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Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 08:17
by TheLeprechaun
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 04:53
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 04:49
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 03:48
BigDoofus wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 02:43
RKY wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 22:16
Just watched round 6 in isolation.
Anyone who thinks Fitzgerald won round 6 really needs to go and find another hobby. The punchline was at the end of the round Froch says in his commentary "Fitzgerald is just busier", despite throwing and more importantly landing next to nothing.
If you keep whinging on here, do you think the decision might get reversed?
Yes.
He probably just wants people to agree with him. That might make him happy.
Probably not - although I'd prefer better quality posters on here. Very few folk post much in the way of substance with regards to scoring. Like i said before I'll happily rewatch and rescore any round in isolation.
What would your prediction be if Fowler fought Canelo or GGG, just curious?
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 08:50
by Ruthless-RKO
On
Eye on the Ring, the fight has a 13% controversy rating.
Only 8 scorecards have been posted on here though. Not a lot..
All scored rd 6 for Fitz
..
Average scorecard from the site.
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Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
AF 10 9.87 10 9 9.87 9 9.25 9 9.87 8
SF 9 9.25 9 10 9.12 10 9.75 10 9.12 10
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 09:08
by rio
Even Hearn said Fitz won the fight. Says it all really.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 09:11
by Ruthless-RKO
On an app called
FightScore.. 140 users scored the bout.. much more than 8..
Rd 6.. only 9 of those 140 scored it for Fowler. 4 had it even and 127 had t for Fitz
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Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Fowler 10 10 10 9 10 9 9 9 10 8
Fitz 9 9 9 10 9 10 10 10 9 10
That's the agerage scorecard -
96-94 for Fitz.. Proving Fitz ONLY won the bout on most cards due to the 10-8 round.
Accept it. Fowler was ahead.. He blew it last round.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 09:32
by Boxerbeetle
rio wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 09:08
Even Hearn said Fitz won the fight. Says it all really.
Hearn said Fitzgerald won...Coldwell said Fitzgerald won...Even Fowler said Fitzgerald won.
But somehow Ricky is still confident that Fowler won
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 10:03
by Ricky
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 08:50
On
Eye on the Ring, the fight has a 13% controversy rating.
Only 8 scorecards have been posted on here though. Not a lot..
All scored rd 6 for Fitz
..
Average scorecard from the site.
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Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
AF 10 9.87 10 9 9.87 9 9.25 9 9.87 8
SF 9 9.25 9 10 9.12 10 9.75 10 9.12 10
Bizarre stuff really. Fowler gets a 9.75 for r9 which was verygng on a 10-8 round? Most users gave Fitz r6 which was a clear Fowler round?
I think r4 & 7 were probably close enough to give to Fitzy, then ofcourse the 10-8 at the end closes the score up a bit, but a clear win for Fowler.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 10:49
by mickey1975
My son was in isolation at school today. Wonder if he watched it.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 11:01
by Ruthless-RKO
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 10:03
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 08:50
On
Eye on the Ring, the fight has a 13% controversy rating.
Only 8 scorecards have been posted on here though. Not a lot..
All scored rd 6 for Fitz
..
Average scorecard from the site.
Code: Select all
Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
AF 10 9.87 10 9 9.87 9 9.25 9 9.87 8
SF 9 9.25 9 10 9.12 10 9.75 10 9.12 10
Bizarre stuff really. Fowler gets a 9.75 for r9 which was verygng on a 10-8 round? Most users gave Fitz r6 which was a clear Fowler round?
That was just 8 users..
The other table I posted was from 140 users..
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 11:38
by Ricky
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 11:01
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 10:03
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 08:50
On
Eye on the Ring, the fight has a 13% controversy rating.
Only 8 scorecards have been posted on here though. Not a lot..
All scored rd 6 for Fitz
..
Average scorecard from the site.
Code: Select all
Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
AF 10 9.87 10 9 9.87 9 9.25 9 9.87 8
SF 9 9.25 9 10 9.12 10 9.75 10 9.12 10
Bizarre stuff really. Fowler gets a 9.75 for r9 which was verygng on a 10-8 round? Most users gave Fitz r6 which was a clear Fowler round?
That was just 8 users..
The other table I posted was from 140 users..
In all honesty, I'm past caring about this fight now. The wider problem is folk that score rounds based on what they hear in commentary as oppose to what they see in the ring. Round 6 in this fight is a great example, Fowler clearly won the round but the narrative from Smith & Froch was that there was a turning tide - hence why your aggregate shows 10-9 in favour of the wrong guy.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 12:44
by Boxerbeetle
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 11:38
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 11:01
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 10:03
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 08:50
On
Eye on the Ring, the fight has a 13% controversy rating.
Only 8 scorecards have been posted on here though. Not a lot..
All scored rd 6 for Fitz
..
Average scorecard from the site.
