Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"
Posted: 16 Feb 2021, 15:35
This is a professional INLA hitman, send out to murder a man by the Kinahans (apologies for DM)
i know but the thing is you always get done when you go against the law everyone does ,but thats up to the courts so what im getting at is. is it a moral issue at the moment, bescause if it is, who are the moral police on it , iam older now i dont think like i did as child which i was a far more hardcore and honestly it werent abut flashy nothing it is about respect or being known by someone big because these people are the celebritys , if someone said there is tom crusie when i was kid i would off said the geezer is p.... but there is a local or maybe a world wide bussiness man you would be in ore , look everyone has the same morals when comes to predators , but everything else can be very subjectiveGreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 15:11Christy Kinahan was middle class and made his empire selling poison, so stop it with the Daniel Kinahan made from the streets shitebrilo33 wrote: ↑12 Feb 2021, 19:17 look the thing is people are grown up around crime from birth and have different morals you cant help it , honestly the film another bronx tale explains it well, nil by mouth another good one ,If you live among wolves you have to act like a wolf. prison is where normal good people go ,weirdos go to university ,this is the mentality,even a propper job is kinda frowned appon unless there is benifts what can you take , ,so there is a flip side to the coin ,and some opinions sound so farfetch it sounds absolute nuts ,
yes, the drug crime laws are ripe for exploitation, and wrong
A kid who gets in with the local guy with a fancy car an jewelry by doing a few very well paid "errands" for him cannot be blamed, but the people who actively exploit these disgusting trades can't be handwaved away as unfortunate products of their enviroments, their VICTIMS are usually those unfortunate products because they are the ones exploited, robbed, beaten, and abused
No idea what you're trying to say here, but there's no ambiguity about selling smack and having 17 people killed.brilo33 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 15:20i know but the thing is you always get done when you go against the law everyone does ,but thats up to the courts so what im getting at is. is it a moral issue at the moment, bescause if it is, who are the moral police on it , iam older now i dont think like i did as child which i was a far more hardcore and honestly it werent abut flashy nothing it is about respect or being known by someone big because these people are the celebritys , if someone said there is tom crusie when i was kid i would off said the geezer is p.... but there is a local or maybe a world wide bussiness man you would be in ore , look everyone has the same morals when comes to predators , but everything else can be very subjectiveGreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 15:11Christy Kinahan was middle class and made his empire selling poison, so stop it with the Daniel Kinahan made from the streets shitebrilo33 wrote: ↑12 Feb 2021, 19:17 look the thing is people are grown up around crime from birth and have different morals you cant help it , honestly the film another bronx tale explains it well, nil by mouth another good one ,If you live among wolves you have to act like a wolf. prison is where normal good people go ,weirdos go to university ,this is the mentality,even a propper job is kinda frowned appon unless there is benifts what can you take , ,so there is a flip side to the coin ,and some opinions sound so farfetch it sounds absolute nuts ,
yes, the drug crime laws are ripe for exploitation, and wrong
A kid who gets in with the local guy with a fancy car an jewelry by doing a few very well paid "errands" for him cannot be blamed, but the people who actively exploit these disgusting trades can't be handwaved away as unfortunate products of their enviroments, their VICTIMS are usually those unfortunate products because they are the ones exploited, robbed, beaten, and abused
i mean look at prrimark nikee all these gafs all have expolited kids allegedly, slave labour no one cares really you just dont think about it you cant or it would eat you up
if thats the case there gonna get done sooner more than later is my point ,Gnome wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 16:32No idea what you're trying to say here, but there's no ambiguity about selling smack and having 17 people killed.brilo33 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 15:20i know but the thing is you always get done when you go against the law everyone does ,but thats up to the courts so what im getting at is. is it a moral issue at the moment, bescause if it is, who are the moral police on it , iam older now i dont think like i did as child which i was a far more hardcore and honestly it werent abut flashy nothing it is about respect or being known by someone big because these people are the celebritys , if someone said there is tom crusie when i was kid i would off said the geezer is p.... but there is a local or maybe a world wide bussiness man you would be in ore , look everyone has the same morals when comes to predators , but everything else can be very subjectiveGreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 15:11
Christy Kinahan was middle class and made his empire selling poison, so stop it with the Daniel Kinahan made from the streets shite
yes, the drug crime laws are ripe for exploitation, and wrong
A kid who gets in with the local guy with a fancy car an jewelry by doing a few very well paid "errands" for him cannot be blamed, but the people who actively exploit these disgusting trades can't be handwaved away as unfortunate products of their enviroments, their VICTIMS are usually those unfortunate products because they are the ones exploited, robbed, beaten, and abused
i mean look at prrimark nikee all these gafs all have expolited kids allegedly, slave labour no one cares really you just dont think about it you cant or it would eat you up
