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Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 07:15
by jwfg
joshj909 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:12 Just watched some of the highlights. Why was the knockdown not given? Looked weird as the punch didn't connect well but didn't look like an obvious trip or slip??
Ref thought it was a slip.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 07:18
by joshj909
jwfg wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:15
joshj909 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:12 Just watched some of the highlights. Why was the knockdown not given? Looked weird as the punch didn't connect well but didn't look like an obvious trip or slip??
Ref thought it was a slip.
That's a dodgy call. Watched it a few times and looks a clear knockdown to me. Feet don't appear to make any contact and Taylor loses balance and topples over rather than foot not making contact with the mat properly. Her left leg doesn't even move off the mat, which is the reason she went over.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 07:22
by jwfg
joshj909 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:18
jwfg wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:15
joshj909 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:12 Just watched some of the highlights. Why was the knockdown not given? Looked weird as the punch didn't connect well but didn't look like an obvious trip or slip??
Ref thought it was a slip.
That's a dodgy call. Watched it a few times and looks a clear knockdown to me. Feet don't appear to make any contact and Taylor loses balance and topples over rather than foot not making contact with the mat properly. Her left leg doesn't even move off the mat, which is the reason she went over.
In the refs defence, he only gets to see it once, from one angle and has to make a call in the moment.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 08:00
by Delta Jay
Looking back, a different ref crowd or judges could’ve turned that fight right around. CC won’t have it any easier next time either. Two warriors tho and if they’ve both got an argument to make going into the 3rd and a Big Croke Park fight next summer sounds great to me, I was planning on going to Ireland around then anyway.

Have to convince my bird to go now…

What changes do you see either fighter making for next time?

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 08:37
by Frostieballs
Cracking fight. But as said before, how come they were both allowed to wear black and gold?

Similar hair, similar height... hard to tell apart at times!

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 08:41
by Coco
That's pro boxing, you do what you can get away with

Other refs could of been strict about Taylor's headwork and holding.

Cameron struggled with the cut, even though it was looked after well, she was a bit hesitant for a few rounds giving Taylor enough space to get her shots off.

Obviously been said before but the ref in the Fury fight is going to be crucial.

Joe Cortez didn't let Hatton fight on the inside

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 08:44
by Ruthless-RKO
joshj909 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:12 Just watched some of the highlights. Why was the knockdown not given? Looked weird as the punch didn't connect well but didn't look like an obvious trip or slip??
She never stood on her foot either.

It looked like she stood around her foot whilst she lunged in.

Regardless, was a clean punch that dropped her.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 09:51
by lefthook82
Frostieballs wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 08:37 Cracking fight. But as said before, how come they were both allowed to wear black and gold?

Similar hair, similar height... hard to tell apart at times!
Yes I struggled with this more than once. Very stupid really.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 10:18
by jwfg
lefthook82 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 09:51
Frostieballs wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 08:37 Cracking fight. But as said before, how come they were both allowed to wear black and gold?

Similar hair, similar height... hard to tell apart at times!
Yes I struggled with this more than once. Very stupid really.
When Tyson fought Berbick, the commission had a rule that the challenger had to wear different colour shorts to the champion. To be a pudendum, Berbick wore black, Tyson chose to also wear black and was fined accordingly.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 10:24
by Steveh583
just watched it again. taylor did brilliantly and fought a clever fight like a seasoned pro.i can see how the ref called it a slip in the heat of the moment.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 12:39
by SeanBrennan
re-watched it this morning, good fight and I think the right decision. Trilogy incoming.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 12:53
by Monzon83
Isn’t there a woman’s section for this crap?

Can we keep this in there. :brick:

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 12:59
by handsofstone
Monzon83 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 12:53 Isn’t there a woman’s section for this crap?

Can we keep this in there. :brick:
You go there, we'll stay here :TU:

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 13:21
by SeanBrennan
handsofstone wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 12:59
Monzon83 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 12:53 Isn’t there a woman’s section for this crap?

