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Controversial wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 05:29 Amir Khan didn't seem to get a lot of credit for beating Marcus Maidana, which considering Maidana was 29-1 (27 KOS) at the time, went on take the 0 from Broner and give FMM fits it really was a decent win for Khan.

Controversial wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 05:29 Amir Khan didn't seem to get a lot of credit for beating Marcus Maidana, which considering Maidana was 29-1 (27 KOS) at the time, went on take the 0 from Broner and give FMM fits it really was a decent win for Khan.

The sheer guts and resistance Ricky Burns showed against Crawford looks better and better over time

dookus wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 05:38 The sheer guts and resistance Ricky Burns showed against Crawford looks better and better over time

also the fact that Crawford didn't really seem to try to step up and stop him, which i would say has to speak to Burns's boxing ability otherwise Crawford just overwhelms people he knows can't box with him

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Mar 2020, 13:39

Ezzard wrote: ↑05 Mar 2020, 02:31 The Alavarez GGG 2 is interesting. It was one of the best performances by both men at 160 that I've ever seen. My problem is that as great as Alvarez was that night I thought he lost, close but clear. This robs Golovkin of another win.

That’s the trouble - the consensus is that Golovkin won both fights in a close but clear manner. The extremely predictable pro-Canelo scorecards left a very sour taste, so his excellent performance does get overlooked.

I remember at one point thinking that Golovkin was showing signs of severe fatigue and that Alvarez was going to overwhelm him. GGG seemed to be struggling. Then he started boxing, jabbing and moving around Alvarez. Great fight, wrong result.

A very underrated performance was Tim Witherspoon vs Frank Bruno - a very hostile atmosphere, he took shots off Bruno that would have knocked down a house and he outlasted him and beat him to the canvas - his shape detracted from the actual performance. I think if Bruno had got Berbick instead - he would have got him out of there (said in hindsight because Berbick was known as a very tough customer in those days...)

Charlie Magri vs Santos Laciar - Laciar was a 1980's flyweight standout and Charlie beat him convincingly on points

Joe Bugner W KO 1 Richard Dunn - when Bugner could turn it on and play Mr Nasty he could get them out in double quick time.

Joe Bugner and his wins in Australia vs David Bey, Greg Page and James Tillis - they were all good fighters and Bugner was past his prime - got him a WBC top ten ranking they did.

Pat Cowdell vs Salvador Sanchez - took an ATG to a split descion in Texas! Three knockdowns in the final round saved Sanchez's arse - amazing result in hindsight.

Hardy Canizales and Fenech Nelson are two fights that sometimes get overlooked because of the emphatic nature of their rematches.

Hamed seems to get a lot of stick just about everywhere you go but he absolutely blitzed a top level performer in Vuyani Bungu and made him look a complete novice. Around that time Espinosa walked through McKinney in two rounds, completely smashed him and effectively killed his career dead.

orbtastic wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 08:39 Hardy Canizales and Fenech Nelson are two fights that sometimes get overlooked because of the emphatic nature of their rematches.

Hamed seems to get a lot of stick just about everywhere you go but he absolutely blitzed a top level performer in Vuyani Bungu and made him look a complete novice. Around that time Espinosa walked through McKinney in two rounds, completely smashed him and effectively killed his career dead.

I was going to mention Hardy-Canizales - I thought Hardy won the first one but like you said - the rematch in the hot sun of Laredo Texas probably exposed it as a bad night for Canizales in Sunderland. Hardy showed tremendous bravery though.

fizzjambo wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 04:05

oogiebe wrote: ↑05 Mar 2020, 20:18 Underrated: Danny Williams over Mark Potter.

See I don’t think that win is under rated over here. Every time someone suffers a really brutal injury in a fight Williams sparking Potter with one arm gets brought up. It was an unbelievable comeback and show of bravery but I think it’s pretty well recognised?

I don't think many americans even know who Danny Williams is. So here it's massively underrated.

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 16:30

fizzjambo wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 04:05
See I don’t think that win is under rated over here. Every time someone suffers a really brutal injury in a fight Williams sparking Potter with one arm gets brought up. It was an unbelievable comeback and show of bravery but I think it’s pretty well recognised?

I don't think many americans even know who Danny Williams is. So here it's massively underrated.

They’ll keep mentioning that he beat Tyson lol

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Mar 2020, 18:45

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 16:30
I don't think many americans even know who Danny Williams is. So here it's massively underrated.

They’ll keep mentioning that he beat Tyson lol

Maddening but true.

Controversial wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 05:29 Amir Khan didn't seem to get a lot of credit for beating Marcus Maidana, which considering Maidana was 29-1 (27 KOS) at the time, went on take the 0 from Broner and give FMM fits it really was a decent win for Khan.

Khan was wobbled late, turned his back & should’ve been stopped.

