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Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 21 Sep 2021, 14:33
by candyslim
H8Usernames wrote: 21 Sep 2021, 09:07 I'm not a Dillian Whyte fan. I hate the way the Chisora fights were given to him. His prefight antics prior to those fights, the lousy performance vs AJ and last but not least all the b1tching and whining from him and his fans about how he is entitled to this or that which he is not. That being said Otto is on paper a hugely dangerous opponent sort of a high risk low reward kind of guy and Dillian is doing the brave thing by fighting him.
The first Chisora fight was close and could have gone either way but there can surely be no argument about the crushing knockout in the second fight even if Whyte had to come from behind (if you'll pardon the phrase).

There can be little doubt that Whyte has earned the respect of fans probably doing several times more to earn a title shot than most of those who got one. He has earned good money and he's a wealthy man but he's done that by fighting a succession of contenders and fringe contenders and entertained while beating them.

People sneer at Lucas Browne but before Dillian knocked him TF out he was unbeaten and had won a version of the world title in the champion's back yard. It was every bit as risky as the Wallin fight.

If Whyte were to flatten Wallin in one round, the Swede will be regarded as a joke and Whyte given little credit, but it doesn't change the fact that just as Browne was, Wallin is considered a very risky opponent before the fight.

I know you don"t like him much so fair play to you for giving him some credit.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 21 Sep 2021, 15:12
by DrDuke
candyslim wrote: 21 Sep 2021, 14:33
H8Usernames wrote: 21 Sep 2021, 09:07 I'm not a Dillian Whyte fan. I hate the way the Chisora fights were given to him. His prefight antics prior to those fights, the lousy performance vs AJ and last but not least all the b1tching and whining from him and his fans about how he is entitled to this or that which he is not. That being said Otto is on paper a hugely dangerous opponent sort of a high risk low reward kind of guy and Dillian is doing the brave thing by fighting him.
The first Chisora fight was close and could have gone either way but there can surely be no argument about the crushing knockout in the second fight even if Whyte had to come from behind (if you'll pardon the phrase).

There can be little doubt that Whyte has earned the respect of fans probably doing several times more to earn a title shot than most of those who got one. He has earned good money and he's a wealthy man but he's done that by fighting a succession of contenders and fringe contenders and entertained while beating them.

People sneer at Lucas Browne but before Dillian knocked him TF out he was unbeaten and had won a version of the world title in the champion's back yard. It was every bit as risky as the Wallin fight.

If Whyte were to flatten Wallin in one round, the Swede will be regarded as a joke and Whyte given little credit, but it doesn't change the fact that just as Browne was, Wallin is considered a very risky opponent before the fight.

I know you don"t like him much so fair play to you for giving him some credit.
I dunno who rated Browne. He has always been a pudding with a punch. Wallin can box at least.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 21 Sep 2021, 15:20
by major bastard
Will boxrec give Babic a heavyweight ranking again after this? I mean Bennet was 272, Browne is 250/260.

I loathe this decision to exclude all fighters the wbc list in their phony 'not heavyweight' division and leave them in limbo, without ranking or weightclass. Just list them all as heavies again! To hell with the wbc.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 21 Sep 2021, 15:48
by dickbelden
WHYTE 2.1-1 OVER WALLIN---5 DIMES

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 22 Sep 2021, 13:41
by candyslim
DrDuke wrote: 21 Sep 2021, 15:12
candyslim wrote: 21 Sep 2021, 14:33
H8Usernames wrote: 21 Sep 2021, 09:07 I'm not a Dillian Whyte fan. I hate the way the Chisora fights were given to him. His prefight antics prior to those fights, the lousy performance vs AJ and last but not least all the b1tching and whining from him and his fans about how he is entitled to this or that which he is not. That being said Otto is on paper a hugely dangerous opponent sort of a high risk low reward kind of guy and Dillian is doing the brave thing by fighting him.
The first Chisora fight was close and could have gone either way but there can surely be no argument about the crushing knockout in the second fight even if Whyte had to come from behind (if you'll pardon the phrase).

There can be little doubt that Whyte has earned the respect of fans probably doing several times more to earn a title shot than most of those who got one. He has earned good money and he's a wealthy man but he's done that by fighting a succession of contenders and fringe contenders and entertained while beating them.

People sneer at Lucas Browne but before Dillian knocked him TF out he was unbeaten and had won a version of the world title in the champion's back yard. It was every bit as risky as the Wallin fight.

If Whyte were to flatten Wallin in one round, the Swede will be regarded as a joke and Whyte given little credit, but it doesn't change the fact that just as Browne was, Wallin is considered a very risky opponent before the fight.

