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Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:34
by paddy chavez
stevec@france wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:30
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:26
stevec@france wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:17
its really cynical to have built the entire game plan around illegal low blows rather than try and make a real fight and KO the guy like he said he would .
If you've been outboxed then land a body shot that had your opponent disabled for minutes surely you'd carry on with that tactic ...it's a no brainer
yes its a no brainer but also tells me dd knew he couldnt win fairly ie within the rules
Why ? The punch seemed legal to the majority so why change ?
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:40
by margaret thatcher
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:41
by joshj909
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:34
stevec@france wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:30
paddy chavez wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:26
If you've been outboxed then land a body shot that had your opponent disabled for minutes surely you'd carry on with that tactic ...it's a no brainer
yes its a no brainer but also tells me dd knew he couldnt win fairly ie within the rules
Why ? The punch seemed legal to the majority so why change ?
Did you just decide the majority?
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:43
by jwfg
It's so high, it almost hits him in the face.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 20:20
by nmhz
stevec@france wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:14
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:10
Dubois landed a lot of low blows in that fight. At least one on the thigh. I genuinely think it was part of the plan.
thing is he gobbed off about winning by any means and so the refs / judges would have been on alert .
Yeah he said he was going to fight "rough with elbows and everything" in an interview this week. Only the ref can answer the low blow question, Usyk only rested because the ref instructed him so.
But there is no confusion Dub took a knee for the 10 count when it looked like he could have stood up and continued
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 21:42
by tigermoth87
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:29
dubois won maybe one round, another usyk fight where people are overly hysterical
Like "ChIsOrA tOoK hIm tO tHe LiMiT" said by mouth breathing boxing fans who likely have Jake Paul and KSI as their favorite boxers.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 21:55
by margaret thatcher
tigermoth87 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 21:42
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:29
dubois won maybe one round, another usyk fight where people are overly hysterical
Like "ChIsOrA tOoK hIm tO tHe LiMiT" said by mouth breathing boxing fans who likely have Jake Paul and KSI as their favorite boxers.
ya very similar to the bizarre chisora reaction
dubs won 1 round, got dropped twice, and stopped. his biggest moment was a foul. aj did far better in the rematch (still clearly losing) than dubs did here.
ive also seen people moaning about the count, ffs dubs kept himself down for 9.5 and clearly wanted no more
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 22:39
by tigermoth87
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 21:55
tigermoth87 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 21:42
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:29
dubois won maybe one round, another usyk fight where people are overly hysterical
Like "ChIsOrA tOoK hIm tO tHe LiMiT" said by mouth breathing boxing fans who likely have Jake Paul and KSI as their favorite boxers.
ya very similar to the bizarre chisora reaction
dubs won 1 round, got dropped twice, and stopped. his biggest moment was a foul. aj did far better in the rematch (still clearly losing) than dubs did here.
ive also seen people moaning about the count, ffs dubs kept himself down for 9.5 and clearly wanted no more
This is what happens when you start making YouTubers having boxing fights a big deal and treating them like a legit sporting contest. You start attracting moronic fans who think someone landing a flurry on the other guys gloves is "winning" or don't understand what a low blow is.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 22:49
by coneye
2 things were established last night . People were taught the rules regarding a low blow , its a blow below the band , such has DD hit Usyk with , no debate whatsoever it was below the band which was not worn too high either ,
and once again DD got hit with a jab took the longest count he could whilst all the time looking at the ref with a please save me look , ,
Suppose a third is , Usyks weakness is the body
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:32
by grannyman
coneye wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 22:49
2 things were established last night . People were taught the rules regarding a low blow , its a blow below the band , such has DD hit Usyk with , no debate whatsoever it was below the band which was not worn too high either ,
and once again DD got hit with a jab took the longest count he could whilst all the time looking at the ref with a please save me look , ,
Suppose a third is , Usyks weakness is the body
So is on the band below the band?
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:37
by Delta Jay
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:52
grannyman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:48
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:47
Have you ever been in a boxing ring and been punched really hard in the protective equipment?
Nope. But I wouldn’t hold my balls.
When you get hit in the protector as hard as DDD hits, the whole thing moves. It bloody hurts, man.
