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Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:24

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:07 I'm not sure if it's the layoff that'll effect him so much as the fact that he doesn't feel he needs to work on or improve anything. I mean Tyson Fury hasn't fought since the rematch either.

A long layoff is more damaging mentally after a devastating loss, though. A confidence-building warm-up fight would help.

But Tyson Fury has recently expressed concern about his own long layoff.

Well hell it goes without saying Wilder will have a confidence building warm up fight. That's what the majority of his career has been. Confidence builders.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:50

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:24

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:07 I'm not sure if it's the layoff that'll effect him so much as the fact that he doesn't feel he needs to work on or improve anything. I mean Tyson Fury hasn't fought since the rematch either.

A long layoff is more damaging mentally after a devastating loss, though. A confidence-building warm-up fight would help.

But Tyson Fury has recently expressed concern about his own long layoff.

Well hell it goes without saying Wilder will have a confidence building warm up fight. That's what the majority of his career has been. Confidence builders.

34 confidence builders at my count. Problem is Gil, he still wants big money to fight anyone, and doesn't realise his stocks have plummeted and no one wants to pay for anything less tha Fury or Joshua.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:50

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:24

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:07 I'm not sure if it's the layoff that'll effect him so much as the fact that he doesn't feel he needs to work on or improve anything. I mean Tyson Fury hasn't fought since the rematch either.

A long layoff is more damaging mentally after a devastating loss, though. A confidence-building warm-up fight would help.

But Tyson Fury has recently expressed concern about his own long layoff.

Well hell it goes without saying Wilder will have a confidence building warm up fight. That's what the majority of his career has been. Confidence builders.

True, but Wilder should have something scheduled or at least in the works by now.

Some say he should fight Charles Martin, I think that would be a relatively easy fight for him. Adam Kownacki is the stationary, easy to hit type of heavyweight Wilder thrives against, and is coming off a stoppage loss. Andy Ruiz has a good chin and would be too dangerous, and Ruiz is going to fight Arreola anyway.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 14:34

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:50

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:24 A long layoff is more damaging mentally after a devastating loss, though. A confidence-building warm-up fight would help.

But Tyson Fury has recently expressed concern about his own long layoff.

Well hell it goes without saying Wilder will have a confidence building warm up fight. That's what the majority of his career has been. Confidence builders.

34 confidence builders at my count. Problem is Gil, he still wants big money to fight anyone, and doesn't realise his stocks have plummeted and no one wants to pay for anything less tha Fury or Joshua.

He's still an Al Haymon fighter. Al Haymon overpays everyone for everything. He'll probably get big money to fight Kownacki or someone like that.

i think he's still rehabilitating his costume shattered knees

I would really like to see wilder vs andy ruiz , this would be a real test for them both but in different ways .

The styles are so very opposed and both can bang but I feel Ruiz would copy what fury did and batter him to the canvas .


I apprecioate they both need rebuild fights next but later this year maybe ...

Wilder will fight twice this year.

He'll initially engage in a tune-up against either Robert Helenius or Charles Martin, before facing Andy Ruiz Jr. towards the end of the year.

I wouldn't be surprised to see both of Wilder (vs. Martin or Helenius) and Ruiz Jr's (vs. Arreola) tune-up's occurring around the same date (perhaps even appearing on the same card) to help promote their eventual end-of-year showdown.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 10:42 Wilder will fight twice this year.

He'll initially engage in a tune-up against either Robert Helenius or Charles Martin, before facing Andy Ruiz Jr. towards the end of the year.

I wouldn't be surprised to see both of Wilder (vs. Martin or Helenius) and Ruiz Jr's (vs. Arreola) tune-up's occurring around the same date (perhaps even appearing on the same card) to help promote their eventual end-of-year showdown.

That would be good for the heavyweight division, if it happens.

But Wilder has a history of being very carefully matched, I doubt his management would put him in with someone as dangerous as Ruiz.

However, I can imagine Wilder being matched against someone easier like Martin or Helenius.

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 20:13

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 10:42 Wilder will fight twice this year.

He'll initially engage in a tune-up against either Robert Helenius or Charles Martin, before facing Andy Ruiz Jr. towards the end of the year.

I wouldn't be surprised to see both of Wilder (vs. Martin or Helenius) and Ruiz Jr's (vs. Arreola) tune-up's occurring around the same date (perhaps even appearing on the same card) to help promote their eventual end-of-year showdown.

That would be good for the heavyweight division, if it happens.

But Wilder has a history of being very carefully matched, I doubt his management would put him in with someone as dangerous as Ruiz.

However, I can imagine Wilder being matched against someone easier like Martin or Helenius.

In order to persuade the mainstream masses that Wilder’s upset loss to Fury was simply a one-off, a rare fluke, he needs to rebuild his reputation by beating one of the heavyweight divisions top-dog’s.