Can we keep this in there. :brick:
You go there, we'll stay here :TU:
excellent suggestion.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 13:21
by SeanBrennan
Monzon83 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 12:53 Isn’t there a woman’s section for this crap?

Can we keep this in there. :brick:
If you don't like reading it, scroll on boy.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 13:22
by SeanBrennan
popped Monzon on ignore so I don't have to read his bitterness towards women and anyone else different. His mum'll be calling him for dinner soon so we'll get a break.

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 13:32
by Ruthless-RKO
Katie Taylor: “It's Great To Prove People Wrong, I'm Back On Top Again”

“It definitely feels like the greatest performance of my career,” Taylor told a group of reporters during the post-fight press conference Saturday evening at 3Arena in Dublin. “This was the longest six months of waiting for this rematch. These past few weeks, I just went to bed thinking about this rematch. Just the pressure as well. It came to be that people were writing me off. This win meant so much to me.

“It’s great to prove people wrong. I’m back on top again.”

“Everyone watching the [first] fight knew it wasn’t myself last time,” Taylor said of the difference in her performances between the two fights. “I definitely felt a lot better this fight. I knew it was going to be a lot different. I knew when I stepped into the ring I would be myself and was going to win the fight.”

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 14:53
by jwfg
handsofstone wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 12:59
Monzon83 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 12:53 Isn’t there a woman’s section for this crap?

Can we keep this in there. :brick:
You go there, we'll stay here :TU:
:lol:

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 15:37
by cormack
Monzon83 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 12:53 Isn’t there a woman’s section for this crap?

Can we keep this in there. :brick:
haters always hate

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 16:18
by rd350lc
I wouldn't go as far as Monzon and boxing is boxing,but he's got a bit of a point.
There's very little opposition of quality in women's boxing and you can literally have 10 fights and be an alphabet world champion .
The gushing over Taylor is nauseating, Hearn calling her one of the greatest fighters of all time is an injustice to " great " fighters .
Can't even fight 3 minute rounds , why is that ?
Taylor last night was technically very poor at delivering punches correctly and people applaud it .
I don't get it .

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 16:32
by coneye
jwfg wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:22
joshj909 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:18
jwfg wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:15

Ref thought it was a slip.
That's a dodgy call. Watched it a few times and looks a clear knockdown to me. Feet don't appear to make any contact and Taylor loses balance and topples over rather than foot not making contact with the mat properly. Her left leg doesn't even move off the mat, which is the reason she went over.
In the refs defence, he only gets to see it once, from one angle and has to make a call in the moment.

Yes but he did get to see the constant headbut hold , headbutt hold scenario EVERY RND

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 16:34
by MasterG
If this was a whole card dedicated to women fights I would agree. It's got men on it too and to be fair RKO does set up the round by round fights each weekend. I'll stick it in the women's section tomorrow when it's fish and chip paper

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 16:38
by rd350lc
coneye wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 16:32
jwfg wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:22
joshj909 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 07:18

That's a dodgy call. Watched it a few times and looks a clear knockdown to me. Feet don't appear to make any contact and Taylor loses balance and topples over rather than foot not making contact with the mat properly. Her left leg doesn't even move off the mat, which is the reason she went over.
In the refs defence, he only gets to see it once, from one angle and has to make a call in the moment.

Yes but he did get to see the constant headbut hold , headbutt hold scenario EVERY RND
Funnily enough, chose to ignore it .

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 17:36
by SeanBrennan
stevec@france wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 15:37
Monzon83 wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 12:53 Isn’t there a woman’s section for this crap?

Can we keep this in there. :brick:
haters always hate
should change his name from Monzom to Moansome

Re: Round-by-Round: Chantelle Cameron vs. Katie Taylor II | DAZN - 25 November 2023

Posted: 26 Nov 2023, 18:07
by dookus
Ref basically did for Cameron's chances between the knockdown and allowing constant holding.