I know you don"t like him much so fair play to you for giving him some credit.
I dunno who rated Browne. He has always been a pudding with a punch. Wallin can box at least.
I think most people regarded the Whyte v Browne fight as fifty/fifty...ish. Browne was extremely disappointing but Dillian wasn't to know he was going to be.

As I recall there wasn't any danger of Whyte getting trampled by heavyweights rushing to fight Browne. He wasn't any kind of stylist but he hit hard enough to knock out Chagaev and was considered as being dangerous.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 22 Sep 2021, 13:49
by DrDuke
candyslim wrote: 22 Sep 2021, 13:41
DrDuke wrote: 21 Sep 2021, 15:12
candyslim wrote: 21 Sep 2021, 14:33

The first Chisora fight was close and could have gone either way but there can surely be no argument about the crushing knockout in the second fight even if Whyte had to come from behind (if you'll pardon the phrase).

There can be little doubt that Whyte has earned the respect of fans probably doing several times more to earn a title shot than most of those who got one. He has earned good money and he's a wealthy man but he's done that by fighting a succession of contenders and fringe contenders and entertained while beating them.

People sneer at Lucas Browne but before Dillian knocked him TF out he was unbeaten and had won a version of the world title in the champion's back yard. It was every bit as risky as the Wallin fight.

If Whyte were to flatten Wallin in one round, the Swede will be regarded as a joke and Whyte given little credit, but it doesn't change the fact that just as Browne was, Wallin is considered a very risky opponent before the fight.

I know you don"t like him much so fair play to you for giving him some credit.
I dunno who rated Browne. He has always been a pudding with a punch. Wallin can box at least.
I think most people regarded the Whyte v Browne fight as fifty/fifty...ish. Browne was extremely disappointing but Dillian wasn't to know he was going to be.

As I recall there wasn't any danger of Whyte getting trampled by heavyweights rushing to fight Browne. He wasn't any kind of stylist but he hit hard enough to knock out Chagaev and was considered as being dangerous.
I was expecting either Whyte dominating Browne or Browne catching Whyte, the Chagaev scenario at best for Browne.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 23 Sep 2021, 04:00
by candyslim
Fair enough. I'm a big fan of Dillian Whyte and I was very nervous.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 23 Sep 2021, 19:19
by margaret thatcher
wallin has more cred than browne for me because he's been in with the very top man in the division and had as much an argument to beat him as anyone did, that cut was absolutely horrendous. ppl forget too that he hurt fury in the 12th as well. he beat breazeale about 10-2 for me although showed some stamina issues i thought

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 23 Sep 2021, 19:25
by Onetimeonly
I wish I could have got whyte at even money. If there was more fighters like whyte boxing wouldn't suck.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 23 Sep 2021, 20:36
by KiwiRider
Considering all the other 'options' and rumours on who Whyte would be facing next, I like this one the most.
Should be entertaining :box:

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 06:27
by candyslim
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Sep 2021, 19:19 wallin has more cred than browne for me because he's been in with the very top man in the division and had as much an argument to beat him as anyone did, that cut was absolutely horrendous. ppl forget too that he hurt fury in the 12th as well. he beat breazeale about 10-2 for me although showed some stamina issues i thought
He certainly does now.

:D
Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Sep 2021, 19:25 I wish I could have got whyte at even money. If there was more fighters like whyte boxing wouldn't suck.
:TU:

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 16:26
by gregregegg
If i am whyte im sensing my boiz into ottos camp for sparing and telling em to put kinives in there gloves. gotta cut him up and get this canceled.

While im in the minority and think whyte beats otto, its way way wayyyyy to big a risk right now. without this fight whyte could be mando for fury and fighting him in march... with this fight who the fornicate knows, i wouldent be gambling it. Apart from anything else it is an ungodly amount of pressure on whyte.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 16:58
by KiwiRider
gregregegg wrote: 11 Oct 2021, 16:26 If i am whyte im sensing my boiz into ottos camp for sparing and telling em to put kinives in there gloves. gotta cut him up and get this canceled.

While im in the minority and think whyte beats otto, its way way wayyyyy to big a risk right now. without this fight whyte could be mando for fury and fighting him in march... with this fight who the fornicate knows, i wouldent be gambling it. Apart from anything else it is an ungodly amount of pressure on whyte.
It could also do him a PR favour. After the Fury Wilder fight and undercard, there isn't a lot of HW fights lined up.
Parker Chisora 2 :roll:
And Huggie .
So a competitive HW fight like this will get attention from fans still wanting more after the dust from Fury Wilder has settled.
I'm looking forward to it, because there isn't any heavyweight fights on the table so far for the rest of '21.
I don't want to pay for it, it isn't worth my hard earned money, but still I think like a lot of others, it's a good match up.
What better way to garner attention when there is nothing else, and boxing fans are hyped after one of the best heavyweight fightds in ages.
Easy to sell the winner as Fury's next fight too, that will attract Americans hopefully.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 17:35
by adislav123
i know there were guys in history who never got a shot at a title no matter who they beat.

but if whyte gets passed wallin it would br one of the harder earned title shots, defo at heavyweight.

mandatory for 5 frikkin years then... crazy.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 22:19
by rorenes
Can Wallin wina decision in England?

