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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 28 Oct 2018, 07:29
by Ruthless-RKO
Rob3_142 wrote: 28 Oct 2018, 05:25
Problem is, Fury lacks the ring intelligence to change things up, and continued with the same tactic since the second round. I think Pulev is EBU level, so Fury might not even be at that level.
Pulev was Euro level years ago. He’s above that. You have to think the Euro guys now.

Even them are tough fights. But not as experienced as Pulev.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 28 Oct 2018, 07:30
by jamamb
guys on the ebu scene now are guys like kabayel, wallin, rovcanin , granat, faded helenius, a faded dimitrenko who pulev dominated and stopped years ago, etc. chisora fought for the ebu less then a year ago too, and of course pulev handily beat chisora as well

id say pulev is not an elite fighter but still easily world top 10 and above ebu level

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 28 Oct 2018, 19:40
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 28 Oct 2018, 19:50
by ElJefe
handsofstone wrote: 27 Oct 2018, 19:12 That was absolute aids that, I had Pulev 117-111, terrible fight, both guys were awful and their timing and accuracy was minging, Hughie reminds me of Bugner, decent skillset but just hasn't got whats required to step it up when needed, bad start getting cut like that from a jab, on the eyelid too that's usually a finisher straight away but it held up well, where was Shades of Ali? zero jab just holding out the left all night and throwing piss poor predictable right hands over the top which sailed over the heads of Pulev just about every time although he did hurt him in the 8th with it, missed with about 100 others, lay on the ropes too much trying to draw Pulev in but as I said far too predictable, the holding from both men was relentless, every single exchange finished with a hug

Messy as fvck as well Pulev's punches landed weren't all that either but he was seen to be pressing, the ref was shite, the camera cutaways mid round were disgraceful, just a shite fight all round, Fury's tactics and timings were non existent, Joshua will smash Pulev to smithereens
This is how I saw it. Shite fight. Hughie offered nothing other than those telegraphed overhand rights then ended in a clinch. I understand that he's young in HW terms but if he hasn't learned to throw a proper straight right hand by now (or a jab of any description) then I can't see him progressing beyond European level. Losing to Pulev is no disgrace, he's a top 10 HW - but that performance showed a number of serious shortcomings.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 29 Oct 2018, 06:16
by Ruthless-RKO
Tyson tweeted: "Well done in the Pulev fight. You can only do your best & @24 years old fighting the top level fighters in the world it’s amazing achievements. You will come back stronger & more experienced! Chin up cuz proud of you!"

Nice tweet from Tyson.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 29 Oct 2018, 07:03
by nitro5912
Hughie looked extremely amateurish at times. What is it about holding his left out like he is using like my big brother done to stop me running at him.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 29 Oct 2018, 07:40
by Ruthless-RKO
nitro5912 wrote: 29 Oct 2018, 07:03 Hughie looked extremely amateurish at times. What is it about holding his left out like he is using like my big brother done to stop me running at him.
He even windmilled a few times. Shades of Wilder.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 29 Oct 2018, 08:36
by PredatorHayds
The problem with Fury was that he was light on his feet, he used his height and reach well but never sat down on his punches.

He was the opposite in this. Looked heavy, used hardky zero movement and just kept winging in in-accurate lazy right hands.

What was the game plan?

It was the equivalent of having a reliable Ferrari but deciding to take it off-roading in the mud.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 03:43
by mickey1975
Tyson seems to be getting a lot of very positive publicity for this fight, especially in America. The Rogan podcast helped a lot. It was brilliant.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 04:20
by Exoddus
nitro5912 wrote: 29 Oct 2018, 07:03 Hughie looked extremely amateurish at times. What is it about holding his left out like he is using like my big brother done to stop me running at him.
That's what tall fighters do that are too scared to throw the jab. They use it to judge the distance against a shorter opponent.

Seen it a million times but they never break the habit. Just go watch one of Audley Harrison's fights and you'll see another example of it.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 04:42
by Coco
PredatorHayds wrote: 29 Oct 2018, 08:36 The problem with Fury was that he was light on his feet, he used his height and reach well but never sat down on his punches.

He was the opposite in this. Looked heavy, used hardky zero movement and just kept winging in in-accurate lazy right hands.

What was the game plan?

It was the equivalent of having a reliable Ferrari but deciding to take it off-roading in the mud.
I think Hughie should stick to what he is good at. He is not a banger

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 04:52
by Boxerbeetle
Exoddus wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 04:20
nitro5912 wrote: 29 Oct 2018, 07:03 Hughie looked extremely amateurish at times. What is it about holding his left out like he is using like my big brother done to stop me running at him.
That's what tall fighters do that are too scared to throw the jab. They use it to judge the distance against a shorter opponent.

