready for the knackers yard after losing a split to Usyk apparently... Yet they rate Usyk as an all time great. It doesn't even make sense.

While I agree that fury shouldent of got as discarded as second class for his losses to usyk. The “split” though was pretty definitive, just like AJs “split”…. But I think it’s fury’s biggest achievement honestly.

Conversely, fury’s rise was beating a 39 year old who never won again… and then retired/served a doping ban…

Then his second rise was against wilder who honestly nearly no Brit’s rated and the trilogy only got hyped up because wilder vs fury 1 was close (which dosent actualy say wilder was good… it might well just say both were poor)…

Had fury just delt with wilder easily the first fight it actualy would have diminished fury’s legacey… fury getting knocked down in the 12th while clearly a career low light is somehow actualy Tyson fury’s defining moment which has lead to him being peoples universal number 2 even though he is retired and hasn’t beat a boxer in 2.5 years… go figure.

So I agree the “he is done” after losing to usyk is harsh. But That view is also very kind to him suggesting he was much much better at some other point in his career, even though there is little proof of that.

I didn't have it as a split either but, the first fight was very competitive. I was disappointed in the second fight, to be honest. I thought Greg Marriot's interview a couple of weeks ago on the subject was very interesting.

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑02 Jun 2025, 08:10 Justis by KO.

Time to derail the hype train. Wardley once barely scraped a draw against Fraser the Eraser, so it's not all that. Derail the hype train now and nip him in the bud.

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑02 Jun 2025, 11:42 Undercard is absolutely gash. Can't complain about the main event.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 07:35 A genuine Manchester United fan.

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 12:04 https://fightsatw.com/heavyweight-justi ... challenge/

jameswilson wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 18:03 Justice for Justis.

I'm claiming copyright on this one.

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 02:11 Boxing news preview says it’s a “strong undercard”. Ensuring they now have great ringside seats

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 19:03

jameswilson wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 18:03 Justice for Justis.

I'm claiming copyright on this one.

Nice…. If huni does get robbed it probably means it’s been a hell of a fight.

chinarich wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 05:25 Looks like Dillian Whyte has pulled out of his fight against the fearsome TBA…

jameswilson wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 05:57

chinarich wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 05:25 Looks like Dillian Whyte has pulled out of his fight against the fearsome TBA…

Maybe he will get out in Argos.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 06:09

jameswilson wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 05:57

chinarich wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 05:25 Looks like Dillian Whyte has pulled out of his fight against the fearsome TBA…

Maybe he will get out in Argos.

Massive fight lined up.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 06:09

jameswilson wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 05:57

chinarich wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 05:25 Looks like Dillian Whyte has pulled out of his fight against the fearsome TBA…

Maybe he will get out in Argos.

Massive fight lined up.