Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 31 May 2021, 12:51
I wonder how some people P4P guy Crawford is not HOF guy certainly Spence resume is better.
I did say beat so Pacquaio probably should come off.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 08:30Errol Spence Jr’s (former/current) world champion opposition = Chris Algieri, Kell Brook, Lamont Peterson, Mikey Garcia, Shawn Porter & Danny Garcia.world ranked wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 06:47How many other former world champs did Thurman beat compared to Spence.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 19:41
that is hardly a lock for hof resume
keith thurman beat danny and porter before spence did, beat plenty of other recognizable names too. is he close to hof?
Keith Thurman’s (former:current) world champion opposition = Carlos Quintana, Jan Zaveck, Julio Diaz, Robert Guerrero, Luis Collazo, Shawn Porter, Danny Garcia and Manny Pacquiao.
Better resume than a lot on here not going to go through but Ottke, Chris John, Michalewski, even would debate Ayala, PazEnlightened-One wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 09:48Do you consider Errol Spence Jr’s five title defences to be a greater accomplishment that surpasses the feats achieved by every single fighter listed below?
• Yuri Arbachakov
• Jorge Arce
• Paulie Ayala
• Nigel Benn
• Timothy Bradley
• Vuyani Bungu
• Ivan Calderon
• Joel Casamayor
• Sot Chitalada
• Diego Corrales
• Miguel Cotto
• Chris Eubank
• Carl Froch
• Leo Gamez
• Ricky Hatton
• Genaro Hernandez
• Chris John
• Mikkel Kessler
• Santos Laciar
• Rocky Lockridge
• Miguel “Happy” Lora
• Rafael Marquez
• Henry Maske
• Dariusz Michalczewski
• Sung-Kil Moon
• Michael Moorer
• Orzubek Nazarov
• Sven Ottke
• Vinny Paz
• Gilberto Roman
• Gianfranco Rosi
• Samuel Serrano
• Antonio Tarver
• Meldrick Taylor
• James Toney
• Fernando Vargas
• Israel Vazquez
• Wilfredo Vazquez
• Ratanapol Sor Vorapin
If not, then why did you create this thread?![]()
Every fighter I listed HAS NOT been inducted into the IBHoF.world ranked wrote: ↑31 May 2021, 12:56Better resume than a lot on here not going to go through but Ottke, Chris John, Michalewski, even would debate Ayala, PazEnlightened-One wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 09:48Do you consider Errol Spence Jr’s five title defences to be a greater accomplishment that surpasses the feats achieved by every single fighter listed below?
• Yuri Arbachakov
• Jorge Arce
• Paulie Ayala
• Nigel Benn
• Timothy Bradley
• Vuyani Bungu
• Ivan Calderon
• Joel Casamayor
• Sot Chitalada
• Diego Corrales
• Miguel Cotto
• Chris Eubank
• Carl Froch
• Leo Gamez
• Ricky Hatton
• Genaro Hernandez
• Chris John
• Mikkel Kessler
• Santos Laciar
• Rocky Lockridge
• Miguel “Happy” Lora
• Rafael Marquez
• Henry Maske
• Dariusz Michalczewski
• Sung-Kil Moon
• Michael Moorer
• Orzubek Nazarov
• Sven Ottke
• Vinny Paz
• Gilberto Roman
• Gianfranco Rosi
• Samuel Serrano
• Antonio Tarver
• Meldrick Taylor
• James Toney
• Fernando Vargas
• Israel Vazquez
• Wilfredo Vazquez
• Ratanapol Sor Vorapin
If not, then why did you create this thread?![]()
Why would you name all those guys like some of them will never get into the HOF. Quite a few will at given time. He doesn't have to behind all those guys in no certain order. You also left guys in the HOF who his resume is better than which also helps his case. The thread been a waste of time but you wasting you time responding to it.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 May 2021, 18:12Every fighter I listed HAS NOT been inducted into the IBHoF.world ranked wrote: ↑31 May 2021, 12:56Better resume than a lot on here not going to go through but Ottke, Chris John, Michalewski, even would debate Ayala, PazEnlightened-One wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 09:48
Do you consider Errol Spence Jr’s five title defences to be a greater accomplishment that surpasses the feats achieved by every single fighter listed below?
