Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

Op

V. Klitschko
8
12%
Lewis
12
18%
80s Tyson
9
14%
Joshua
7
11%
Ali
22
34%
Usyk (if the extra weight makes him even better)
7
11%
 
Total votes: 65

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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Enlightened-One wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 14:10
oogiebe wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 13:51
Enlightened-One wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 13:48
WTF! :o This is such a fûckîng stupid question that I’m sincerely shocked that people have taken this thread seriously. :o

Excellent trolling my man! :TU:
I was wondering when you'd show up EO! :TU:
I initially chose to ignore this thread, due to the utterly absurd nature of the topic being discussed, but after realising that it had received 151 replies, I decided to congratulate the troll who created it. :lol:
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Jacopodb wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 13:53
getnada wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 11:27
Loki wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 10:58
I rest my case. Vitali was the dominant HW of from 2003 to 2012, with his brother. He deserves to be in the HOF.
I agree 100%, Vitali is one of the best heavyweights in history.
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Gave great Lennox Lewis' the time of his life, if not else.
Vitaly did what tyson and holyfield couldnt.

Tyson won maybe 1 rd and was schooled, i exoected more from (i know he was far from his prime but yet still he shouldve dine more). Holyfield was well trained in perfect shape and couldnt do nothing, rarly won a 1 single round. The judging was a farce. Vitaly was winning rounds in dominant fashion. Vitaly wss taller had similar reach better chin was simply tall and strong and mentality tough and lennox couldnt deal with that. Out of his breath, bloody nose. Close to prime holyfield was never close to doing such damage.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:32
Jacopodb wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 13:53
getnada wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 11:27
I agree 100%, Vitali is one of the best heavyweights in history.
Quote and subscribe. As awkward as they come, but tough as nails...

Gave great Lennox Lewis' the time of his life, if not else.
Vitaly did what tyson and holyfield couldnt.

Tyson won maybe 1 rd and was schooled, i exoected more from (i know he was far from his prime but yet still he shouldve dine more). Holyfield was well trained in perfect shape and couldnt do nothing, rarly won a 1 single round. The judging was a farce. Vitaly was winning rounds in dominant fashion. Vitaly wss taller had similar reach better chin was simply tall and strong and mentality tough and lennox couldnt deal with that. Out of his breath, bloody nose. Close to prime holyfield was never close to doing such damage.
Holyfield won more rounds against Lennox in the 2nd fight than Vitali won against Lewis, and he wasn't stopped by Lennox. He was past his best by the time he fought Lennox, Vitali was absolutely prime against a not prime Lewis, and he still couldn't win.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:34
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:32
Jacopodb wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 13:53

Quote and subscribe. As awkward as they come, but tough as nails...

Gave great Lennox Lewis' the time of his life, if not else.
Vitaly did what tyson and holyfield couldnt.

Tyson won maybe 1 rd and was schooled, i exoected more from (i know he was far from his prime but yet still he shouldve dine more). Holyfield was well trained in perfect shape and couldnt do nothing, rarly won a 1 single round. The judging was a farce. Vitaly was winning rounds in dominant fashion. Vitaly wss taller had similar reach better chin was simply tall and strong and mentality tough and lennox couldnt deal with that. Out of his breath, bloody nose. Close to prime holyfield was never close to doing such damage.
Holyfield won more rounds against Lennox in the 2nd fight than Vitali won against Lewis, and he wasn't stopped by Lennox. He was past his best by the time he fought Lennox, Vitali was absolutely prime against a not prime Lewis, and he still couldn't win.
Vitaly won more rds in 6 than holyfield did in 12.

Vitaly wasnt stopped. He wanted to continue, his stamina was still good, leading on points. Lewis was rubbing his gloves and even his cornraw hairs into vitalys face, to open more cuts, such illegal tactics should normaly result in points deduction even dq. Lewis was out if his breath and lucky the ref didnt let vitaly continue. Holyfield wasnt far from his prime, he was in tip top shape. Prime holyfield lost to bowe (who was inferior to lewis, bowe knew, why than the trash drama). Holyfield simply not on lewis or vitalys level. To much height and weight difference
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:45
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:34
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:32

Vitaly did what tyson and holyfield couldnt.

Tyson won maybe 1 rd and was schooled, i exoected more from (i know he was far from his prime but yet still he shouldve dine more). Holyfield was well trained in perfect shape and couldnt do nothing, rarly won a 1 single round. The judging was a farce. Vitaly was winning rounds in dominant fashion. Vitaly wss taller had similar reach better chin was simply tall and strong and mentality tough and lennox couldnt deal with that. Out of his breath, bloody nose. Close to prime holyfield was never close to doing such damage.
Holyfield won more rounds against Lennox in the 2nd fight than Vitali won against Lewis, and he wasn't stopped by Lennox. He was past his best by the time he fought Lennox, Vitali was absolutely prime against a not prime Lewis, and he still couldn't win.
Vitaly won more rds in 6 than holyfield did in 12.