Libertarian socialist anarchism is the way to go buddy, but that's deep socio-econim policy but not as scary as it sounds, far from it. Hierarcnies are inherently ripe for corruption, so they must be torn downbrilo33 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 15:20i know but the thing is you always get done when you go against the law everyone does ,but thats up to the courts so what im getting at is. is it a moral issue at the moment, bescause if it is, who are the moral police on it , iam older now i dont think like i did as child which i was a far more hardcore and honestly it werent abut flashy nothing it is about respect or being known by someone big because these people are the celebritys , if someone said there is tom crusie when i was kid i would off said the geezer is p.... but there is a local or maybe a world wide bussiness man you would be in ore , look everyone has the same morals when comes to predators , but everything else can be very subjectiveGreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 15:11Christy Kinahan was middle class and made his empire selling poison, so stop it with the Daniel Kinahan made from the streets shitebrilo33 wrote: ↑12 Feb 2021, 19:17 look the thing is people are grown up around crime from birth and have different morals you cant help it , honestly the film another bronx tale explains it well, nil by mouth another good one ,If you live among wolves you have to act like a wolf. prison is where normal good people go ,weirdos go to university ,this is the mentality,even a propper job is kinda frowned appon unless there is benifts what can you take , ,so there is a flip side to the coin ,and some opinions sound so farfetch it sounds absolute nuts ,
yes, the drug crime laws are ripe for exploitation, and wrong
A kid who gets in with the local guy with a fancy car an jewelry by doing a few very well paid "errands" for him cannot be blamed, but the people who actively exploit these disgusting trades can't be handwaved away as unfortunate products of their enviroments, their VICTIMS are usually those unfortunate products because they are the ones exploited, robbed, beaten, and abused
i mean look at prrimark nikee all these gafs all have expolited kids allegedly, slave labour no one cares really you just dont think about it you cant or it would eat you up
its hard when your born in to it mate and there isnt anyone offering you anything better , it aint black n white more than that ,GreenLightning wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 17:16Libertarian socialist anarchism is the way to go buddy, but that's deep socio-econim policy but not as scary as it sounds, far from it. Hierarcnies are inherently ripe for corruption, so they must be torn downbrilo33 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 15:20i know but the thing is you always get done when you go against the law everyone does ,but thats up to the courts so what im getting at is. is it a moral issue at the moment, bescause if it is, who are the moral police on it , iam older now i dont think like i did as child which i was a far more hardcore and honestly it werent abut flashy nothing it is about respect or being known by someone big because these people are the celebritys , if someone said there is tom crusie when i was kid i would off said the geezer is p.... but there is a local or maybe a world wide bussiness man you would be in ore , look everyone has the same morals when comes to predators , but everything else can be very subjectiveGreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 15:11
Christy Kinahan was middle class and made his empire selling poison, so stop it with the Daniel Kinahan made from the streets shite
yes, the drug crime laws are ripe for exploitation, and wrong
A kid who gets in with the local guy with a fancy car an jewelry by doing a few very well paid "errands" for him cannot be blamed, but the people who actively exploit these disgusting trades can't be handwaved away as unfortunate products of their enviroments, their VICTIMS are usually those unfortunate products because they are the ones exploited, robbed, beaten, and abused
i mean look at prrimark nikee all these gafs all have expolited kids allegedly, slave labour no one cares really you just dont think about it you cant or it would eat you up![]()
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brilo33 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 15:20i know but the thing is you always get done when you go against the law everyone does ,but thats up to the courts so what im getting at is. is it a moral issue at the moment, bescause if it is, who are the moral police on it , iam older now i dont think like i did as child which i was a far more hardcore and honestly it werent abut flashy nothing it is about respect or being known by someone big because these people are the celebritys , if someone said there is tom crusie when i was kid i would off said the geezer is p.... but there is a local or maybe a world wide bussiness man you would be in ore , look everyone has the same morals when comes to predators , but everything else can be very subjectiveGreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 15:11Christy Kinahan was middle class and made his empire selling poison, so stop it with the Daniel Kinahan made from the streets shitebrilo33 wrote: ↑12 Feb 2021, 19:17 look the thing is people are grown up around crime from birth and have different morals you cant help it , honestly the film another bronx tale explains it well, nil by mouth another good one ,If you live among wolves you have to act like a wolf. prison is where normal good people go ,weirdos go to university ,this is the mentality,even a propper job is kinda frowned appon unless there is benifts what can you take , ,so there is a flip side to the coin ,and some opinions sound so farfetch it sounds absolute nuts ,
yes, the drug crime laws are ripe for exploitation, and wrong
A kid who gets in with the local guy with a fancy car an jewelry by doing a few very well paid "errands" for him cannot be blamed, but the people who actively exploit these disgusting trades can't be handwaved away as unfortunate products of their enviroments, their VICTIMS are usually those unfortunate products because they are the ones exploited, robbed, beaten, and abused
i mean look at prrimark nikee all these gafs all have expolited kids allegedly, slave labour no one cares really you just dont think about it you cant or it would eat you up
This is true for drug illegality, legalise it and we won;t have to buy shit deals cut with twigs and bits of acorn. Criminilisation doesn't work and it just leaves addicts thrown in jail with criminal records for having a small bit of crack in their pocket. Legalise it, regulate it heavily, tax it, take it out of the hands of the gangsters, prohibition all overagain.