Seen it a million times but they never break the habit. Just go watch one of Audley Harrison's fights and you'll see another example of it.
And who could forget Pricey. It’s so frustrating, those guys should be using the jab as a ramrod, not pawing it out.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 05:08
by jamamb
mickey1975 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 03:43 Tyson seems to be getting a lot of very positive publicity for this fight, especially in America. The Rogan podcast helped a lot. It was brilliant.
tysons getting a lot of very positive publicity for hughie being 9-3'd by pulev?

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 05:32
by Ruthless-RKO
jamamb wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 05:08
mickey1975 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 03:43 Tyson seems to be getting a lot of very positive publicity for this fight, especially in America. The Rogan podcast helped a lot. It was brilliant.
tysons getting a lot of very positive publicity for hughie being 9-3'd by pulev?
Must have posted in the wrong thread.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 14:41
by Ruthless-RKO
Just in case anyone was wondering, the telecast on Channel 5 averaged 1,162,000 viewers. Not sure what it peaked.

This average was lower than the Sexton fight, which was a stoppage in half way through the fight. The Sexton fight also peaked 2.9m viewers.

Goes to show, really.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 17:10
by Rob3_142
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Nov 2018, 14:41 Just in case anyone was wondering, the telecast on Channel 5 averaged 1,162,000 viewers. Not sure what it peaked.

This average was lower than the Sexton fight, which was a stoppage in half way through the fight. The Sexton fight also peaked 2.9m viewers.

Goes to show, really.
What channel was the Sexton fight again? Youtube?

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 17:16
by MattCoke
Rob3_142 wrote: 20 Nov 2018, 17:10
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Nov 2018, 14:41 Just in case anyone was wondering, the telecast on Channel 5 averaged 1,162,000 viewers. Not sure what it peaked.

This average was lower than the Sexton fight, which was a stoppage in half way through the fight. The Sexton fight also peaked 2.9m viewers.

Goes to show, really.
What channel was the Sexton fight again? Youtube?
Channel 5, fury-Parker was YouTube ppv.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 17:55
by mickey1975
Much more than Ajs numbers then?

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 17:59
by Ruthless-RKO
MattCoke wrote: 20 Nov 2018, 17:16
Rob3_142 wrote: 20 Nov 2018, 17:10
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Nov 2018, 14:41 Just in case anyone was wondering, the telecast on Channel 5 averaged 1,162,000 viewers. Not sure what it peaked.

This average was lower than the Sexton fight, which was a stoppage in half way through the fight. The Sexton fight also peaked 2.9m viewers.

Goes to show, really.
What channel was the Sexton fight again? Youtube?
Channel 5, fury-Parker was YouTube ppv.
Yeh. Hughie vs. Sexton was Mick Hennessy’s Channel 5 return.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 20 Nov 2018, 18:01
by Ruthless-RKO
mickey1975 wrote: 20 Nov 2018, 17:55 Much more than Ajs numbers then?
Yeh. But you have to buy AJ’a fights.

An average fight on regular Sky averaged around 300k, and that’s Khan, Brook etc.

AJ would easily get over 1 million views on regular Sky and probably nearly 10 million on Channel 5.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 21 Nov 2018, 01:43
by nitro5912
mickey1975 wrote: 20 Nov 2018, 17:55 Much more than Ajs numbers then?
You cannot compare the 2.

One is on free tv, one you have to pay £20 for.

V Parker AJ had 1.4million buys at 20quid.

Comparing Hughie to that would be his YouTube fight which was a disaster.

How many would AJ get if on free TV? And by free I mean not sky, ppv or BT sport?

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 21 Nov 2018, 04:05
by Ruthless-RKO
nitro5912 wrote: 21 Nov 2018, 01:43
mickey1975 wrote: 20 Nov 2018, 17:55 Much more than Ajs numbers then?
You cannot compare the 2.

One is on free tv, one you have to pay £20 for.

V Parker AJ had 1.4million buys at 20quid.

Comparing Hughie to that would be his YouTube fight which was a disaster.

How many would AJ get if on free TV? And by free I mean not sky, ppv or BT sport?
I explained this very thing on my above post.

By the way, Joshua vs. Parker did not do 1.4m buys. That figure was taken from BARB, which counts average weekly viewership.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 21 Nov 2018, 04:29
by mickey1975
So half?

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 21 Nov 2018, 05:02
by Ruthless-RKO
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Nov 2018, 04:29So half?
I'm thinking more around the 1 million mark.

the 1.4 figure is a weekly channel viewing of Sky Sports Box Office channel, so that figure would likely be the people that bought it and then anyone of them that tuned in to the replays.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury - 27 October 2018

Posted: 21 Nov 2018, 05:43
by keithmoonhangover
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Nov 2018, 05:02
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Nov 2018, 04:29So half?
I'm thinking more around the 1 million mark.

the 1.4 figure is a weekly channel viewing of Sky Sports Box Office channel, so that figure would likely be the people that bought it and then anyone of them that tuned in to the replays.
That's interesting. How many buys do you think WIlder-Fury will do on BT? I can't see it doing more than 250k.