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Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 09:26
by Twinkle Toes
I wouldn't bet against Fury, the way he shut out Wlad was very impressive. It was not the most exciting fight, but proved Fury can adapt and make a fight his own if needed.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 12:49
by dragons
I would like AJ to win...If Fury get back to his best???
AJ wouldn't get near him.

Would lose on a wide points decision.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 13:34
by Boxerbeetle
dragons wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 12:49 I would like AJ to win...If Fury get back to his best???
AJ wouldn't get near him.

Would lose on a wide points decision.
Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 13:35
by Oiky
dragons wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 12:49 I would like AJ to win...If Fury get back to his best???
AJ wouldn't get near him.

Would lose on a wide points decision.
Agree AJ wouldlnt get near him :TU:

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 13:44
by dirk2686
Boxerbeetle wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:34
dragons wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 12:49 I would like AJ to win...If Fury get back to his best???
AJ wouldn't get near him.

Would lose on a wide points decision.
Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.

Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 13:50
by gilgamesh
dirk2686 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:44
Boxerbeetle wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:34
dragons wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 12:49 I would like AJ to win...If Fury get back to his best???
AJ wouldn't get near him.

Would lose on a wide points decision.
Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.

Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
Which I would assume means he landed 3 or 4 punches in each round to Wlad's 1 or 0?

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 14:00
by mickey1975
dirk2686 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:44
Boxerbeetle wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:34
dragons wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 12:49 I would like AJ to win...If Fury get back to his best???
AJ wouldn't get near him.

Would lose on a wide points decision.
Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.

Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 14:03
by gilgamesh
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 14:00

AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!
He never took a shot like that from Wlad. Wlad might've thrown a shot that powerful once or twice in the entire fight vs Fury.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 14:04
by gilgamesh
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 14:00

AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!
He never took a shot like that from Wlad. Wlad might've thrown a shot that powerful once or twice in the entire fight vs Fury.

The moment when Fury was hanging in the corner with his arms outstretched on the ropes is the ultimate proof of my stance that Wlad didn't fight that night. Fury is standing there with his arms spread apart. Chin up in the air. Wlad just looks at him...doesn't throw a punch.

He wasn't fighting. Anybody can beat a guy that's not fighting.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 14:08
by Noxy
dirk2686 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:44
Boxerbeetle wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:34
dragons wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 12:49 I would like AJ to win...If Fury get back to his best???
AJ wouldn't get near him.

Would lose on a wide points decision.
Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.

Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
It wasn’t just about shots landed though. Fury controlled the pace of the bout as well. The action happened when Fury wanted it.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 14:09
by mickey1975
Wlad didn't have a clue.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 14:11
by mickey1975
gilgamesh wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 14:04
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 14:00

AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!
He never took a shot like that from Wlad. Wlad might've thrown a shot that powerful once or twice in the entire fight vs Fury.

The moment when Fury was hanging in the corner with his arms outstretched on the ropes is the ultimate proof of my stance that Wlad didn't fight that night. Fury is standing there with his arms spread apart. Chin up in the air. Wlad just looks at him...doesn't throw a punch.

He wasn't fighting. Anybody can beat a guy that's not fighting.
Yes, easy... Should have got yourself over then, made a few quid and beat the long time undefeated, undisputed champ, wish I'd have thought of it.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 14:16
by gilgamesh
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 14:11

Yes, easy... Should have got yourself over then, made a few quid and beat the long time undefeated, undisputed champ, wish I'd have thought of it.
Fury knew he was the luckiest man in the world to be in there with a Wlad that I can only assume must've been sick or something. That's why he avoided the rematch like the plague, and has become a fat sh*t. He knows he's a fraud, and defending his title would prove it to the guys like you swinging from his balls.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 15:15
by dragons
dirk2686 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:44
Boxerbeetle wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:34
dragons wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 12:49 I would like AJ to win...If Fury get back to his best???
AJ wouldn't get near him.

Would lose on a wide points decision.
Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.

Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
Don't get me wrong...I like AJ as a person. But for me the Tyson who best Wlad with absolute ease, would beat Joshua all day long. AJ runs out of gas after 5 Rounds and lets be honest here. Wlad should have finished AJ when he had him down/ almost out in that fight. Tyson is too quick and awkward for Joshua. The only way he could win ...Is by KO. No way can he outbox Fury he doesnt have the agiliy or speed. Just hope he proves me wrong in 2018.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 15:20
by Oiky
Tyson definitely beats AJ to say "Wlad just didn't throw a punch" and that's the only reason he lost is comical😂 Wlad was clueless , he didn't know what ever to do with Tyson & he couldlnt even begin to think about timing him for a counter or anything as Tyson was so unorthodox he just didn't know where to start

Tyson beats AJ on a landslide points win or gets him out of there by bodyshot as AJ starts to huff & puff

