margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Nov 2020, 20:16
aj is not bigger than joyce, joyce is a freaking unit. 6'6 and defined at 260
in fact i'd say fury is also just longer, not overall bigger. fury is a lot softer at 270 than joyce was
jj is about 6 5 aj is 6 6 so will his jab work against him doubt it, have you seen the uysk fight v joyce in amateurs dont think think he would beat him in the pros, jj wont beat dillian whyte i dont think, i feel out of order as i like joyce i feel like iam having to put him down here , why not hughie fury
How many times do I have to say Usyk had already won gold in the Olympics and Joyce had been an amateur for two years when that fight happened. 8 years have passed since then, and Joyce was robbed of his own Olympic gold? AJ and Fury are going to fight next year and the WBO will go vacant, so it will be Joyce-Usyk for the vacant title. Joyce might not win but Usyk didn't really impress me against Chisora -David Haye did far better against a fresher version- and so he'd be a live dog. Fwank with his salty rematch bollocks... Joyce deserves his shot. It's a solid fight.
calm down mate , not sure what your getting at, i like joyce to i hope he gets a shot at everthing ,i was just talking about out comes of fights, i hope joe gets to fight for world title , you have me wrong , its the fight game i hope every fighter gets a good payday
Re: what exactly does joe the jabber do next?
Posted: 28 Nov 2020, 21:15
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: what exactly does joe the jabber do next?
Posted: 28 Nov 2020, 21:18
by margaret thatcher
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑28 Nov 2020, 20:56
He said it himself in the post fight interview ... Usyk. Both guys would fancy it - seems easy enough to make for March/April. Final eliminator - winner fights AJ in summer.
could be the best of the realistic options
Re: what exactly does joe the jabber do next?
Posted: 28 Nov 2020, 21:20
by gilgamesh
Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑28 Nov 2020, 21:06
Usyk for vacent WBO.
or
Parker in a final eliminator for WBO
or....
Yoka in Paris...
Yoka just called him out on Twitter saying "I know you want that Olympic rematch. Everybody else wants it too"
brilo33 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2020, 20:36
jj is about 6 5 aj is 6 6 so will his jab work against him doubt it, have you seen the uysk fight v joyce in amateurs dont think think he would beat him in the pros, jj wont beat dillian whyte i dont think, i feel out of order as i like joyce i feel like iam having to put him down here , why not hughie fury
How many times do I have to say Usyk had already won gold in the Olympics and Joyce had been an amateur for two years when that fight happened. 8 years have passed since then, and Joyce was robbed of his own Olympic gold? AJ and Fury are going to fight next year and the WBO will go vacant, so it will be Joyce-Usyk for the vacant title. Joyce might not win but Usyk didn't really impress me against Chisora -David Haye did far better against a fresher version- and so he'd be a live dog. Fwank with his salty rematch bollocks... Joyce deserves his shot. It's a solid fight.
calm down mate , not sure what your getting at, i like joyce to i hope he gets a shot at everthing ,i was just talking about out comes of fights, i hope joe gets to fight for world title , you have me wrong , its the fight game i hope every fighter gets a good payday
Apologies if I came across aggressive and it's not aimed at you in particular, but I just made a lot of money off of people who've only ever probably watched Joyce-Usyk and thought "he's sh*t" without understanding the context of that fight and the levels both blokes were at. Like I said, keep slating the lad so the bookies think he's rubbish too and I get good odds. And that, I think, is what happened.
I think Joe will give a much better account of himself this time and has earned his shot.
Cyclops wrote: ↑28 Nov 2020, 21:07
How many times do I have to say Usyk had already won gold in the Olympics and Joyce had been an amateur for two years when that fight happened. 8 years have passed since then, and Joyce was robbed of his own Olympic gold? AJ and Fury are going to fight next year and the WBO will go vacant, so it will be Joyce-Usyk for the vacant title. Joyce might not win but Usyk didn't really impress me against Chisora -David Haye did far better against a fresher version- and so he'd be a live dog. Fwank with his salty rematch bollocks... Joyce deserves his shot. It's a solid fight.
calm down mate , not sure what your getting at, i like joyce to i hope he gets a shot at everthing ,i was just talking about out comes of fights, i hope joe gets to fight for world title , you have me wrong , its the fight game i hope every fighter gets a good payday
Apologies if I came across aggressive and it's not aimed at you in particular, but I just made a lot of money off of people who've only ever probably watched Joyce-Usyk and thought "he's sh*t" without understanding the context of that fight and the levels both blokes were at. Like I said, keep slating the lad so the bookies think he's rubbish too and I get good odds. And that, I think, is what happened.
