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Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:29**

brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:22
oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:18
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:15

i would take a champion boxer over a champion kickboxer any day, remind me what skills does conor mcgregor have again
He wasn't allowed to kick vs FMJ. What kind of a comment was that? LMFAO!
what you chatting about, i meant conor is at the top of mma and he aint a kick boxer, his left hand is his weapon ,

Sure seems you think FMJ beats Connor in a kickboxing match. Surely you don't think Connor is without leg striking skills.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:35**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:24
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:15
oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:06
Never.
i would take a champion boxer over a champion kickboxer any day, remind me what skills does conor mcgregor have again
I hope you mean at Boxing.

If you mean at Kickboxing. That's just kooky talk.

There have been Boxers that have found success crossing over into Kickboxing, and there have been Kickboxers who found success crossing over into Boxing, but usually their success in the sport that's not their best isn't nearly the same. In fact always.

i mean in a fight , a straightener not kick boxing rules, i would back a boxer to beat a kick boxer, and i meant look at the ufc conor mc is more or less a boxer and is number 1 ,

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:39**

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:29
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:22
oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:18
He wasn't allowed to kick vs FMJ. What kind of a comment was that? LMFAO!
what you chatting about, i meant conor is at the top of mma and he aint a kick boxer, his left hand is his weapon ,
Sure seems you think FMJ beats Connor in a kickboxing match. Surely you don't think Connor is without leg striking skills.

you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:46**

brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:35
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:24
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:15

i would take a champion boxer over a champion kickboxer any day, remind me what skills does conor mcgregor have again
I hope you mean at Boxing.

If you mean at Kickboxing. That's just kooky talk.

There have been Boxers that have found success crossing over into Kickboxing, and there have been Kickboxers who found success crossing over into Boxing, but usually their success in the sport that's not their best isn't nearly the same. In fact always.
i mean in a fight , a straightener not kick boxing rules, i would back a boxer to beat a kick boxer, and i meant look at the ufc conor mc is more or less a boxer and is number 1 ,

A Street fight?

If they're both Top guys in their respective sport I'd favor the Kickboxer to win 80% of the time. The Boxer could always land that big punch first so you can't rule it out, but the Kickboxer has more tools at his disposal to do major damage.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:46**

brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39
oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:29
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:22

what you chatting about, i meant conor is at the top of mma and he aint a kick boxer, his left hand is his weapon ,
Sure seems you think FMJ beats Connor in a kickboxing match. Surely you don't think Connor is without leg striking skills.
you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him

I get what you're saying, I just don't buy into your triangulation. I'd take a kickboxer over a boxer any day.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:47**

brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39
oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:29
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:22

what you chatting about, i meant conor is at the top of mma and he aint a kick boxer, his left hand is his weapon ,
Sure seems you think FMJ beats Connor in a kickboxing match. Surely you don't think Connor is without leg striking skills.
you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him

He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.

If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:48**

brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:35
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:24
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:15

i would take a champion boxer over a champion kickboxer any day, remind me what skills does conor mcgregor have again
I hope you mean at Boxing.

If you mean at Kickboxing. That's just kooky talk.

There have been Boxers that have found success crossing over into Kickboxing, and there have been Kickboxers who found success crossing over into Boxing, but usually their success in the sport that's not their best isn't nearly the same. In fact always.
i mean in a fight , a straightener not kick boxing rules, i would back a boxer to beat a kick boxer, and i meant look at the ufc conor mc is more or less a boxer and is number 1 ,

he's not number 1 is he?

and he knows how to block kicks, knees, etc...that makes a big difference. has been training in that for years and years, boxers havent

a pure boxer has absolutely no background in dealing with getting kicked, kneed, elbowed. the clinch game is totally different too vs a kickboxer.....they can batter the f@ck out of you there as well, even if you've locked both their arms

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:49**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:47
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39
oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:29
Sure seems you think FMJ beats Connor in a kickboxing match. Surely you don't think Connor is without leg striking skills.
you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.

If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.

why not though, the money is there why arent kick boxers there

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:50**

imagine floyd trying to shoulder roll vs a guy who is just gonna kick his legs out or push kick him halfway across the ring

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:51**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:47
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39
oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:29
Sure seems you think FMJ beats Connor in a kickboxing match. Surely you don't think Connor is without leg striking skills.
you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.

