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Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 17 May 2022, 06:43
by Twinkle Toes
I've had it from the day it started, but if they try and fob off another Benn mismatch it's going, and i'll hop in and out when I see fit.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 17 May 2022, 07:34
by garethhop
mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 06:34
I don't think Matchroom were big on early hours PPV's.
You're right Mickey.
They tried to do Khan/Canelo on regular Sky for example. Not a chance that they would have tried BJS or Callum Smith as early morning PPVs.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 17 May 2022, 07:56
by maverick23
garethhop wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 07:34
mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 06:34
I don't think Matchroom were big on early hours PPV's.
You're right Mickey.
They tried to do Khan/Canelo on regular Sky for example. Not a chance that they would have tried BJS or Callum Smith as early morning PPVs.
Khan/Canelo was on allegedly. I can’t remember if they also had it on BT too.
I’m pretty sure they would have done Canelo/Billy Joe as PPV on Sky. Clearly wouldn’t have done huge numbers but Canelo’s a bigger name now than he was when he fought Khan.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 17 May 2022, 07:57
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 07:56
garethhop wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 07:34
mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 06:34
I don't think Matchroom were big on early hours PPV's.
You're right Mickey.
They tried to do Khan/Canelo on regular Sky for example. Not a chance that they would have tried BJS or Callum Smith as early morning PPVs.
Khan/Canelo was on allegedly. I can’t remember if they also had it on BT too.
I’m pretty sure they would have done Canelo/Billy Joe as PPV on Sky. Clearly wouldn’t have done huge numbers but Canelo’s a bigger name now than he was when he fought Khan.
No it was BNATION only
I remember they even did the live weigh in on the channel at 10pm the night before.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 17 May 2022, 08:44
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 06:34
I don't think Matchroom were big on early hours PPV's.
They’re not because they’re much harder sells. That’s not to say they wouldn’t do them though. Canelo/Billy Joe is the only fight on DAZN so far where some of my casual fan mates have asked about DAZN and in a couple of cases they subscribed to it for that fight.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 17 May 2022, 15:56
by daz74
Hearn today talking about the value he places on owning all the production, not just boxing. This is code, he’s bringing the Darts over to DAZN ….
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 17 May 2022, 17:47
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 08:44
mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 06:34
I don't think Matchroom were big on early hours PPV's.
They’re not because they’re much harder sells. That’s not to say they wouldn’t do them though. Canelo/Billy Joe is the only fight on DAZN so far where some of my casual fan mates have asked about DAZN and in a couple of cases they subscribed to it for that fight.
It was £1.99 at the time. Can’t complain.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 18 May 2022, 03:53
by garethhop
daz74 wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 15:56
Hearn today talking about the value he places on owning all the production, not just boxing. This is code, he’s bringing the Darts over to DAZN ….
In 2025?
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 18 May 2022, 04:03
by maverick23
garethhop wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 03:53
daz74 wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 15:56
Hearn today talking about the value he places on owning all the production, not just boxing. This is code, he’s bringing the Darts over to DAZN ….
In 2025?
I can understand him wanting to have more control on shoulder programming/production for boxing. Some of the stuff they have on YouTube (that not many people watch) in the build up/fight night is great but I can’t see anywhere near the same need for darts as it’s broadly the same people every week/tournament.
Whether the darts moves in 2025 I’m not sure but whoever gets them will likely be paying a hell of a lot more than they’re paying now as the cost will likely currently be comparatively small for something like the world champs compared to the amount of viewers/hours of coverage it gets.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 18 May 2022, 04:43
by garethhop
maverick23 wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 04:03
garethhop wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 03:53
daz74 wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 15:56
Hearn today talking about the value he places on owning all the production, not just boxing. This is code, he’s bringing the Darts over to DAZN ….
In 2025?
I can understand him wanting to have more control on shoulder programming/production for boxing. Some of the stuff they have on YouTube (that not many people watch) in the build up/fight night is great
Less than 10k views on Youtube in the last week for the Richards/Buatsi face off is a good indicator.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 18 May 2022, 05:47
by tony1234
Darts is a sport to go to, I doubt darts for 2 weeks a year and 12 UK boxing shows is going to make DAZN a profit
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 18 May 2022, 06:16
by maverick23
tony1234 wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 05:47
Darts is a sport to go to, I doubt darts for 2 weeks a year and 12 UK boxing shows is going to make DAZN a profit
The 2 weeks is the world champs and gets some of Sky’s best viewing figures. They have loads of other tournaments throughout the year and have the premier league that covers something like 16 weeks.
