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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 12:41
by tony1234
Dioufy wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 12:33 Cullen and the French guy. Both in their natural divisions; has there every been a bigger height difference at super middle involving a British fighter?
The French guy wears glasses, will he take them off during the fight or is it game changed ?

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 13:00
by garethhop
Hearn on the radio earlier saying the vaccine requirement/negative test requirement has affected ticket sales.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 13:18
by JamesPhilips
gregregegg wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 20:36
JamesPhilips wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:41
gregregegg wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 19:39

Parker and chisora are in the top 1% highest paid boxers over the last decade. Mabey the top 0.1%… you don’t get that kind of cash for not being a name (especially if you have a ton of loses like chisora.)
Lol go round your local pub and ask who knows these guys.
Mate no one at my local pub knows who fury or AJ are. But if you wanna belive that a guy with 10 losses and no world title ever makes 5 million+ a fight based on not having a name then you can belive that…. Might be the dumbest thing you ever chose to belive.
Where do you live? Pitcairn Island? Every young male I know knows who AJ and Fury are.

Anyway onto this fight - will the weight difference be positive or negative for Parker?

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 14:41
by margaret thatcher
garethhop wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 13:00 Hearn on the radio earlier saying the vaccine requirement/negative test requirement has affected ticket sales.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
tbh, wouldnt surprise me if a lot of the boxing crowd are anti vax / pandemic mandates, etc. sure as hell are plenty of boxers like that

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 15:33
by tony1234
garethhop wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 13:00 Hearn on the radio earlier saying the vaccine requirement/negative test requirement has affected ticket sales.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Depends on the venue insisting on the NHS app and/or a covid test result. As it's a large venue if you don't have them then you won't be getting in

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 15:49
by mickey1975
tony1234 wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 15:33
garethhop wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 13:00 Hearn on the radio earlier saying the vaccine requirement/negative test requirement has affected ticket sales.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Depends on the venue insisting on the NHS app and/or a covid test result. As it's a large venue if you don't have them then you won't be getting in
I was at one and the amount of people trying to get online crashed the server. They just let everyone in.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 16:20
by ThereByTheGrace
Ricky wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:50 Don't see point in this fight. In fact, I don't see the point in Chisora fighting full stop tbh, he's a gatekeeper that seems to think he's box office.
Agreed purely in boxing terms but there's far less deserving folk out there that get that credential too.

He takes his beatings and comes back. He's a great sportsman

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 16:46
by gregregegg
Parker very heavy, chizzy very light. would of liked parker to be 240, but i guess he wants to hold his feet and not get bullied.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 16:59
by JamesPhilips
gregregegg wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 16:46 Parker very heavy, chizzy very light. would of liked parker to be 240, but i guess he wants to hold his feet and not get bullied.
What’s your prediction?

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 18:09
by gregregegg
JamesPhilips wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 16:59
gregregegg wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 16:46 Parker very heavy, chizzy very light. would of liked parker to be 240, but i guess he wants to hold his feet and not get bullied.
What’s your prediction?
befor seeing the weights i though parker stops him.
-basicaly just surviving the first 3 or 4 (still might win em but under pressure).
-beats him fairly clear for most of the next 6 or 7 (needs to create distance and hit him with his jab, chis will obviously walk through it and get to the inside, but if parker can at least land when he is on his way in that puts him in a better spot for the inside work).
- then stops him in about the 10th round.

I basicaly see it as the same with the extra weight, just a few questionmarks on whether that will make parker stronger inside and therefor gass slower cause he is getting less manhandled, or make him gass quicker because he is carrying extra weight.

[Disclaimer] this is how i saw the first fight going and wasnt correct there. Shows my lack of mental flexability that i wont change even after seeing 12 rounds and different weights...

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 22:13
by brilo33
i think parker points, if parker loses this fight he is finished , i know he has had a lot of dodgy clouds over his head parker out side the ring , seems to be over, parker is good enough and strong enough to box del boy , jab one 2 hold move thats all he has to do, del boy has had some what of an indina summer iam sure he will fly in to battle with joesph and go 12 rds if allowed, parker shouldnt be losing this fight , he is in good shape i would look to counter del boy and move if parker aint in shape he will lose

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 17 Dec 2021, 22:26
by KiwiRider
Del has had a bit of a twinkle in his eye at the presser and weigh in.
He might really give it a good try this time. He came so close last time, maybe a point or two, he just has the physical look of s guy who trained to win.
I agree with Brillo. Any slip up, lack of stamina from Parker and he loses.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 18 Dec 2021, 01:00
by KiwiRider
Anyone see David Nyika at the weigh in?
6'5" and ripped! :box:
Not a bodybuilder build like AJ, mor like Wilder.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 18 Dec 2021, 05:08
by Dioufy
Pattinson off the bill. Shame for him, and me as I’m going, as even though his opponent had a shite record he was in great shape and more rarely seen… the same size.
No way Pattinson is a welter btw.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 18 Dec 2021, 10:33
by JamesPhilips
This is on normal DAZN right? Not PPV?