Legalizing it will provide another liberalizing that will only benefit cartels, big corporations and create an even bigger elite with all involved in the loop as long as you and yours do well. I'm all for it...where do i sign on and off.GreenLightning wrote: ↑21 Feb 2021, 14:46This is true for drug illegality, legalise it and we won;t have to buy shit deals cut with twigs and bits of acorn. Criminilisation doesn't work and it just leaves addicts thrown in jail with criminal records for having a small bit of crack in their pocket. Legalise it, regulate it heavily, tax it, take it out of the hands of the gangsters, prohibition all overagain.
Althought maybe the big companies who would end up patenting it wouldn't be too far from, gangsters themselves I'm sure
but then surley alcohol should be stopped , far more people are in jail because of alcohol especially for violent crime like beating up someone in the street for no reason , i would say alcohol has had huge bad impacted of my life more than any thing, and i ant an alcoholic, ive seen so many people put away because of that in london the city double figures ,so many people make there family life a misery cause of alcohol its unture . i remember dealers going to war over heroin to be honest it was keeped to there selfs yea the skag heads turned the gaf into a dive but no more than home life with alcoholGreenLightning wrote: ↑21 Feb 2021, 14:39brilo33 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 15:20i know but the thing is you always get done when you go against the law everyone does ,but thats up to the courts so what im getting at is. is it a moral issue at the moment, bescause if it is, who are the moral police on it , iam older now i dont think like i did as child which i was a far more hardcore and honestly it werent abut flashy nothing it is about respect or being known by someone big because these people are the celebritys , if someone said there is tom crusie when i was kid i would off said the geezer is p.... but there is a local or maybe a world wide bussiness man you would be in ore , look everyone has the same morals when comes to predators , but everything else can be very subjectiveGreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 15:11
Christy Kinahan was middle class and made his empire selling poison, so stop it with the Daniel Kinahan made from the streets shite
yes, the drug crime laws are ripe for exploitation, and wrong
A kid who gets in with the local guy with a fancy car an jewelry by doing a few very well paid "errands" for him cannot be blamed, but the people who actively exploit these disgusting trades can't be handwaved away as unfortunate products of their enviroments, their VICTIMS are usually those unfortunate products because they are the ones exploited, robbed, beaten, and abused
i mean look at prrimark nikee all these gafs all have expolited kids allegedly, slave labour no one cares really you just dont think about it you cant or it would eat you up
They need to be stopped, morally, because they flood the streets with poison, lots, and lotsof it, they make money off socities most vulnerable and ths has consequences in all of our communties, many many people being executed across international countries.