Code: Select all
Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
AF 10 9.87 10 9 9.87 9 9.25 9 9.87 8
SF 9 9.25 9 10 9.12 10 9.75 10 9.12 10
Bizarre stuff really. Fowler gets a 9.75 for r9 which was verygng on a 10-8 round? Most users gave Fitz r6 which was a clear Fowler round?
That was just 8 users..
The other table I posted was from 140 users..
In all honesty, I'm past caring about this fight now. The wider problem is folk that score rounds based on what they hear in commentary as oppose to what they see in the ring. Round 6 in this fight is a great example, Fowler clearly won the round but the narrative from Smith & Froch was that there was a turning tide - hence why your aggregate shows 10-9 in favour of the wrong guy.
So why did Fowler say he lost? Was he listening to Smith & Froch as well?
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 12:50
by Ricky
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 12:44
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 11:38
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 11:01
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 10:03
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 08:50
On
Eye on the Ring, the fight has a 13% controversy rating.
Only 8 scorecards have been posted on here though. Not a lot..
All scored rd 6 for Fitz
..
Average scorecard from the site.
Code: Select all
Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
AF 10 9.87 10 9 9.87 9 9.25 9 9.87 8
SF 9 9.25 9 10 9.12 10 9.75 10 9.12 10
Bizarre stuff really. Fowler gets a 9.75 for r9 which was verygng on a 10-8 round? Most users gave Fitz r6 which was a clear Fowler round?
That was just 8 users..
The other table I posted was from 140 users..
In all honesty, I'm past caring about this fight now. The wider problem is folk that score rounds based on what they hear in commentary as oppose to what they see in the ring. Round 6 in this fight is a great example, Fowler clearly won the round but the narrative from Smith & Froch was that there was a turning tide - hence why your aggregate shows 10-9 in favour of the wrong guy.
So why did Fowler say he lost? Was he listening to Smith & Froch as well?
What difference does that make? So he decided to be dignified about it, doesn't change how the mid-rounds were scored, does it? Bitching afterwards rarely plays well from a PR persepcctive, it lost Marquez alot of fans. David Haye became an international joke given how he reacted to his losses.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 12:58
by Ruthless-RKO
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 12:50
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 12:44
So why did Fowler say he lost? Was he listening to Smith & Froch as well?
What difference does that make? So he decided to be dignified about it, doesn't change how the mid-rounds were scored, does it? Bitching afterwards rarely plays well from a PR persepcctive, it lost Marquez alot of fans. David Haye became an international joke given how he reacted to his losses.
What if everyone that scored it, without any sound?
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 13:09
by Ricky
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 12:58
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 12:50
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 12:44
So why did Fowler say he lost? Was he listening to Smith & Froch as well?
What difference does that make? So he decided to be dignified about it, doesn't change how the mid-rounds were scored, does it? Bitching afterwards rarely plays well from a PR persepcctive, it lost Marquez alot of fans. David Haye became an international joke given how he reacted to his losses.
What if everyone that scored it, without any sound?
Then fair enough but I'd like to hear the justification for a guy winning the round in which he threw less, landed less, and got hit with the most eye-catching shots too.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 15:03
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 12:58
RKY wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 12:50
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 12:44
So why did Fowler say he lost? Was he listening to Smith & Froch as well?
What difference does that make? So he decided to be dignified about it, doesn't change how the mid-rounds were scored, does it? Bitching afterwards rarely plays well from a PR persepcctive, it lost Marquez alot of fans. David Haye became an international joke given how he reacted to his losses.
What if everyone that scored it, without any sound?
You can't score a fight without sound.
How can you tell if the shot was a powerful one without the "thwack!"
And you can mostly tell by the sound if it hits glove or skin.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 17:11
by Ruthless-RKO
KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 15:03
You can't score a fight without sound.
How can you tell if the shot was a powerful one without the "thwack!"
And you can mostly tell by the sound if it hits glove or skin.
Not really.. not always. Some boxers add their own sound effects anyway when throwing shots.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 17:17
by jamamb
KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 15:03
You can't score a fight without sound.
How can you tell if the shot was a powerful one without the "thwack!"
And you can mostly tell by the sound if it hits glove or skin.
depends, a lot of the time the sound on tv doesnt give that good of an idea, and a blocked shot can give of pretty 'impressive' sound too
i think the most accurate way to judge a fight would be with only the fight sounds, but that is next to impossible. i think sound off is the next best.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 03 Apr 2019, 09:09
by PredatorHayds
I had Fitzgerald winning the fight by one point.
Really close fight for me with the knockdown being the deciding factor.
Re: Anthony Fowler vs. Scott Fitzgerald - 30 March 2019
Posted: 03 Apr 2019, 09:11
by oogiebe
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑03 Apr 2019, 09:09
I had Fitzgerald winning the fight by one point.
Really close fight for me with the knockdown being the deciding factor.
Exactly as I saw it. Fowler by one going into final round.