If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.

but you see how kick boxers fight , they cant throw a punch, you can see when there throwing a kick you move out of strike range or pivet there screwd there following through no matter what, nah boxer beats kick boxer any day

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:52**

brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:49
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:47
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39

you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.

If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.
why not though, the money is there why arent kick boxers there

It's a different sport. An Elite Kickboxer doesn't just come into the UFC, and immediately get a shot at Conor McGregor. If they did I'm sure quite a few of them would've taken a crack at it by now.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:52**

much easier to get out of the way of an arm than a leg

if a good kickboxer was committed to leg kicking a boxer, what is the boxer gonna do? a shoulder roll, ducking ,etc aint gonna do sh!t, and a leg can reach you from much longer than a punch can

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:53**

brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:51
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:47
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39

you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.

If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.
but you see how kick boxers fight , they cant throw a punch, you can see when there throwing a kick you move out of strike range or pivet there screwd there following through no matter what, nah boxer beats kick boxer any day

In the clinches a boxer can't do much. In the clinches a Kickboxer can knee or elbow the f*ck out of you (Just knee if it's European rules)

A Boxer wouldn't even get into range to throw his best punches easily. He'd be eating leg kicks all the way in, and losing his balance.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:54**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:52 much easier to get out of the way of an arm than a leg

LOL! You stay outside of kicking distance you are further outside punching distance. Silly argument here. Imagine Bill Superfoot Wallace vs FMJ.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:54**

exactly, kickboxers simply have far more tools to work with, it's just boxer denial to say otherwise

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:54**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:48
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:35
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:24

I hope you mean at Boxing.

If you mean at Kickboxing. That's just kooky talk.

There have been Boxers that have found success crossing over into Kickboxing, and there have been Kickboxers who found success crossing over into Boxing, but usually their success in the sport that's not their best isn't nearly the same. In fact always.
i mean in a fight , a straightener not kick boxing rules, i would back a boxer to beat a kick boxer, and i meant look at the ufc conor mc is more or less a boxer and is number 1 ,
he's not number 1 is he?

and he knows how to block kicks, knees, etc...that makes a big difference. has been training in that for years and years, boxers havent

a pure boxer has absolutely no background in dealing with getting kicked, kneed, elbowed. the clinch game is totally different too vs a kickboxer.....they can batter the f@ck out of you there as well, even if you've locked both their arms

more or less number 1 and i think keybeeb has left so, you ever watch a kick boxer fight, go on stick triple g or nigle benn while there lining up there kick, callum smith beat that dutch kick boxer in the boxing super seires

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:55**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:52 much easier to get out of the way of an arm than a leg

if a good kickboxer was committed to leg kicking a boxer, what is the boxer gonna do? a shoulder roll, ducking ,etc aint gonna do sh!t, and a leg can reach you from much longer than a punch can

Or kick him at his sides where you're gonna kick his arms. Make his arms sore as f*ck, you're gonna take an awful lot of steam off of any punches.

You could even potentially break their arms.

It's been done before.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:56**

lol callum beat that guy in a boxing match

the kicks arent telegraphed from miles out, good kickboxers can just wip them out quickly. do you even watch any kickboxing bruh

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:56**

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:54
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:52 much easier to get out of the way of an arm than a leg
LOL! You stay outside of kicking distance you are further outside punching distance. Silly argument here. Imagine Bill Superfoot Wallace vs FMJ.

Hell I'll do you one better. Raymond Daniels. I don't think he's a World Champion Kickboxer, but he's damn good, and he's a Middleweight, he'd probably f*ck up most Heavyweight Boxers if you put 'em in there with him.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:57**

brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:54
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:48
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:35

i mean in a fight , a straightener not kick boxing rules, i would back a boxer to beat a kick boxer, and i meant look at the ufc conor mc is more or less a boxer and is number 1 ,
he's not number 1 is he?

and he knows how to block kicks, knees, etc...that makes a big difference. has been training in that for years and years, boxers havent

a pure boxer has absolutely no background in dealing with getting kicked, kneed, elbowed. the clinch game is totally different too vs a kickboxer.....they can batter the f@ck out of you there as well, even if you've locked both their arms
more or less number 1 and i think keybeeb has left so, you ever watch a kick boxer fight, go on stick triple g or nigle benn while there lining up there kick, callum smith beat that dutch kick boxer in the boxing super seires

In a Boxing match, and he only managed to win by Decision. Make it a Kickboxing match and Callum gets knocked out.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 22:58**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:53
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:51
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:47

He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.