And facing a fellow stablemate like Ruiz Jr. perfectly fits the bill.

He will fight martin
Then when the inevitable stripping of a title happens from joshua/fury he will fight for an open title

stevec@france wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 06:31 I would really like to see wilder vs andy ruiz , this would be a real test for them both but in different ways .

The styles are so very opposed and both can bang but I feel Ruiz would copy what fury did and batter him to the canvas .


I apprecioate they both need rebuild fights next but later this year maybe ...

Both Wilder and Ruiz are done, imo. Ruiz is too lazy and too happy with what he already has, look at his shape in Joshua II fight. Also, he is a one-dimensional fighter. Nobody decent will let him repeat what he did to AJ.

stevec@france wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 06:31 I would really like to see wilder vs andy ruiz , this would be a real test for them both but in different ways .

The styles are so very opposed and both can bang but I feel Ruiz would copy what fury did and batter him to the canvas .


I apprecioate they both need rebuild fights next but later this year maybe ...

Apart from Fury/Joshua, this would be my dream fight at HW right now.

Great contrasting styles; chin v puncher; skill v one dimensional KO artist; fat v thin, etc etc.

Now we are approaching the end of April, and still no fight for Wilder in the works.

Perhaps he's retired?

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 20:58 Now we are approaching the end of April, and still no fight for Wilder in the works.

Perhaps he's retired?

He recently just said he will continue with his career.

who will he be training with now that he ditched that evil spy mark breland?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 22:02 who will he be training with now that he ditched that evil spy mark breland?

I wonder if Charlo will be invited to Deontay's next fight

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 22:01

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 20:58 Now we are approaching the end of April, and still no fight for Wilder in the works.

Perhaps he's retired?

He recently just said he will continue with his career.

Is this another interview with one of his mates?

If he fights again, it'll be someone terrified of him or a PBC stablemate contractually obliged to not chide Wilder for his bad sportsmanship, lack of character and childish, malicious lying. Stick him in with somebody like Dillian Whyte, who's reasonably quick witted and will put it on him and he won't be able to get through a press conference without some sort of meltdown.

I'd imagine his ideal comeback opponent can't speak a word of English and doesn't have a translator.

I'd happily have him back, but he's a heel now with an especially odious fanbase and so people would be tuning in to see him lose. Ironically, it'll probably make him a must watch and no matter how poor the opponent all eyes will be on his return, but he's too feeble minded to have orchestrated it to be that way.

emallini wrote: ↑08 Feb 2021, 12:23 Still a decent chance to KO anyone not named Tyson Fury.

C'mon ! ?
He's a big outsider to beat any of the 2nd tier.
He COULD get back to the top - if he drops a level, stays busy, improves a bit..
Does anyone think he WILL do this ? (No).

I’m hoping he fights Ruiz , and starts as a favourite . Ruiz is going to outlast him.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 05:53 I’m hoping he fights Ruiz , and starts as a favourite . Ruiz is going to outlast him.

Ruiz would be too dangerous.

Old Sam Peter is a more likely opponent.

skanksta wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 05:24

emallini wrote: ↑08 Feb 2021, 12:23 Still a decent chance to KO anyone not named Tyson Fury.

C'mon ! ?
He's a big outsider to beat any of the 2nd tier.
He COULD get back to the top - if he drops a level, stays busy, improves a bit..
Does anyone think he WILL do this ? (No).

Emallini seems a weird poster but I do agree with him here. That guy could knock out anybody if his head isn't too wrecked. If he got himself a good trainer and was battle ready, he's an absolute nightmare for anybody in the top 10.

I don't think he'll fight again though. So it's null and void.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 22:32 He will fight martin
Then when the inevitable stripping of a title happens from joshua/fury he will fight for an open title

Wilder Stiverne III
I shouldn't even joke about that..

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 19:44

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 22:32 He will fight martin
Then when the inevitable stripping of a title happens from joshua/fury he will fight for an open title

Wilder Stiverne III
I shouldn't even joke about that..

Hahaha its been a few months i think stiverne deserves another crack at the title!

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 20:44

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 19:44

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 22:32 He will fight martin
Then when the inevitable stripping of a title happens from joshua/fury he will fight for an open title

Wilder Stiverne III
I shouldn't even joke about that..

Hahaha its been a few months i think stiverne deserves another crack at the title!

Maybe they'll be another Haymon - King hook-up in the form of Trevor Bryan being thrown to the wolves

Finkel wrote: ↑24 Apr 2021, 01:33

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 20:44

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 19:44

Wilder Stiverne III
I shouldn't even joke about that..

Hahaha its been a few months i think stiverne deserves another crack at the title!

Maybe they'll be another Haymon - King hook-up in the form of Trevor Bryan being thrown to the wolves

That seems likely.