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 23:00
by mcrow24
H8Usernames wrote: 21 Sep 2021, 09:07 I'm not a Dillian Whyte fan. I hate the way the Chisora fights were given to him. His prefight antics prior to those fights, the lousy performance vs AJ and last but not least all the b1tching and whining from him and his fans about how he is entitled to this or that which he is not. That being said Otto is on paper a hugely dangerous opponent sort of a high risk low reward kind of guy and Dillian is doing the brave thing by fighting him.
This is definitely a better fight for Wallin than Whyte. It would be easily Walin's best win, he loses nobody would be surprised. Whyte loses can probably kiss any hopes of a title goodbye.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 23:11
by margaret thatcher
if whyte wins , how do his set of wins compare to wilder's?

parker
povetkin
chisora x2
rivas
wallin
helenius
browne (i figure he counts since wilder has a guy like molina)

will anyone consider ranking him above wilder (back to back ko losses, soon to have 0 wins in the last 2 years) if he beats wallin clearly? or are whytes own blips too big. for a long time we've treated aj/wilder in their own little bubble with fury, in a seperate world from guys like whyte, but is that still the reality?

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 23:32
by mcrow24
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Oct 2021, 23:11 if whyte wins , how do his set of wins compare to wilder's?

parker
povetkin
chisora x2
rivas
wallin
helenius
browne (i figure he counts since wilder has a guy like molina)

will anyone consider ranking him above wilder (back to back ko losses, soon to have 0 wins in the last 2 years) if he beats wallin clearly? or are whytes own blips too big. for a long time we've treated aj/wilder in their own little bubble with fury, in a seperate world from guys like whyte, but is that still the reality?
I think Whyte vs Wilder if he beats Walling would be a good matchup. Whyte wins, he arguably deserves a shot at Fury. Wilder probably has a long road back to getting a shot again though but taking out Whyte would show he's still a top 4 guy.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 12 Oct 2021, 00:48
by Syntax Error
rorenes wrote: 11 Oct 2021, 22:19 Can Wallin win a decision in England?
That's becoming a question.

Some recent scorecards have raised more than a few eyebrows.

England is the new Germany.

Just don't tell any Brexiters! :TU:

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 06:56
by margaret thatcher
some reports that this is off

if so im guessing whyte goes straight to the mando shot at fury now, was always a risk fighting wallin when already mandatory for a much bigger fight

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 08:05
by sibbo
mcrow24 wrote: 11 Oct 2021, 23:32
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Oct 2021, 23:11 if whyte wins , how do his set of wins compare to wilder's?

parker
povetkin
chisora x2
rivas
wallin
helenius
browne (i figure he counts since wilder has a guy like molina)

will anyone consider ranking him above wilder (back to back ko losses, soon to have 0 wins in the last 2 years) if he beats wallin clearly? or are whytes own blips too big. for a long time we've treated aj/wilder in their own little bubble with fury, in a seperate world from guys like whyte, but is that still the reality?
I think Whyte vs Wilder if he beats Walling would be a good matchup. Whyte wins, he arguably deserves a shot at Fury. Wilder probably has a long road back to getting a shot again though but taking out Whyte would show he's still a top 4 guy.
So on top of the long list of contenders he's already beaten, you say he needs to beat Wallin AND Wilder to "arguably" get a shot at fury?.... Maybe he should also beat Ruiz, AJ, and Ortiz too just to make sure?

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 08:26
by The Gratest
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 06:56 some reports that this is off

if so im guessing whyte goes straight to the mando shot at fury now, was always a risk fighting wallin when already mandatory for a much bigger fight
Yes Margaret, reportedly off due to a Whyte shoulder injury.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/boxing ... 61487.html

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 08:38
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 09:18
by jamesmcdonnell
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 08:38
Hmmmmm, sounds a little suspicious to me. Very convenient for Whyte.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 09:31
by Monzon83
It's a blatant duck job, he's already mando for Fury why risk that. He has nothing to gain and everything to lose here.

No way it's getting re-arranged unless Fury point blank refuses to defend v Whyte.