Vitaly wasnt stopped. He wanted to continue, his stamina was still good, leading on points. Lewis was rubbing his gloves and even his cornraw hairs into vitalys face, to open more cuts, such illegal tactics should normaly result in points deduction even dq. Lewis was out if his breath and lucky the ref didnt let vitaly continue. Holyfield wasnt far from his prime, he was in tip top shape. Prime holyfield lost to bowe (who was inferior to lewis, bowe knew, why than the trash drama). Holyfield simply not on lewis or vitalys level. To much height and weight difference
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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candyslim wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 12:51
tiny_acres wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 10:26
ewenhay wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 05:41

I think you are indeed the worst troll ever
I disagree. He is not a troll he believes what he posts. So not a troll just a fuggin idiot.
Now the author of this topic is a troll
That is an important distinction. People said Luis Fernando was a troll but I say definitely not. Can't even call him an idiot as he doesn't lack for intelligence. His judgement-compass is seriously fukced though I don't know what term covers that.
and posts like this are why I like you
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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tiny_acres wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 16:00
candyslim wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 12:51
tiny_acres wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 10:26

I disagree. He is not a troll he believes what he posts. So not a troll just a fuggin idiot.
Now the author of this topic is a troll
That is an important distinction. People said Luis Fernando was a troll but I say definitely not. Can't even call him an idiot as he doesn't lack for intelligence. His judgement-compass is seriously fukced though I don't know what term covers that.
and posts like this are why I like you
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Aw shucks guys :oops:
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:45
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:34
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:32

Vitaly did what tyson and holyfield couldnt.

Tyson won maybe 1 rd and was schooled, i exoected more from (i know he was far from his prime but yet still he shouldve dine more). Holyfield was well trained in perfect shape and couldnt do nothing, rarly won a 1 single round. The judging was a farce. Vitaly was winning rounds in dominant fashion. Vitaly wss taller had similar reach better chin was simply tall and strong and mentality tough and lennox couldnt deal with that. Out of his breath, bloody nose. Close to prime holyfield was never close to doing such damage.
Holyfield won more rounds against Lennox in the 2nd fight than Vitali won against Lewis, and he wasn't stopped by Lennox. He was past his best by the time he fought Lennox, Vitali was absolutely prime against a not prime Lewis, and he still couldn't win.
Vitaly won more rds in 6 than holyfield did in 12.

Vitaly wasnt stopped. He wanted to continue, his stamina was still good, leading on points. Lewis was rubbing his gloves and even his cornraw hairs into vitalys face, to open more cuts, such illegal tactics should normaly result in points deduction even dq. Lewis was out if his breath and lucky the ref didnt let vitaly continue. Holyfield wasnt far from his prime, he was in tip top shape. Prime holyfield lost to bowe (who was inferior to lewis, bowe knew, why than the trash drama). Holyfield simply not on lewis or vitalys level. To much height and weight difference
Whether he "wanted to continue" or not doesn't matter. He didn't make it the distance because he was cut the f*ck up, and lost. He was stopped.

Punches cut him.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Every heavyweight thread ends up with the "Vitali was winning" stuff.

You can win 11 rounds but if you get stopped in the twelfth it matters not one bit to the result
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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ewenhay wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 16:31 Every heavyweight thread ends up with the "Vitali was winning" stuff.

You can win 11 rounds but if you get stopped in the twelfth it matters not one bit to the result
Besides the truth of the matter is that Lewis was coming on from the prior round through the time of the stoppage. Vitaly was a replacement for I think Kirk Johnson. Lewis didn't train very hard for Johnson, and his hubris in taking on Vitali almost backfired on him. At the time, a proper in shape Lewis would have handled the older Klitchko much more handily.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 16:25
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:45
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:34

Holyfield won more rounds against Lennox in the 2nd fight than Vitali won against Lewis, and he wasn't stopped by Lennox. He was past his best by the time he fought Lennox, Vitali was absolutely prime against a not prime Lewis, and he still couldn't win.
Vitaly won more rds in 6 than holyfield did in 12.

Vitaly wasnt stopped. He wanted to continue, his stamina was still good, leading on points. Lewis was rubbing his gloves and even his cornraw hairs into vitalys face, to open more cuts, such illegal tactics should normaly result in points deduction even dq. Lewis was out if his breath and lucky the ref didnt let vitaly continue. Holyfield wasnt far from his prime, he was in tip top shape. Prime holyfield lost to bowe (who was inferior to lewis, bowe knew, why than the trash drama). Holyfield simply not on lewis or vitalys level. To much height and weight difference
Whether he "wanted to continue" or not doesn't matter. He didn't make it the distance because he was cut the f*ck up, and lost. He was stopped.

