He weighed 223¼ against Breazeale. His highest since Arreola.
He's never weghed more than 229.
I know but he said he would come in at 240 for the Fury rematch.
EDIT: Just seen a video filmed this week and Wilder said he's 225lb at the moment.
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Yh. He’s have to put on weight. No good
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 09:11
by Ruthless-RKO
The first day of Wilder-Ortiz 2 fight week activities begins this afternoon with the grand arrivals of the PPV fighters taking place at the MGM Grand Lobby. Fight fans are welcome to attend.
2:00 p.m. – Luis Nery & Emmanuel Rodriguez
2:20 p.m. – Brandon Figueroa & Julio Ceja
2:40 p.m. – Leo Santa Cruz & Miguel Flores
3:00 p.m. – Deontay Wilder & Luis Ortiz
Other *open to the public* activities are Wednesday public workouts (Wilder and Ortiz not attending) starting at 11 a.m. on the MGM Grand Casino Floor (next to TAP and the Race & Sports Book), and the final weigh-ins at 2:30 p.m. on Friday inside the MGM Grand Garden Arena
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 09:47
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 12:27
by Jeff_lacy_ko
I think ortiz is patient and really cautious in this. I think wilder is a bit cautious too. I see a dull affair where wilder wins a close decision
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 12:31
by Jeff_lacy_ko
lazboy wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 02:06
He does look great. For some reason I thought Ortiz was just coming to survive but seeing him now maybe he’s coming to win.
The tue he has for his "blood pressure meds" is being used to full effect!
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 13:36
by diddy
Ortiz HAS to know he needs a KO here. Especially since he was clearly appearing to be ahead in the first fight and the judges had him trailing. The money behind Wilder has only increased since so now Ortiz REALLY needs a KO. Wilder knows he's got the judges in his pocket here. Thats a big advantage for any fighter. One knows he doesnt really need to take chances. The other knows he has to. Knowing you have to take risks against a savage puncher like Wilder is a tough spot to be in.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 14:07
by margaret thatcher
Wilder since the last many years is usually 220+, mostly around 225 and sometimes almost 230 and still looking in good nick.. 240 isn't actually THAT huge of a jump, but doubt it would be a help though, he already has the power and gaining weight might just make him slower and with less stamina
On another note, this guy is 6'7, with a huge wingspan, averaging about 225 and still ripped at almost 230. Yet he gets used in the history section as a guy whose success shows size doesn't matter
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 14:24
by Enlightened-One
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 14:07
Wilder since the last many years is usually 220+, mostly around 225 and sometimes almost 230 and still looking in good nick.. 240 isn't actually THAT huge of a jump, but doubt it would be a help though, he already has the power and gaining weight might just make him slower and with less stamina
On another note, this guy is 6'7, with a huge wingspan, averaging about 225 and still ripped at almost 230. Yet he gets used in the history section as a guy whose success shows size doesn't matter
I can’t agree with your assertions about Wilder’s weight.
Calculate his average weight against top-ten Ring-ranked opposition and then review the equivalent figure for the low calibre opponents he faced.
It makes for very interesting reading.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 14:29
by margaret thatcher
My assertions are all correct, you're adding your own qualifications I never made
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 11:41
by Ruthless-RKO
With Fox broadcasters Kenny Albert and Chris Myers, both of whom handle blow-by-blow duties for Fox boxing events, both assigned to call NFL games on Sunday and unavailable to work the Deontay Wilder-Luis Ortiz II Fox PPV card on Saturday night in Las Vegas, Brian Kenny will handle duties with regular Fox analysts Lennox Lewis and Joe Goossen. Kenny, who used to work Premier Boxing Champions cards for Fox, now works as a blow-by-blow announcer for DAZN. However, according to sources, the two broadcasters worked it out so Kenny could fill in and work the Fox PPV event.
Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
adislav123 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 12:27
anybody actually watched the first fight?
You didn't watch it? It was damn good.
Why would any boxing fan not want to watch the fight? Even after the fight, hearing/reading about it, why would you not wanna go back and watch it.. weird that eh.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Why would any boxing fan not want to watch the fight? Even after the fight, hearing/reading about it, why would you not wanna go back and watch it.. weird that eh.
Yeah, sometimes I can miss something, but if it's discussed a lot and has good opinions about itself, my interest grows.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Why would any boxing fan not want to watch the fight? Even after the fight, hearing/reading about it, why would you not wanna go back and watch it.. weird that eh.
Yeah, sometimes I can miss something, but if it's discussed a lot and has good opinions about itself, my interest grows.
Considering it was 18 months ago.. also, there’s some really good highlights on YouTube
The full 1hr+ fight has been recently uploaded as well.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 13:24
by Enlightened-One
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 14:29
My assertions are all correct, you're adding your own qualifications I never made
Here's what you wrote:
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 14:07Wilder since the last many years is usually 220+, mostly around 225 and sometimes almost 230 and still looking in good nick.. 240 isn't actually THAT huge of a jump
Excluding the Breazeale fight, which is anomalous, The Bronze Bomber’s average weight for all his bouts against top-ten world-rated opposition (as per The RING) is 216lbs (i.e. Stiverne twice, Ortiz & Fury).
Deontay Wilder’s official ring weight for against Tyson Fury was only 209lbs.
'The Bronze Bomber' has a reputation for competing "light" against opposition he perceives as being legitimate threats to his title reign.
Wilder usually weighs around the 225lbs to 230lbs mark against all the other guys he’s heavily-favoured to beat.
The Showtime/Fox commentary teams persistently labour over this point whilst covering his bouts, which is clearly supported by his BoxRec stats.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:15
by KiwiRider
Kenny "fondle fingers" Baliss to ref.
He better not try and get his fondling fingers too close to these guys. Probably get splattered by a windmill
Im obviously not much of a fan.
He is too soft, IMO, and the Mrs says he's creepy.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:20
by lazboy
KiwiRider wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:15
Kenny "fondle fingers" Baliss to ref.
He better not try and get his fondling fingers too close to these guys. Probably get splattered by a windmill
Im obviously not much of a fan.
He is too soft, IMO, and the Mrs says he's creepy.
I’m pretty sure he doesn’t blink.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 14:29
My assertions are all correct, you're adding your own qualifications I never made
Here's what you wrote:
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 14:07Wilder since the last many years is usually 220+, mostly around 225 and sometimes almost 230 and still looking in good nick.. 240 isn't actually THAT huge of a jump
Excluding the Breazeale fight, which is anomalous, The Bronze Bomber’s average weight for all his bouts against top-ten world-rated opposition (as per The RING) is 216lbs (i.e. Stiverne twice, Ortiz & Fury).
Deontay Wilder’s official ring weight for against Tyson Fury was only 209lbs.
'The Bronze Bomber' has a reputation for competing "light" against opposition he perceives as being legitimate threats to his title reign.
Wilder usually weighs around the 225lbs to 230lbs mark against all the other guys he’s heavily-favoured to beat.
The Showtime/Fox commentary teams persistently labour over this point whilst covering his bouts, which is clearly supported by his BoxRec stats.
His median weight throughout his career is around 223. Not sure why any of this means anything really. He was coming off the flu for the first Ortiz fight and he was too light for the Fury fight. Those two were the anomolies. Last 7 fights: 223.5/212.5/214.75/220.75/222/226.25/228.75. Vs Ortiz II...???
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 18:40
by oogiebe
Wilder says he's around 225 lbs for this fight.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 20:01
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 20:05
by margaret thatcher
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 18:40
Wilder says he's around 225 lbs for this fight.
That seems like a good weight, he is still ripped even then
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
