Re: Who DO YOU WANT to win? AJ vs Fury
Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 09:26
I wouldn't bet against Fury, the way he shut out Wlad was very impressive. It was not the most exciting fight, but proved Fury can adapt and make a fight his own if needed.
Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:34Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Which I would assume means he landed 3 or 4 punches in each round to Wlad's 1 or 0?dirk2686 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:44Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:34Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!dirk2686 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:44Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:34Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
He never took a shot like that from Wlad. Wlad might've thrown a shot that powerful once or twice in the entire fight vs Fury.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:00
AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!
He never took a shot like that from Wlad. Wlad might've thrown a shot that powerful once or twice in the entire fight vs Fury.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:00
AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!
It wasn’t just about shots landed though. Fury controlled the pace of the bout as well. The action happened when Fury wanted it.dirk2686 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:44Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:34Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
Yes, easy... Should have got yourself over then, made a few quid and beat the long time undefeated, undisputed champ, wish I'd have thought of it.gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:04He never took a shot like that from Wlad. Wlad might've thrown a shot that powerful once or twice in the entire fight vs Fury.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:00
AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!
The moment when Fury was hanging in the corner with his arms outstretched on the ropes is the ultimate proof of my stance that Wlad didn't fight that night. Fury is standing there with his arms spread apart. Chin up in the air. Wlad just looks at him...doesn't throw a punch.
He wasn't fighting. Anybody can beat a guy that's not fighting.
Fury knew he was the luckiest man in the world to be in there with a Wlad that I can only assume must've been sick or something. That's why he avoided the rematch like the plague, and has become a fat sh*t. He knows he's a fraud, and defending his title would prove it to the guys like you swinging from his balls.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:11
Yes, easy... Should have got yourself over then, made a few quid and beat the long time undefeated, undisputed champ, wish I'd have thought of it.
Don't get me wrong...I like AJ as a person. But for me the Tyson who best Wlad with absolute ease, would beat Joshua all day long. AJ runs out of gas after 5 Rounds and lets be honest here. Wlad should have finished AJ when he had him down/ almost out in that fight. Tyson is too quick and awkward for Joshua. The only way he could win ...Is by KO. No way can he outbox Fury he doesnt have the agiliy or speed. Just hope he proves me wrong in 2018.dirk2686 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:44Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:34Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
Yep ! I couldn't agree more. It wouldn't even be a competive fight . Fury v Wilder would be better in my opinon.Oiky wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 15:20 Tyson definitely beats AJ to say "Wlad just didn't throw a punch" and that's the only reason he lost is comicalWlad was clueless , he didn't know what ever to do with Tyson & he couldlnt even begin to think about timing him for a counter or anything as Tyson was so unorthodox he just didn't know where to start
Tyson beats AJ on a landslide points win or gets him out of there by bodyshot as AJ starts to huff & puff
That shot would have put Fury down or any other HW, don't think Vlad even landed a decent punch on Fury, it was an awful fight, that said I think a fit Fury could give AJ a world of problems.gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:03He never took a shot like that from Wlad. Wlad might've thrown a shot that powerful once or twice in the entire fight vs Fury.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:00
AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!
Clearly you were still drinking when Fury fought Wlad.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:00AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!dirk2686 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:44Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:34
Really? Even though Wlad very nearly beat him on points while barely landing a meaningful punch?
Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
Not even competitivedragons wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 15:33Yep ! I couldn't agree more. It wouldn't even be a competive fight . Fury v Wilder would be better in my opinon.Oiky wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 15:20 Tyson definitely beats AJ to say "Wlad just didn't throw a punch" and that's the only reason he lost is comicalWlad was clueless , he didn't know what ever to do with Tyson & he couldlnt even begin to think about timing him for a counter or anything as Tyson was so unorthodox he just didn't know where to start
Tyson beats AJ on a landslide points win or gets him out of there by bodyshot as AJ starts to huff & puff
No, not at all.dirk2686 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 17:45Clearly you were still drinking when Fury fought Wlad.mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:00AJ looked a bit in trouble when Wlad bounced him off the canvas.... Tyson took the same shots and laughed, then put his hands behind his back!dirk2686 wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 13:44
Plus Cunningham had him dropped and was ahead when Fury got to him. Joshua is twice the size and chin looks fine.
Tyson's first win over Chisora is probably his second best performance but the Wlad win has been overrated. Tyson landed on average less than three more punches than Wlad per round.
I agree with part of this. The bit where you say saying Wlad just didn’t throw any punches, it’s hugely nit giving fury the credit for being a difficult target to set upOiky wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 15:20 Tyson definitely beats AJ to say "Wlad just didn't throw a punch" and that's the only reason he lost is comicalWlad was clueless , he didn't know what ever to do with Tyson & he couldlnt even begin to think about timing him for a counter or anything as Tyson was so unorthodox he just didn't know where to start
Tyson beats AJ on a landslide points win or gets him out of there by bodyshot as AJ starts to huff & puff
I never said Wlad didn't throw a punch. I'm quoting the people that do say it..Ossyrules wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 19:28I agree with part of this. The bit where you say saying Wlad just didn’t throw any punches, it’s hugely nit giving fury the credit for being a difficult target to set upOiky wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 15:20 Tyson definitely beats AJ to say "Wlad just didn't throw a punch" and that's the only reason he lost is comicalWlad was clueless , he didn't know what ever to do with Tyson & he couldlnt even begin to think about timing him for a counter or anything as Tyson was so unorthodox he just didn't know where to start
Tyson beats AJ on a landslide points win or gets him out of there by bodyshot as AJ starts to huff & puff
The bit to say fury definitely beats Joshua is funny tough. Based on there careers and his power I don’t think anyone can say anyone definitely beats Joshua.
I’d be amazed if fury did get Joshua out of there with a body shot. That’s not fury’s game at all