• Yuri Arbachakov
• Jorge Arce
• Paulie Ayala
• Nigel Benn
• Timothy Bradley
• Vuyani Bungu
• Ivan Calderon
• Joel Casamayor
• Sot Chitalada
• Diego Corrales
• Miguel Cotto
• Chris Eubank
• Carl Froch
• Leo Gamez
• Ricky Hatton
• Genaro Hernandez
• Chris John
• Mikkel Kessler
• Santos Laciar
• Rocky Lockridge
• Miguel “Happy” Lora
• Rafael Marquez
• Henry Maske
• Dariusz Michalczewski
• Sung-Kil Moon
• Michael Moorer
• Orzubek Nazarov
• Sven Ottke
• Vinny Paz
• Gilberto Roman
• Gianfranco Rosi
• Samuel Serrano
• Antonio Tarver
• Meldrick Taylor
• James Toney
• Fernando Vargas
• Israel Vazquez
• Wilfredo Vazquez
• Ratanapol Sor Vorapin
If not, then why did you create this thread?![]()
If you sincerely believe that Spence Jr's resume/accomplishments fails surpass every single one of the names listed above, which is literally what you've just admitted, then you almost certainly believe he's not Hall-of-Fame worthy.
So your counter-argument has back-fired, because you've just ADMITTED that Errol Spence Jr. is DEFINITELY NOT Hall-of-Fame worthy.![]()
It's kind of weird to see someone desperately trying to argue with me, but inadvertently agreeing with me!
It took a while for you to take the bait, but it's good to see you contradicting yourself after finally biting!
So the entire thread (you created) has been a complete waste of time, then?![]()
I listed fighters whose names are listed on the IBHoF ballot every single year, yet fail to get inducted.world ranked wrote: ↑01 Jun 2021, 10:10Why would you name all those guys like some of them will never get into the HOF. Quite a few will at given time. He doesn't have to behind all those guys in no certain order. You also left guys in the HOF who his resume is better than which also helps his case. The thread been a waste of time but you wasting you time responding to it.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 May 2021, 18:12Every fighter I listed HAS NOT been inducted into the IBHoF.world ranked wrote: ↑31 May 2021, 12:56
Better resume than a lot on here not going to go through but Ottke, Chris John, Michalewski, even would debate Ayala, Paz
If you sincerely believe that Spence Jr's resume/accomplishments fails surpass every single one of the names listed above, which is literally what you've just admitted, then you almost certainly believe he's not Hall-of-Fame worthy.
So your counter-argument has back-fired, because you've just ADMITTED that Errol Spence Jr. is DEFINITELY NOT Hall-of-Fame worthy.![]()
It's kind of weird to see someone desperately trying to argue with me, but inadvertently agreeing with me!
It took a while for you to take the bait, but it's good to see you contradicting yourself after finally biting!
So the entire thread (you created) has been a complete waste of time, then?![]()
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I sometimes feel HOF is just a popularity contest..Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Jun 2021, 17:41I listed fighters whose names are listed on the IBHoF ballot every single year, yet fail to get inducted.world ranked wrote: ↑01 Jun 2021, 10:10Why would you name all those guys like some of them will never get into the HOF. Quite a few will at given time. He doesn't have to behind all those guys in no certain order. You also left guys in the HOF who his resume is better than which also helps his case. The thread been a waste of time but you wasting you time responding to it.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 May 2021, 18:12
Every fighter I listed HAS NOT been inducted into the IBHoF.
If you sincerely believe that Spence Jr's resume/accomplishments fails surpass every single one of the names listed above, which is literally what you've just admitted, then you almost certainly believe he's not Hall-of-Fame worthy.
So your counter-argument has back-fired, because you've just ADMITTED that Errol Spence Jr. is DEFINITELY NOT Hall-of-Fame worthy.![]()
It's kind of weird to see someone desperately trying to argue with me, but inadvertently agreeing with me!
It took a while for you to take the bait, but it's good to see you contradicting yourself after finally biting!
So the entire thread (you created) has been a complete waste of time, then?![]()
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No way is Spence at the top of this list right now. Beat Pacquiao then Crawford and go and do something then maybe.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 09:48Do you consider Errol Spence Jr’s five title defences to be a greater accomplishment that surpasses the feats achieved by every single fighter listed below?
• Yuri Arbachakov
• Jorge Arce
• Paulie Ayala
• Nigel Benn
• Timothy Bradley
• Vuyani Bungu
• Ivan Calderon
• Joel Casamayor
• Sot Chitalada
• Diego Corrales
• Miguel Cotto
• Chris Eubank
• Carl Froch
• Leo Gamez
• Ricky Hatton
• Genaro Hernandez
• Chris John
• Mikkel Kessler
• Santos Laciar
• Rocky Lockridge
• Miguel “Happy” Lora
• Rafael Marquez
• Henry Maske
• Dariusz Michalczewski
• Sung-Kil Moon
• Michael Moorer
• Orzubek Nazarov
• Sven Ottke
• Vinny Paz
• Gilberto Roman
• Gianfranco Rosi
• Samuel Serrano
• Antonio Tarver
• Meldrick Taylor
• James Toney
• Fernando Vargas
• Israel Vazquez
• Wilfredo Vazquez
• Ratanapol Sor Vorapin
If not, then why did you create this thread?![]()