It is up to the laws to be changed for sure, but right now ,Daniel Kinahan is the threat, we can deal with the rest of the joke system after this humiliation is over, Veronica Guerins murder cracked down heavy on the drugs gangs because of the threats and brutal nature of her assassination, Kinahan has to go, one way or another
Kinahan now is the John Gilligan of his day, too much attention for being too stupid and greedy and trigger happy
Ever heard of Al Capone? That gigantic feud was over alcohol and many people were murdered, because alcohol was banned. Drugs need to be legalised or decriminalize with robust systems of support for those who develops problemsbrilo33 wrote: ↑05 Mar 2021, 18:19but then surley alcohol should be stopped , far more people are in jail because of alcohol especially for violent crime like beating up someone in the street for no reason , i would say alcohol has had huge bad impacted of my life more than any thing, and i ant an alcoholic, ive seen so many people put away because of that in london the city double figures ,so many people make there family life a misery cause of alcohol its unture . i remember dealers going to war over heroin to be honest it was keeped to there selfs yea the skag heads turned the gaf into a dive but no more than home life with alcoholGreenLightning wrote: ↑21 Feb 2021, 14:39brilo33 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 15:20 i know but the thing is you always get done when you go against the law everyone does ,but thats up to the courts so what im getting at is. is it a moral issue at the moment, bescause if it is, who are the moral police on it , iam older now i dont think like i did as child which i was a far more hardcore and honestly it werent abut flashy nothing it is about respect or being known by someone big because these people are the celebritys , if someone said there is tom crusie when i was kid i would off said the geezer is p.... but there is a local or maybe a world wide bussiness man you would be in ore , look everyone has the same morals when comes to predators , but everything else can be very subjective
i mean look at prrimark nikee all these gafs all have expolited kids allegedly, slave labour no one cares really you just dont think about it you cant or it would eat you up
They need to be stopped, morally, because they flood the streets with poison, lots, and lotsof it, they make money off socities most vulnerable and ths has consequences in all of our communties, many many people being executed across international countries.
It is up to the laws to be changed for sure, but right now ,Daniel Kinahan is the threat, we can deal with the rest of the joke system after this humiliation is over, Veronica Guerins murder cracked down heavy on the drugs gangs because of the threats and brutal nature of her assassination, Kinahan has to go, one way or another
Kinahan now is the John Gilligan of his day, too much attention for being too stupid and greedy and trigger happy
i know to be honest i am playing devil's advocate a bit because i agree with you on most things ,but one thing i stick by is it shouldnt be put on boxing fans, the gardi or goverment should do there jobs , and not making decent people feel guilty about watching sportGreenLightning wrote: ↑05 Mar 2021, 20:00Ever heard of Al Capone? That gigantic feud was over alcohol and many people were murdered, because alcohol was banned. Drugs need to be legalised or decriminalize with robust systems of support for those who develops problemsbrilo33 wrote: ↑05 Mar 2021, 18:19but then surley alcohol should be stopped , far more people are in jail because of alcohol especially for violent crime like beating up someone in the street for no reason , i would say alcohol has had huge bad impacted of my life more than any thing, and i ant an alcoholic, ive seen so many people put away because of that in london the city double figures ,so many people make there family life a misery cause of alcohol its unture . i remember dealers going to war over heroin to be honest it was keeped to there selfs yea the skag heads turned the gaf into a dive but no more than home life with alcoholGreenLightning wrote: ↑21 Feb 2021, 14:39
They need to be stopped, morally, because they flood the streets with poison, lots, and lotsof it, they make money off socities most vulnerable and ths has consequences in all of our communties, many many people being executed across international countries.
It is up to the laws to be changed for sure, but right now ,Daniel Kinahan is the threat, we can deal with the rest of the joke system after this humiliation is over, Veronica Guerins murder cracked down heavy on the drugs gangs because of the threats and brutal nature of her assassination, Kinahan has to go, one way or another
Kinahan now is the John Gilligan of his day, too much attention for being too stupid and greedy and trigger happy
Probably the way they used Fury constantly throughout the programme as though he’s the only fighter to deal with them.maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2021, 05:10 I saw an interview with FWarren yesterday - he’s got his lawyers involved and is suing Panorama.
I’m not quite sure why but he doesn’t need much excuse to get his lawyers involved. At least it’s not a fighter he’s going after this time.
mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2021, 05:12Probably the way they used Fury constantly throughout the programme as though he’s the only fighter to deal with them.maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2021, 05:10 I saw an interview with FWarren yesterday - he’s got his lawyers involved and is suing Panorama.
I’m not quite sure why but he doesn’t need much excuse to get his lawyers involved. At least it’s not a fighter he’s going after this time.
I take it they'll be wanting payment in advancemaverick23 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2021, 05:10 I saw an interview with FWarren yesterday - he’s got his lawyers involved and is suing Panorama.
I’m not quite sure why but he doesn’t need much excuse to get his lawyers involved. At least it’s not a fighter he’s going after this time.