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 15:33
by dragons
Oiky wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 15:20 Tyson definitely beats AJ to say "Wlad just didn't throw a punch" and that's the only reason he lost is comical😂 Wlad was clueless , he didn't know what ever to do with Tyson & he couldlnt even begin to think about timing him for a counter or anything as Tyson was so unorthodox he just didn't know where to start

Tyson beats AJ on a landslide points win or gets him out of there by bodyshot as AJ starts to huff & puff
Yep ! I couldn't agree more. It wouldn't even be a competive fight . Fury v Wilder would be better in my opinon.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 17:25
by Stuarty
I lie AJ as a fighter. I'm not a hater and I look forward to his fights etc... I'm a bit of a Fury fanboy though. I think if they do meet then AJ will eventually get to Tyson and stop him but I would want Tyson to win. If it does happen then I hope Tyson can get himself in good shape and have a good warm up win beforehand.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 17:29
by Nightmare Roy
gilgamesh wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 14:03
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 14:00

AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!
He never took a shot like that from Wlad. Wlad might've thrown a shot that powerful once or twice in the entire fight vs Fury.
That shot would have put Fury down or any other HW, don't think Vlad even landed a decent punch on Fury, it was an awful fight, that said I think a fit Fury could give AJ a world of problems.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 17:45
by dirk2686
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 14:00
dirk2686 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:44
Boxerbeetle wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:34

Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.

Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!
Clearly you were still drinking when Fury fought Wlad.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 18:06
by samwbr
dragons wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 15:33
Oiky wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 15:20 Tyson definitely beats AJ to say "Wlad just didn't throw a punch" and that's the only reason he lost is comical😂 Wlad was clueless , he didn't know what ever to do with Tyson & he couldlnt even begin to think about timing him for a counter or anything as Tyson was so unorthodox he just didn't know where to start

Tyson beats AJ on a landslide points win or gets him out of there by bodyshot as AJ starts to huff & puff
Yep ! I couldn't agree more. It wouldn't even be a competive fight . Fury v Wilder would be better in my opinon.
Not even competitive :lol:

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 19:22
by Ossyrules
54% for fury at the time of my vote

So English, put a guy on a pedestal to be a superstar, then knock him down in any way

Let’s vote for the Coke head, with a failed peds test, homophobic, sexist, moron

Anyone with a brain cell should want Joshua to win

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 19:23
by mickey1975
dirk2686 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 17:45
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 14:00
dirk2686 wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 13:44

Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.

Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!
Clearly you were still drinking when Fury fought Wlad.
No, not at all.

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 19:28
by Ossyrules
Oiky wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 15:20 Tyson definitely beats AJ to say "Wlad just didn't throw a punch" and that's the only reason he lost is comical😂 Wlad was clueless , he didn't know what ever to do with Tyson & he couldlnt even begin to think about timing him for a counter or anything as Tyson was so unorthodox he just didn't know where to start

Tyson beats AJ on a landslide points win or gets him out of there by bodyshot as AJ starts to huff & puff
I agree with part of this. The bit where you say saying Wlad just didn’t throw any punches, it’s hugely nit giving fury the credit for being a difficult target to set up

The bit to say fury definitely beats Joshua is funny tough. Based on there careers and his power I don’t think anyone can say anyone definitely beats Joshua.

I’d be amazed if fury did get Joshua out of there with a body shot. That’s not fury’s game at all

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 21:10
by Oiky
Ossyrules wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 19:28
Oiky wrote: 15 Nov 2017, 15:20 Tyson definitely beats AJ to say "Wlad just didn't throw a punch" and that's the only reason he lost is comical😂 Wlad was clueless , he didn't know what ever to do with Tyson & he couldlnt even begin to think about timing him for a counter or anything as Tyson was so unorthodox he just didn't know where to start

Tyson beats AJ on a landslide points win or gets him out of there by bodyshot as AJ starts to huff & puff
I agree with part of this. The bit where you say saying Wlad just didn’t throw any punches, it’s hugely nit giving fury the credit for being a difficult target to set up

The bit to say fury definitely beats Joshua is funny tough. Based on there careers and his power I don’t think anyone can say anyone definitely beats Joshua.

I’d be amazed if fury did get Joshua out of there with a body shot. That’s not fury’s game at all
I never said Wlad didn't throw a punch. I'm quoting the people that do say it..

joshua is far more powerful than fury but Tyson is by far the better boxer. I will always believe Tyson would out box AJ & ud him comfortably

It's not his game no but the way AJ blows at times I think fury would see it as a perfect opportunity

Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 21:20
by jamamb
fury used to work the body well until he decided to become a jab, move, and feint safety first machine. can only see him using that risk reduction approach vs a banger like joshua.