Also, I felt it was a draw.

dookus wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 05:38 The sheer guts and resistance Ricky Burns showed against Crawford looks better and better over time

Really? I remember him getting the earmuffs on and being rather negative while being mugged on the ropes.

The Cobra beating King Arthur so easily.
He was an absolute monster bearing down on ATG status @ MW and a short-armed small gatekeeper at SMW.
Froch had his part in that - showed how it was done.

skanksta wrote: ↑07 Mar 2020, 20:59 The Cobra beating King Arthur so easily.
He was an absolute monster bearing down on ATG status @ MW and a short-armed small gatekeeper at SMW.
Froch had his part in that - showed how it was done.

Yes, perfect performance. As was the beating of Bute, a clinic of how to beat up a southpaw.

I was a big fan of his, but Groves' win vs Chudinov for the title a bit over-rated. It was a bit too close than what I was expecting and I think showed (in hinsight) that he was past his prime. I don't think a fight for the vacant WBA Super Middleweight world title, should not have been elevated to "Super World" status and certainly not with the ring magazine belt on the line also.

Can I throw Rees vs M'baye into the equation. Great unexpected win.

I think Carlos might have nailed it with Cowdell's incredible challenge against an out & out all time great in Sanchez. I can't think of a more undervalued effort than this one by a British fighter.

I think Tris Dixon could do with interviewing Cowdell and spend an hour on this fight alone !

On a lesser scale, Billy Schwer ripping away the European title against Oscar Garcia Cano in Spain
Billy's career seemed to be on the line that night and was so fired up for his challenge.

The most overrated win in my opinion is Lennox vs McCall 2. The shape McCall was on that fight makes the result totally meaningless. Anyone would have beat him that night. It still gets mentioned a lot. Lennox avenged all losses and yada yada

Most underrated to me is Fury vs Wlad. Beating Wlad on hes own game in Germany was fornicating epic. People just don't seem to understand what happened that night and are making all sort of excuses for it. Great win for Fury.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Mar 2020, 18:45

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 16:30
I don't think many americans even know who Danny Williams is. So here it's massively underrated.

They’ll keep mentioning that he beat Tyson lol

Nobody here thinks Mike ever legitimately lost a fight. His fans are maniacal. I actually don't think Barton gets enough credit for tszyu and kostya doesn't get enough for the Mitchell rematch. Ali/spinks 2 is underrated big-time. Overrated, Jones/Hopkins.

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑10 Mar 2020, 15:21 I think Carlos might have nailed it with Cowdell's incredible challenge against an out & out all time great in Sanchez. I can't think of a more undervalued effort than this one by a British fighter.

I think Tris Dixon could do with interviewing Cowdell and spend an hour on this fight alone !

On a lesser scale, Billy Schwer ripping away the European title against Oscar Garcia Cano in Spain
Billy's career seemed to be on the line that night and was so fired up for his challenge.

Ford put on an even better effort against Sanchez. In Patrick's next fight pedroza completely dismantled him, very underrated performance by eusebio. One more that just popped in my head, he was a vile man but Ayala against Yuri boy was pretty bad ass

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Mar 2020, 07:31

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Mar 2020, 18:45

They’ll keep mentioning that he beat Tyson lol

Nobody here thinks Mike ever legitimately lost a fight. His fans are maniacal. I actually don't think Barton gets enough credit for tszyu and kostya doesn't get enough for the Mitchell rematch. Ali/spinks 2 is underrated big-time. Overrated, Jones/Hopkins.

1 or 2?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2020, 07:48

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Mar 2020, 07:31

Nobody here thinks Mike ever legitimately lost a fight. His fans are maniacal. I actually don't think Barton gets enough credit for tszyu and kostya doesn't get enough for the Mitchell rematch. Ali/spinks 2 is underrated big-time. Overrated, Jones/Hopkins.

1 or 2?

Lol, sorry, 1. Underrated for Roy is the first tarver fight.

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 16:30

fizzjambo wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 04:05
See I don’t think that win is under rated over here. Every time someone suffers a really brutal injury in a fight Williams sparking Potter with one arm gets brought up. It was an unbelievable comeback and show of bravery but I think it’s pretty well recognised?

I don't think many americans even know who Danny Williams is. So here it's massively underrated.

That’s not under rated though, it’s unknown. Anyone who has seen Williams vs Potter would remember it

Heretic wrote: ↑11 Mar 2020, 04:22 The most overrated win in my opinion is Lennox vs McCall 2. The shape McCall was on that fight makes the result totally meaningless. Anyone would have beat him that night. It still gets mentioned a lot. Lennox avenged all losses and yada yada

Most underrated to me is Fury vs Wlad. Beating Wlad on hes own game in Germany was fornicating epic. People just don't seem to understand what happened that night and are making all sort of excuses for it. Great win for Fury.

Two excellent calls.