If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.
but you see how kick boxers fight , they cant throw a punch, you can see when there throwing a kick you move out of strike range or pivet there screwd there following through no matter what, nah boxer beats kick boxer any day
In the clinches a boxer can't do much. In the clinches a Kickboxer can knee or elbow the f*ck out of you (Just knee if it's European rules)

A Boxer wouldn't even get into range to throw his best punches easily. He'd be eating leg kicks all the way in, and losing his balance.

thats different though , i would not be expexcting a boxer to be fighting a kick boxers game, i think people are getting me miss unterstood , i dont mean a boxer to fight like a kickboxer as in holding and shin kicking ,elbows brutal leg kicks, i mean in and out

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 23:03**

brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:58
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:53
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:51
but you see how kick boxers fight , they cant throw a punch, you can see when there throwing a kick you move out of strike range or pivet there screwd there following through no matter what, nah boxer beats kick boxer any day
In the clinches a boxer can't do much. In the clinches a Kickboxer can knee or elbow the f*ck out of you (Just knee if it's European rules)

A Boxer wouldn't even get into range to throw his best punches easily. He'd be eating leg kicks all the way in, and losing his balance.
thats different though , i would not be expexcting a boxer to be fighting a kick boxers game, i think people are getting me miss unterstood , i dont mean a boxer to fight like a kickboxer as in holding and shin kicking ,elbows brutal leg kicks, i mean in and out

He'd have no choice but to fight the kickboxers game.

You think a boxer is gonna jab his way in without eating a kick first? Legs are WAY longer than arms bro. You ever taken a good look at the human body?

Kickboxers ain't slow with them kicks either homes.

If the Boxer keeps running and avoiding, the Kickboxer can corner him, grab him and proceed to knee the f*ck out of him.

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 23:06**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:56 lol callum beat that guy in a boxing match

the kicks arent telegraphed from miles out, good kickboxers can just wip them out quickly. do you even watch any kickboxing bruh

i have indeed . and i enjoy kicking in a fight too, but iam sorry a boxer is a better all round fighter than a kick boxer, there is no way a kick boxer will walk down mayweather , there movment aint great as there always looking to throw a kick which means what ,means the other leg has to be on the ground

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 23:08**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 23:03
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:58
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:53

In the clinches a boxer can't do much. In the clinches a Kickboxer can knee or elbow the f*ck out of you (Just knee if it's European rules)

A Boxer wouldn't even get into range to throw his best punches easily. He'd be eating leg kicks all the way in, and losing his balance.
thats different though , i would not be expexcting a boxer to be fighting a kick boxers game, i think people are getting me miss unterstood , i dont mean a boxer to fight like a kickboxer as in holding and shin kicking ,elbows brutal leg kicks, i mean in and out
He'd have no choice but to fight the kickboxers game.

You think a boxer is gonna jab his way in without eating a kick first? Legs are WAY longer than arms bro. You ever taken a good look at the human body?

Kickboxers ain't slow with them kicks either homes.

If the Boxer keeps running and avoiding, the Kickboxer can corner him, grab him and proceed to knee the f*ck out of him.

how many people grabbed up mayweather , also they move about like flemingos

Posted: **31 Dec 2020, 23:10**

brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 23:08
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 23:03
brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:58

thats different though , i would not be expexcting a boxer to be fighting a kick boxers game, i think people are getting me miss unterstood , i dont mean a boxer to fight like a kickboxer as in holding and shin kicking ,elbows brutal leg kicks, i mean in and out
He'd have no choice but to fight the kickboxers game.

You think a boxer is gonna jab his way in without eating a kick first? Legs are WAY longer than arms bro. You ever taken a good look at the human body?

Kickboxers ain't slow with them kicks either homes.

If the Boxer keeps running and avoiding, the Kickboxer can corner him, grab him and proceed to knee the f*ck out of him.
how many people grabbed up mayweather , also they move about like flemingos

I'm done with you on this bro. You've clearly never watched Kickboxing. You're coming across as painfully ignorant in this discussion, and I'll spare you from embarrassing yourself any further.

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