I think Joe will give a much better account of himself this time and has earned his shot.
no probs, ive seen that fight but i rate usyk very highly ands thats not a slur on joyce , i hope joyce beats him, i am chatting out comes which mean nothing,there just opinions,but the good thing now though is he is being talked in those opinions now
calm down mate , not sure what your getting at, i like joyce to i hope he gets a shot at everthing ,i was just talking about out comes of fights, i hope joe gets to fight for world title , you have me wrong , its the fight game i hope every fighter gets a good payday
Apologies if I came across aggressive and it's not aimed at you in particular, but I just made a lot of money off of people who've only ever probably watched Joyce-Usyk and thought "he's sh*t" without understanding the context of that fight and the levels both blokes were at. Like I said, keep slating the lad so the bookies think he's rubbish too and I get good odds. And that, I think, is what happened.
I think Joe will give a much better account of himself this time and has earned his shot.
no probs, ive seen that fight but i rate usyk very highly ands thats not a slur on joyce , i hope joyce beats him, i am chatting out comes which mean nothing,there just opinions,but the good thing now though is he is being talked in those opinions now
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑28 Nov 2020, 20:56
He said it himself in the post fight interview ... Usyk. Both guys would fancy it - seems easy enough to make for March/April. Final eliminator - winner fights AJ in summer.
cant see that happening i dont think the money is there , there not big enough names outside boxing fans
Outside of boxing fans I think only Fury and AJ are big names. I don’t know what Joyce’s situation promoter wise is but Usyk’s with Eddie and if Eddie could sell a couple of gatekeepers like Whyte and Chisora to the masses as a ppv with presumably big purses for the fighters then he can do the same with these two I reckon
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑28 Nov 2020, 20:56
He said it himself in the post fight interview ... Usyk. Both guys would fancy it - seems easy enough to make for March/April. Final eliminator - winner fights AJ in summer.
cant see that happening i dont think the money is there , there not big enough names outside boxing fans
Outside of boxing fans I think only Fury and AJ are big names. I don’t know what Joyce’s situation promoter wise is but Usyk’s with Eddie and if Eddie could sell a couple of gatekeepers like Whyte and Chisora to the masses as a ppv with presumably big purses for the fighters then he can do the same with these two I reckon
Whyte and Chisora are known whyte fought aj chisora fought everyone, joe joyce aint known usyk maybe a bit more from fighting bellew , in boxing terms its great fight interesting one aswell,
cant see that happening i dont think the money is there , there not big enough names outside boxing fans
Outside of boxing fans I think only Fury and AJ are big names. I don’t know what Joyce’s situation promoter wise is but Usyk’s with Eddie and if Eddie could sell a couple of gatekeepers like Whyte and Chisora to the masses as a ppv with presumably big purses for the fighters then he can do the same with these two I reckon
Whyte and Chisora are known whyte fought aj chisora fought everyone, joe joyce aint known usyk maybe a bit more from fighting bellew , in boxing terms its great fight interesting one aswell,
Chisora was probably best known to the masses for the Haye press conference brawl and I don’t think Whyte even now is very well known at all.
I think any fighter who gets to an Olympic final like Joyce did will probably be known to more casuals than all but the most high profile pros.
I agree it would be a fascinating fight. If Joe can deal with a craftsman like Usyk then it begs the question can he deal with a craftsman his own size like Fury. Conversely if Usyk can bamboozle a giant like Joyce then people will believe he can do the same to AJ.
Really hope it gets made.
Re: what exactly does joe the jabber do next?
Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 03:02
by Monte Fisto
just follow the money now
Re: what exactly does joe the jabber do next?
Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 03:11
by Fray Bentos
Defend his titles and make some cash headlining a few shows.
Re: what exactly does joe the jabber do next?
Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 04:36
by Tuan_Jim
Chisora and Whyte are ranked over him, and they look the most achievable opponents (along with Hunter). Stopping Del Boy and Dillian in first half of 2021 would give him a good case for a title fight this time next year.
Re: what exactly does joe the jabber do next?
Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 05:34
by The Young One
There will be a lot variables as to what happens next, I don't see Usyk giving up on chasing down his title shot, and rightly so too, therefore the only way I see Usyk v Joyce happening anytime soon is if the WBO title becomes vacant. Also there is the issue of JJ's promotional and TV contract and potentially queensbury and Matchroom having to hammer out some sort if agreement for the fight although it may go straight to pursue bids. For me Joe should look to make a defence of the European title, I believe Huck is the mandatory, and move on from there.
Re: what exactly does joe the jabber do next?
Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 05:35
by DrDuke
Usyk, Ortiz or any top 10 guy.
Or his Olympic rivals like Yoka, Hrgovic and Ajagba.