Came here to say this. The whole thing pulls up and scrunches ye ballax up high. I don’t know how hurt he really was or if it was mind games taking that long. But them shots HURT
One clear winner for me and no controversy. But that’s boxing baby, tongues will wag!
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:39
by Delta Jay
Worst I’ve ever seen Usyk and best I’ve ever seen Dubois. Based on that, Fury would batter him I think. Tyson isn’t soft and he’ll watch that and know exactly what to do, I imagine he’ll be suddenly much easier to negotiate with
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:41
by margaret thatcher
im not sure what id call dub's best performance, but i didnt give him a round of tthat fight.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:43
by tigermoth87
Delta Jay wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 03:39
Worst I’ve ever seen Usyk and best I’ve ever seen Dubois. Based on that, Fury would batter him I think. Tyson isn’t soft and he’ll watch that and know exactly what to do, I imagine he’ll be suddenly much easier to negotiate with
Usyk won it comfortable, winning every round and without even needing to step out of first gear. He treated it like a sparring session and clowned Dubois.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:44
by DrDuke
Dub landed only one decent punch, that controversial blow. He looked clueless for all time. That was a bad performance. Usyk looked good, since he didn't give Dub chances.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:46
by Delta Jay
tigermoth87 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 03:43
Delta Jay wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 03:39
Worst I’ve ever seen Usyk and best I’ve ever seen Dubois. Based on that, Fury would batter him I think. Tyson isn’t soft and he’ll watch that and know exactly what to do, I imagine he’ll be suddenly much easier to negotiate with
Usyk won it comfortable, winning every round and without even needing to step out of first gear. He treated it like a sparring session and clowned Dubois.
Yeah I agree with every word there. Still worst I’ve seen Usyk. A lot of people on twitter clutching at straws I think. I never had any doubts aba the result. I was in town with Deadpan and I was wasted but it was obvious from the start.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:48
by Delta Jay
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 03:41
im not sure what id call dub's best performance, but i didnt give him a round of tthat fight.
Yeah, but he did better than i thought he would
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:51
by margaret thatcher
grannyman wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 03:32
coneye wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 22:49
2 things were established last night . People were taught the rules regarding a low blow , its a blow below the band , such has DD hit Usyk with , no debate whatsoever it was below the band which was not worn too high either ,
and once again DD got hit with a jab took the longest count he could whilst all the time looking at the ref with a please save me look , ,
Suppose a third is , Usyks weakness is the body
So is on the band below the band?
why do you say stuff like this when the entire scoring area of his glove is below the belt ? his glove nearly goes as low as the bottom of the map on usyk's left trunk leg
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 04:06
by IrishGuy
That picture is the one a millisecond after, the picture when usyks hand is higher the punch has landed higher, then as impact and follow throw happen usyks other hand comes down on top of dubois glove and it looks lower, but post initial impact
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 04:08
by margaret thatcher
there;s been a bunch of different photos , all of them feature usyk getting hit below his beltline
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 04:18
by gregregegg
IrishGuy wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 04:06
That picture is the one a millisecond after, the picture when usyks hand is higher the punch has landed higher, then as impact and follow throw happen usyks other hand comes down on top of dubois glove and it looks lower, but post initial impact
Not true, iv been through the frame by frame myself. That picture is as it lands befor it slides up.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 04:27
by joshj909
Also, does it even matter where the initial impact is? If it slides below it's still a low blow right? (Even though the initial impact is still low)
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 04:30
by jwfg
IrishGuy wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 04:06
That picture is the one a millisecond after, the picture when usyks hand is higher the punch has landed higher, then as impact and follow throw happen usyks other hand comes down on top of dubois glove and it looks lower, but post initial impact
Nonsense.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:13
by funso banjo baby
All in all the three recent heavyweight bills have been a truly dull affair.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:19
by Gran Hermano
funso banjo baby wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:13
All in all the three recent heavyweight bills have been a truly dull affair.
Thought it was decent enough last night. Dubois did better than expected but showed his true mentality when he didn’t want to get up. Would not mind a rematch if Fury still doesnt want to fight next though.