Scott Quigg can match it. WBA stripped Rigo before the Frampton-Quigg fight & upgraded Quigg to world champion. Quigg lost to Frampton & never won a world title fight.Rezzer1967 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:47 I’m not saying Alex Arthur was a bad fighter but he was given the WBO championship, elevated from interim, lost it immediately to Nicky Cook, who lost it to Ricky Burns in 2 minutes of the first round. He’s a world champion who never won a world title fight. No one can top that.
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Ken Norton is another world champion who never won a world title fight.a force wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 03:16Scott Quigg can match it. WBA stripped Rigo before the Frampton-Quigg fight & upgraded Quigg to world champion. Quigg lost to Frampton & never won a world title fight.Rezzer1967 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:47 I’m not saying Alex Arthur was a bad fighter but he was given the WBO championship, elevated from interim, lost it immediately to Nicky Cook, who lost it to Ricky Burns in 2 minutes of the first round. He’s a world champion who never won a world title fight. No one can top that.
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Fray Bentos
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Beat me to it!bennie wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 03:42Ken Norton is another world champion who never won a world title fight.a force wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 03:16Scott Quigg can match it. WBA stripped Rigo before the Frampton-Quigg fight & upgraded Quigg to world champion. Quigg lost to Frampton & never won a world title fight.Rezzer1967 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:47 I’m not saying Alex Arthur was a bad fighter but he was given the WBO championship, elevated from interim, lost it immediately to Nicky Cook, who lost it to Ricky Burns in 2 minutes of the first round. He’s a world champion who never won a world title fight. No one can top that.
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Counter-puncher
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IIRC he must have thrown a thousand-odd punches against Buckland?GreenLightning wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 20:40If Gavin had any decent stamina he would have been a problem for anyone, worst??skanksta wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 16:17 Gavin "The Rock" Rees beat M'baye when he was on valium, but I'd suggest Big Frank.
He was little more than a slow, stiff bodybuilder with a jab really.
I loved both of them and most of the other names suggested. To be World Champion - even in the multibelt era - you have to be a very good fighter indeed.![]()
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polecateddy
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WBO Middleweight champion Jason Matthews can’t be too far off. Apart from the flattering overpowering of Ryan Rhodes, in retrospect he was only a chinny British level banger.
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JamesPhilips
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Good shout, similar to Paul Silky Jones.polecateddy wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 08:13 WBO Middleweight champion Jason Matthews can’t be too far off. Apart from the flattering overpowering of Ryan Rhodes, in retrospect he was only a chinny British level banger.
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Riddick Bowie
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If we're counting WBO... Almost all of them! In the 90s and 00s, boxing for the WBO title was a tacit admission that you wanted to be called world champion but didn't want to fight a real champion, or defend against world class challengers.
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Hate to say this but Bruno could be in the mix up.
Great guy and lovely fella but rolled against Tyson in the second fight. Bruno was terrified and that's not what a world champion should be.
Great guy and lovely fella but rolled against Tyson in the second fight. Bruno was terrified and that's not what a world champion should be.
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I was at that fight. He didn't overpower him, he caught him cold.polecateddy wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 08:13 WBO Middleweight champion Jason Matthews can’t be too far off. Apart from the flattering overpowering of Ryan Rhodes, in retrospect he was only a chinny British level banger.
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GreenLightning
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polecateddy
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He definitely took something away from Rhodes that night. Chased him down to light-middle long term, and in doing so lost muscle mass/punching power/and belief it seems to me in retrospect.mickey1975 wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 11:50I was at that fight. He didn't overpower him, he caught him cold.polecateddy wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 08:13 WBO Middleweight champion Jason Matthews can’t be too far off. Apart from the flattering overpowering of Ryan Rhodes, in retrospect he was only a chinny British level banger.
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margaret thatcher
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ya matthews and jones gotta be up there
jones has the interesting feat of winning a world title, then losing for the british in his next fight
jones has the interesting feat of winning a world title, then losing for the british in his next fight
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margaret thatcher
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he was totally bizarre after his last fight. was uttering all sorts of unintelligble nonsense and basically admitted to throwing the fight out of payback for something. his opponent was a very shady character (a gangster before boxing, with basically no boxing background before going pro) who i suspected of buying wins even before ola fought him
i looked more into ola after this, and hadnt realized what a nutter he was. i dont know if he was always like that or if it happened gradually throughout his career.
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JamesPhilips
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Michael Bentt was born in East Dulwich and was allegedly a Mlillwall supporter
Kod by Jerry Jones in his debut and by Herbie Hide. Kod a Tommy Morrison who'd been onnthe piss all night at a concert.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/5642
Kod by Jerry Jones in his debut and by Herbie Hide. Kod a Tommy Morrison who'd been onnthe piss all night at a concert.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/5642
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I'll go with Stuart Hall on this one
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JamesPhilips
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All the guys who got to hold a world title can fight. Although some like most of those already identified had considerable luck to be around at the right time .. and have the right promoter.
Tony Bellew most definitely falls into that category. After the Stevenson loss I thought he`d disappear and quickly be forgotten. But he reinvented himself some .. and now he is a British all time great .. to his nan anyway.
Tony Bellew most definitely falls into that category. After the Stevenson loss I thought he`d disappear and quickly be forgotten. But he reinvented himself some .. and now he is a British all time great .. to his nan anyway.
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fuuuuckin' hell. i hate being that internet guy who says "you don't know boxing...." but there's some shocking comments in this thread. maybe i'm getting on a bit and its a generational thing, but boxing knowledge and history has really dipped on this site.
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Audley Harrison destroying the “Dutch Sonny Liston” to win the highly coveted WBF heavyweight title at licence payers expense was an incomparable act of taking the p*ss whilst scraping the barrel.
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forcefraser
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Are we talking worst championship reign or worst overall fighter to hold a world title?
Bruno has to be In for a shout of worst reign
Scraped past McCall then soiled his daks badly in his first defence and promptly retired
Bruno has to be In for a shout of worst reign
Scraped past McCall then soiled his daks badly in his first defence and promptly retired