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 18 Dec 2021, 10:43
by Ruthless-RKO
JamesPhilips wrote: 18 Dec 2021, 10:33 This is on normal DAZN right? Not PPV?
Yes. Normal

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 18 Dec 2021, 10:47
by JamesPhilips
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Dec 2021, 10:43
JamesPhilips wrote: 18 Dec 2021, 10:33 This is on normal DAZN right? Not PPV?
Yes. Normal
Oh cool. I hadn’t been paying attention. I actually thought this was on Sky Box Office lol
That pleases me and now I’m a lot less hard on the bill :lol:

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 18 Dec 2021, 15:38
by JamesPhilips
gregregegg wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 18:09
JamesPhilips wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 16:59
gregregegg wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 16:46 Parker very heavy, chizzy very light. would of liked parker to be 240, but i guess he wants to hold his feet and not get bullied.
What’s your prediction?
befor seeing the weights i though parker stops him.
-basicaly just surviving the first 3 or 4 (still might win em but under pressure).
-beats him fairly clear for most of the next 6 or 7 (needs to create distance and hit him with his jab, chis will obviously walk through it and get to the inside, but if parker can at least land when he is on his way in that puts him in a better spot for the inside work).
- then stops him in about the 10th round.

I basicaly see it as the same with the extra weight, just a few questionmarks on whether that will make parker stronger inside and therefor gass slower cause he is getting less manhandled, or make him gass quicker because he is carrying extra weight.

[Disclaimer] this is how i saw the first fight going and wasnt correct there. Shows my lack of mental flexability that i wont change even after seeing 12 rounds and different weights...
The weight is the X factor? Positive or negative for Parker?

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 18 Dec 2021, 15:45
by gregregegg
JamesPhilips wrote: 18 Dec 2021, 15:38
gregregegg wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 18:09
JamesPhilips wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 16:59

What’s your prediction?
befor seeing the weights i though parker stops him.
-basicaly just surviving the first 3 or 4 (still might win em but under pressure).
-beats him fairly clear for most of the next 6 or 7 (needs to create distance and hit him with his jab, chis will obviously walk through it and get to the inside, but if parker can at least land when he is on his way in that puts him in a better spot for the inside work).
- then stops him in about the 10th round.

I basicaly see it as the same with the extra weight, just a few questionmarks on whether that will make parker stronger inside and therefor gass slower cause he is getting less manhandled, or make him gass quicker because he is carrying extra weight.

[Disclaimer] this is how i saw the first fight going and wasnt correct there. Shows my lack of mental flexability that i wont change even after seeing 12 rounds and different weights...
The weight is the X factor? Positive or negative for Parker?
I think parkers weight is a slight negative. dont know what to think about chisoras. But i think having being in england for a big chunk of time training in a big time gym, having access to good sparing (i assume) is the bigger story. So while i think the weight is a negative, i also expect parker to win better.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 18 Dec 2021, 17:04
by mickey1975
He's been sparring undefeated cruiserweight Sonny Taylor from Hull and Kash Ali a lot.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 18 Dec 2021, 19:07
by garethhop
garethhop wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 03:42 Going to stick my neck out, and whilst there is absolutely zero on this card of interest, I think the Parker/Chisora fight may just turn out to be a bit of a war, more than anything because there is so little on it i.e. The winner doesn't go anywhere in terms of world title, we've already done this once, and say 'last chance' all you like, the loser remains a top 10/15 heavyweight who will be able to get fights as they represent a 'name' without being a massive risk.
One of the first times I’ve ever been right…

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 07:24
by Dioufy
Good night and good card. Got a pic with Gypsy John, Thor and Anthony Fowler.

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 07:24
by Dioufy
How the fornicate do you post pics on here?

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 08:21
by handsofstone
The Cullen KO was a bit of a shocker,he looked to be in control behind the jab putting his shots together well, Sadjo was bull like, strong aggressive, looked dangerous with the overhand right, caught Cullen a few times with it which he took well tbf but out of nowhere Sadjo creased with a crunching right to the ribs, Cullen clearly distressed, even when he dragged himself up he still looked fvcked

Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 08:49
by DrDuke
Chisora wanted a more convincing beating and he received it. Although Derek showed some toughness, he kept trying even after he had overcome troubles. But maybe it's just Parker who lacked a killer instinct.