I’d be surprised if it leaves Sky but having DAZN around will mean they can likely leverage a fair bit more for it.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 18 May 2022, 07:17
by garethhop
maverick23 wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 06:16
tony1234 wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 05:47
Darts is a sport to go to, I doubt darts for 2 weeks a year and 12 UK boxing shows is going to make DAZN a profit
The 2 weeks is the world champs and gets some of Sky’s best viewing figures. They have loads of other tournaments throughout the year and have the premier league that covers something like 16 weeks.
I’d be surprised if it leaves Sky but having DAZN around will mean they can likely leverage a fair bit more for it.
I think the sports market will move on significantly in the next 24 months as COVID disappears in the back mirror and the Cost of Living crisis appears bang in front.
Lord knows who the main players will be in 2024. A lot going on.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 18 May 2022, 19:28
by daz74
garethhop wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 07:17
maverick23 wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 06:16
tony1234 wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 05:47
Darts is a sport to go to, I doubt darts for 2 weeks a year and 12 UK boxing shows is going to make DAZN a profit
The 2 weeks is the world champs and gets some of Sky’s best viewing figures. They have loads of other tournaments throughout the year and have the premier league that covers something like 16 weeks.
I’d be surprised if it leaves Sky but having DAZN around will mean they can likely leverage a fair bit more for it.
I think the sports market will move on significantly in the next 24 months as COVID disappears in the back mirror and the Cost of Living crisis appears bang in front.
Lord knows who the main players will be in 2024. A lot going on.
DAZN already show PDC Darts outside of the UK. Hearn’s beef with Sky regarding coverage, or lack of coverage by Sky Sports News of the Taylor v Serrano fight, was him rehearsing the argument that he’ll continue when DAZN are on the Sky platform. The DAZN analogue deal will come with the clause that Sky Sports help promote the Sky DAZN output.
Win win win.
Matchroom get their production freedom and continued DAZN investment
DAZN get their brand profile raised ahead of the next round of football procurement rights
Sky are fully armoured up ready for going toe to toe with Warner Discovery
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 19 May 2022, 02:39
by garethhop
daz74 wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 19:28
garethhop wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 07:17
maverick23 wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 06:16
The 2 weeks is the world champs and gets some of Sky’s best viewing figures. They have loads of other tournaments throughout the year and have the premier league that covers something like 16 weeks.
I’d be surprised if it leaves Sky but having DAZN around will mean they can likely leverage a fair bit more for it.
I think the sports market will move on significantly in the next 24 months as COVID disappears in the back mirror and the Cost of Living crisis appears bang in front.
Lord knows who the main players will be in 2024. A lot going on.
DAZN already show PDC Darts outside of the UK. Hearn’s beef with Sky regarding coverage, or lack of coverage by Sky Sports News of the Taylor v Serrano fight, was him rehearsing the argument that he’ll continue when DAZN are on the Sky platform. The DAZN analogue deal will come with the clause that Sky Sports help promote the Sky DAZN output.
Win win win.
Matchroom get their production freedom and continued DAZN investment
DAZN get their brand profile raised ahead of the next round of football procurement rights
Sky are fully armoured up ready for going toe to toe with Warner Discovery
We've all had a drink.
Re: DAZN to buy BT Sport.
Posted: 19 May 2022, 03:54
by maverick23
daz74 wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 19:28
garethhop wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 07:17
maverick23 wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 06:16
The 2 weeks is the world champs and gets some of Sky’s best viewing figures. They have loads of other tournaments throughout the year and have the premier league that covers something like 16 weeks.
I’d be surprised if it leaves Sky but having DAZN around will mean they can likely leverage a fair bit more for it.
I think the sports market will move on significantly in the next 24 months as COVID disappears in the back mirror and the Cost of Living crisis appears bang in front.
Lord knows who the main players will be in 2024. A lot going on.
DAZN already show PDC Darts outside of the UK. Hearn’s beef with Sky regarding coverage, or lack of coverage by Sky Sports News of the Taylor v Serrano fight, was him rehearsing the argument that he’ll continue when DAZN are on the Sky platform. The DAZN analogue deal will come with the clause that Sky Sports help promote the Sky DAZN output.
Win win win.
Matchroom get their production freedom and continued DAZN investment
DAZN get their brand profile raised ahead of the next round of football procurement rights
Sky are fully armoured up ready for going toe to toe with Warner Discovery
What makes you think DAZN are so keen to get a linear channel? Have they done that in the other markets they’ve actually spent heavily in (Italy, Japan etc)? If that was their business MO then it’s quite easy to get a TV channel sorted and live.