Punches cut him.
Winning on points. Wouldve won. Was the better man. Punches cut but illegal tactics like rubbing your gloves head inside the cuts made it this bad
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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...as long as the stoppage was legit and I thought it WAS, everything else was/is irrelevant...I also had that feeling that Lewis was slowly but surely taking it over in the later rounds leading to a stoppage but that again is irrelevant...Vitali did a great job, that was probably one of his best fights but that loss was not controversial imo..
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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I tend to think that if all the great heavyweights had a lengthy round robin tournament where they all fought each other repeatedly, Lennox Lewis would come out on top. The most rounded blend of skill, size and intelligence.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Quantrax wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:21 I tend to think that if all the great heavyweights had a lengthy round robin tournament where they all fought each other repeatedly, Lennox Lewis would come out on top. The most rounded blend of skill, size and intelligence.
100% :TU:
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:09
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 16:25
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:45

Vitaly won more rds in 6 than holyfield did in 12.

Vitaly wasnt stopped. He wanted to continue, his stamina was still good, leading on points. Lewis was rubbing his gloves and even his cornraw hairs into vitalys face, to open more cuts, such illegal tactics should normaly result in points deduction even dq. Lewis was out if his breath and lucky the ref didnt let vitaly continue. Holyfield wasnt far from his prime, he was in tip top shape. Prime holyfield lost to bowe (who was inferior to lewis, bowe knew, why than the trash drama). Holyfield simply not on lewis or vitalys level. To much height and weight difference
Whether he "wanted to continue" or not doesn't matter. He didn't make it the distance because he was cut the f*ck up, and lost. He was stopped.

Punches cut him.
Winning on points. Wouldve won. Was the better man. Punches cut but illegal tactics like rubbing your gloves head inside the cuts made it this bad
Welcome back Kalan.
I guarantee it's him
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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tiny_acres wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:22
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:09
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 16:25

Whether he "wanted to continue" or not doesn't matter. He didn't make it the distance because he was cut the f*ck up, and lost. He was stopped.

Punches cut him.
Winning on points. Wouldve won. Was the better man. Punches cut but illegal tactics like rubbing your gloves head inside the cuts made it this bad
Welcome back Kalan.
I guarantee it's him
You think? Doesn't he seem like he's 12 or something? Kalan had a bit of a flair, while this bloke is just plain stupid.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:09
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 16:25
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 15:45

Vitaly won more rds in 6 than holyfield did in 12.

Vitaly wasnt stopped. He wanted to continue, his stamina was still good, leading on points. Lewis was rubbing his gloves and even his cornraw hairs into vitalys face, to open more cuts, such illegal tactics should normaly result in points deduction even dq. Lewis was out if his breath and lucky the ref didnt let vitaly continue. Holyfield wasnt far from his prime, he was in tip top shape. Prime holyfield lost to bowe (who was inferior to lewis, bowe knew, why than the trash drama). Holyfield simply not on lewis or vitalys level. To much height and weight difference
Whether he "wanted to continue" or not doesn't matter. He didn't make it the distance because he was cut the f*ck up, and lost. He was stopped.

Punches cut him.
Winning on points. Wouldve won. Was the better man. Punches cut but illegal tactics like rubbing your gloves head inside the cuts made it this bad
You're that asshole Kalan ain't ya?
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

Post by oogiebe »

gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:24
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:09
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 16:25

Whether he "wanted to continue" or not doesn't matter. He didn't make it the distance because he was cut the f*ck up, and lost. He was stopped.

Punches cut him.
Winning on points. Wouldve won. Was the better man. Punches cut but illegal tactics like rubbing your gloves head inside the cuts made it this bad
You're that asshole Kalan ain't ya?
Hmmm...we got some drama on the board!!!! :box:
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

Post by gilgamesh »

oogiebe wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:25
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:24
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:09

Winning on points. Wouldve won. Was the better man. Punches cut but illegal tactics like rubbing your gloves head inside the cuts made it this bad
You're that asshole Kalan ain't ya?
Hmmm...we got some drama on the board!!!! :box:
I'm pretty sure he's Kalan, and if so he's about to be gone.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

Post by tiny_acres »

gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:24
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:09
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 16:25

Whether he "wanted to continue" or not doesn't matter. He didn't make it the distance because he was cut the f*ck up, and lost. He was stopped.

Punches cut him.
Winning on points. Wouldve won. Was the better man. Punches cut but illegal tactics like rubbing your gloves head inside the cuts made it this bad
You're that asshole Kalan ain't ya?
I fuggin guarantee it.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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No he’s that idiot jip. Punchsb called it. You’re conversing with a dimwit.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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tiny_acres wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:26
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:24
Wuuupa wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:09

Winning on points. Wouldve won. Was the better man. Punches cut but illegal tactics like rubbing your gloves head inside the cuts made it this bad
You're that asshole Kalan ain't ya?
I fuggin guarantee it.
and Getnada is assfukt.
you ban them and they just comeback
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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Well...whether he's Kalan or just some new douche that acts exactly like Kalan, it's too Kalan-esque for my taste, so I'm gonna call him Kalan, and show him the door.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever

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gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 17:29 Well...whether he's Kalan or just some new douche that acts exactly like Kalan, it's too Kalan-esque for my taste, so I'm gonna call him Kalan, and show him the door.
Wuuupa da doopah!
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