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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 14:21
by margaret thatcher
tony yoka also went from 6'5 for years to 6'7 suddenly when he turned pro lol
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 14:27
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 14:21
tony yoka also went from 6'5 for years to 6'7 suddenly when he turned pro lol
Oh yeah, I do remember from the Olympics to when I saw him as a pro and they said 6'7" and I thought they might have got the cm to inches stuffed up. He ain't 6'7".
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 15:22
by gregregegg
Was it ever reported how many buys there first fight did? cant see it anywhere...
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 15:30
by KiwiRider
gregregegg wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:22
Was it ever reported how many buys there first fight did? cant see it anywhere...
No, I don't think they released them.
Both guys were in for a 50% share of the ppv take.
That ended up being £5 mil apparently
I can't find out any more and don't know how to work out the numbers from that, but I'm sure someone can makeca guess. It did do well in NZ, so I read locally, but again, no actual numbers.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 15:41
by JamesPhilips
gregregegg wrote: ↑15 Dec 2021, 19:39
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑15 Dec 2021, 17:10
gregregegg wrote: ↑15 Dec 2021, 15:16
Claiming Parker and chisora arnt names is just a childish lie. You can say you dont think they are good but they are defiantly names.
Lol imagine pretending Chisora and Parker are ‘big names’
Parker and chisora are in the top 1% highest paid boxers over the last decade. Mabey the top 0.1%… you don’t get that kind of cash for not being a name (especially if you have a ton of loses like chisora.)
Lol go round your local pub and ask who knows these guys.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 15:50
by Ricky
Don't see point in this fight. In fact, I don't see the point in Chisora fighting full stop tbh, he's a gatekeeper that seems to think he's box office.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 15:59
by KiwiRider
Ricky wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:50
Don't see point in this fight. In fact, I don't see the point in Chisora fighting full stop tbh, he's a gatekeeper that seems to think he's box office.
Last time:
Del earned 2.5 plus his share of the ppv take which is around £5mil.
Anyone outside of AJ and Whyte making that sort of money in the UK?
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 16:03
by Ricky
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:59
Ricky wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:50
Don't see point in this fight. In fact, I don't see the point in Chisora fighting full stop tbh, he's a gatekeeper that seems to think he's box office.
Last time:
Del earned 2.5 plus his share of the ppv take which is around £5mil.
Anyone outside of AJ and Whyte making that sort of money in the UK?
Fair enough, Del is entertaining and has a fan base, but really not sure why anyone would fork out for this. We already seen it, Parker won and it was rather forgettable. Del is 38 this month too, he's on the slide and racking up the defeats. Outside of the coin matchroom seem to whip up for him, what exactly is the point? The guy eats so many shots too, has had some brutals KOs, he'll end up damaged.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 16:04
by mickey1975
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:59
Ricky wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:50
Don't see point in this fight. In fact, I don't see the point in Chisora fighting full stop tbh, he's a gatekeeper that seems to think he's box office.
Last time:
Del earned 2.5 plus his share of the ppv take which is around £5mil.
Anyone outside of AJ and Whyte making that sort of money in the UK?
Khan will for Brook. Fury for anyone.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 16:31
by KiwiRider
mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 16:04
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:59
Ricky wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:50
Don't see point in this fight. In fact, I don't see the point in Chisora fighting full stop tbh, he's a gatekeeper that seems to think he's box office.
Last time:
Del earned 2.5 plus his share of the ppv take which is around £5mil.
Anyone outside of AJ and Whyte making that sort of money in the UK?
Khan will for Brook. Fury for anyone.
True, I forgot about those two. As for Fury, sure he would, but will he fight again in the UK? Maybe for Whyte if he fights again. I just don't know about him though. He has the potential to have a real legacy, and also to do what he did after Klitchko.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 16:57
by Pukka Cheese
Ricky wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:50
Don't see point in this fight. In fact, I don't see the point in Chisora fighting full stop tbh, he's a gatekeeper that seems to think he's box office.
I like Chisora. Will watch this and i think he will probs lose then fight a Joyce or Dubois next year. Would watch that too.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 19:09
by peter barlow
Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 16:57
Ricky wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:50
Don't see point in this fight. In fact, I don't see the point in Chisora fighting full stop tbh, he's a gatekeeper that seems to think he's box office.
I like Chisora. Will watch this and i think he will probs lose then fight a Joyce or Dubois next year. Would watch that too.
