Re: Most Overrated Gym in the UK?
Posted: 04 Sep 2020, 06:46
It used to be bad at BN. It’s pretty fair now, but the north have all the best amateurs!
Whys that would you say Mickey .mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:46 It used to be bad at BN. It’s pretty fair now, but the north have all the best amateurs!
Speaking as a West Country man, that does wind me up too. Listening to Glenn Catley's experiences on Boxing Life Stories brings home just how invisible the whole region is in boxing despite having plenty of talent. Even Chris Sanigar got most of his experience in London.Deserter wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:43No offence, but I also get really bored of hearing the south of England lumped together, when in reality you're talking about London. For example, Chris Sanigar's track record in Bristol has nearly always flown under the radar despite the successes of the likes of Glen Catley, Dean Francis, Ross Hale, Lee Selby, Lee Haskins etc.
I don’t know. The guy at Birtley is the best trainer in the amateur game for me, but goes under the radar. The Leeds boys at Hunslet are mainly travelling boys and don’t go to school, Hope Price and his brothers have won it all. But I suppose it’s the same all over the country....coneye wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:53Whys that would you say Mickey .mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:46 It used to be bad at BN. It’s pretty fair now, but the north have all the best amateurs!
Obviously the gyms /coaches , have to be up to the job ,, but you need the talent to work with ,, I was gonna say do you think its because maybee theres more travellers up north , because its obvious a lot of travellers do wellmickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 07:15I don’t know. The guy at Birtley is the best trainer in the amateur game for me, but goes under the radar. The Leeds boys at Hunslet are mainly travelling boys and don’t go to school, Hope Price and his brothers have won it all. But I suppose it’s the same all over the country....coneye wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:53Whys that would you say Mickey .mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:46 It used to be bad at BN. It’s pretty fair now, but the north have all the best amateurs!
None of the Birtley lads are travellers, and they had two on the Olympic squad, three in the worlds and one world junior.coneye wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 07:22Obviously the gyms /coaches , have to be up to the job ,, but you need the talent to work with ,, I was gonna say do you think its because maybee theres more travellers up north , because its obvious a lot of travellers do wellmickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 07:15I don’t know. The guy at Birtley is the best trainer in the amateur game for me, but goes under the radar. The Leeds boys at Hunslet are mainly travelling boys and don’t go to school, Hope Price and his brothers have won it all. But I suppose it’s the same all over the country....
Which part mate?dookus wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:58Speaking as a West Country manDeserter wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:43No offence, but I also get really bored of hearing the south of England lumped together, when in reality you're talking about London. For example, Chris Sanigar's track record in Bristol has nearly always flown under the radar despite the successes of the likes of Glen Catley, Dean Francis, Ross Hale, Lee Selby, Lee Haskins etc.
West CornwallDeserter wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 08:05Which part mate?dookus wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:58Speaking as a West Country manDeserter wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:43
No offence, but I also get really bored of hearing the south of England lumped together, when in reality you're talking about London. For example, Chris Sanigar's track record in Bristol has nearly always flown under the radar despite the successes of the likes of Glen Catley, Dean Francis, Ross Hale, Lee Selby, Lee Haskins etc.
Ah yes! I bet that was a high-end sparkling place to train
I was the same age mate - did Tae Kwon Do from 11-18, but got disillusioned by semi-contact sparring.
More distractions in London!coneye wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:53Whys that would you say Mickey .mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:46 It used to be bad at BN. It’s pretty fair now, but the north have all the best amateurs!
Mark Dickinson is a travellermickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 07:33None of the Birtley lads are travellers, and they had two on the Olympic squad, three in the worlds and one world junior.coneye wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 07:22Obviously the gyms /coaches , have to be up to the job ,, but you need the talent to work with ,, I was gonna say do you think its because maybee theres more travellers up north , because its obvious a lot of travellers do wellmickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 07:15
I don’t know. The guy at Birtley is the best trainer in the amateur game for me, but goes under the radar. The Leeds boys at Hunslet are mainly travelling boys and don’t go to school, Hope Price and his brothers have won it all. But I suppose it’s the same all over the country....
I’ve no idea. I’m Yorkshire, their TTW! Good club though.smiling assassin wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 10:56Mark Dickinson is a travellermickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 07:33None of the Birtley lads are travellers, and they had two on the Olympic squad, three in the worlds and one world junior.
Like I said, I don’t class Repton as everyone seems to flock there. I remember Sedgefield having some outstanding kids.smiling assassin wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 12:46 Yeah very good club indeed. Graeme Rutherford must be an exceptional trainer to produce the fighters he has. Of course success breeds success and fighters will travel just to be at Birtley, just like they travel to box for Repton
“An old school “ villain by the sounds of it. I’ve looked for his record but all you get is he was a doorman at some London club. Then someone saying his brother is worse.Floyd the snake wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 10:52 Thoughts on Tony Sims gym ? Is he as good as people make out ?
great postDeserter wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:43I don't see that at all - in recent years it's been the likes of the Ingles and Gallaghers that have been most prominent in the media, both of them based in the North.
No offence, but I also get really bored of hearing the south of England lumped together, when in reality you're talking about London. For example, Chris Sanigar's track record in Bristol has nearly always flown under the radar despite the successes of the likes of Glen Catley, Dean Francis, Ross Hale, Lee Selby, Lee Haskins etc.
Listening to Glen Catley on you tube the other day he said he eventually quit after waiting months for his money and only picking up 1500 quid.Steveh583 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 14:16great postDeserter wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:43I don't see that at all - in recent years it's been the likes of the Ingles and Gallaghers that have been most prominent in the media, both of them based in the North.
No offence, but I also get really bored of hearing the south of England lumped together, when in reality you're talking about London. For example, Chris Sanigar's track record in Bristol has nearly always flown under the radar despite the successes of the likes of Glen Catley, Dean Francis, Ross Hale, Lee Selby, Lee Haskins etc.![]()
A quick google suggests he probably walks medium-heavy, but not as heavy as say the Bowers brothersmickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 12:59“An old school “ villain by the sounds of it. I’ve looked for his record but all you get is he was a doorman at some London club. Then someone saying his brother is worse.Floyd the snake wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 10:52 Thoughts on Tony Sims gym ? Is he as good as people make out ?
The impression I get is Sanigar did as well as he could with what boxing infrastructure/interest there was in the South West at the time, but that wasn't enough to properly promote a world level fighter like Catley.Coco wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 14:21Listening to Glen Catley on you tube the other day he said he eventually quit after waiting months for his money and only picking up 1500 quid.Steveh583 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 14:16great postDeserter wrote: ↑04 Sep 2020, 06:43
I don't see that at all - in recent years it's been the likes of the Ingles and Gallaghers that have been most prominent in the media, both of them based in the North.
No offence, but I also get really bored of hearing the south of England lumped together, when in reality you're talking about London. For example, Chris Sanigar's track record in Bristol has nearly always flown under the radar despite the successes of the likes of Glen Catley, Dean Francis, Ross Hale, Lee Selby, Lee Haskins etc.![]()
I was surprised to hear that as I always thought him and Saniger were close and I hadn't heard anyone speaking badly about him