Agree can imagine him being a Joyce opponent. Hughie Fury either.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 20:14
by ironbeard
Ricky wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 16:03
KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:59
Ricky wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:50
Don't see point in this fight. In fact, I don't see the point in Chisora fighting full stop tbh, he's a gatekeeper that seems to think he's box office.
Last time:
Del earned 2.5 plus his share of the ppv take which is around £5mil.
Anyone outside of AJ and Whyte making that sort of money in the UK?
Fair enough, Del is entertaining and has a fan base, but really not sure why anyone would fork out for this. We already seen it, Parker won and it was rather forgettable. Del is 38 this month too, he's on the slide and racking up the defeats. Outside of the coin matchroom seem to whip up for him, what exactly is the point? The guy eats so many shots too, has had some brutals KOs, he'll end up damaged.
I agree that it would be best for his health if he hung ‘em up. He’s still dangerous for anyone below the top 10 though, and he is the best earning gatekeeper out there; maybe the best of all time.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 20:24
by tiny_acres
Chisora holds his own with pretty much anyone. But he losses the important fights.
Tough as hell and entertaining. But he is the highest paid gatekeeper in history. Nothing to be ashamed of but it is what it is
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 20:36
by gregregegg
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:41
gregregegg wrote: ↑15 Dec 2021, 19:39
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑15 Dec 2021, 17:10
Lol imagine pretending Chisora and Parker are ‘big names’
Parker and chisora are in the top 1% highest paid boxers over the last decade. Mabey the top 0.1%… you don’t get that kind of cash for not being a name (especially if you have a ton of loses like chisora.)
Lol go round your local pub and ask who knows these guys.
Mate no one at my local pub knows who fury or AJ are. But if you wanna belive that a guy with 10 losses and no world title ever makes 5 million+ a fight based on not having a name then you can belive that…. Might be the dumbest thing you ever chose to belive.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 20:44
by ironbeard
gregregegg wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 20:36
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:41
gregregegg wrote: ↑15 Dec 2021, 19:39
Parker and chisora are in the top 1% highest paid boxers over the last decade. Mabey the top 0.1%… you don’t get that kind of cash for not being a name (especially if you have a ton of loses like chisora.)
Lol go round your local pub and ask who knows these guys.
Mate no one at my local pub knows who fury or AJ are. But if you wanna belive that a guy with 10 losses and no world title ever makes 5 million+ a fight based on not having a name then you can belive that…. Might be the dumbest thing you ever chose to belive.
![[icon_shame.gif] :shame:](./images/smilies/icon_shame.gif)
I have demonstrative evidence that it is not the dumbest thing he has ever chosen to believe in.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 00:35
by mickey1975
gregregegg wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 20:36
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:41
gregregegg wrote: ↑15 Dec 2021, 19:39
Parker and chisora are in the top 1% highest paid boxers over the last decade. Mabey the top 0.1%… you don’t get that kind of cash for not being a name (especially if you have a ton of loses like chisora.)
Lol go round your local pub and ask who knows these guys.
Mate no one at my local pub knows who fury or AJ are. But if you wanna belive that a guy with 10 losses and no world title ever makes 5 million+ a fight based on not having a name then you can belive that…. Might be the dumbest thing you ever chose to belive.
I guess you're not British?
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 08:07
by margaret thatcher
parker has never convincingly beat a decent fighter, and del doesnt seem to get breaks on the decisions, im guessing joe will edge this one again
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 08:11
by forcefraser
There is a decent argument that Del beat Hellanius, Whyte 1, and Parker. The second 2 could have gone either way and the 1st was a robbery.
Some thought he beat Usyk (not me)
Del has proven his worth
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 08:19
by IRONFIST
Chizza has given great value on the whole, yes there have been some stinkers along the way but he's a credit to the sport. I would say Chizza should probably hang up the gloves soon but the blighter is likely to get himself into more trouble outside of boxing, so probably best he stays in it in some form or other.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 12:12
by cormack
Ricky wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 15:50
Don't see point in this fight. In fact, I don't see the point in Chisora fighting full stop tbh, he's a gatekeeper that seems to think he's box office.
this
chisora is a total prat with a head full of weird notions .
please retire
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 12:14
by cormack
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 08:07
parker has never convincingly beat a decent fighter, and del doesnt seem to get breaks on the decisions, im guessing joe will edge this one again
he beat andy ruiz tbf
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 12:14
by margaret thatcher
sure, he scrapped by with that one
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 12:20
by mickey1975
Parker looks fleshy. Must be going Kronk style.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021
Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 12:33
by Dioufy
Cullen and the French guy. Both in their natural divisions; has there every been a bigger height difference at super middle involving a British fighter?