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keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 06:30

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 17:48 The fact of the matter is, if you aren't on gear you're a mug. This isn't the 1950s.

PEDs means inflicting more brain damage. You're alright with that?

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 07:59

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 06:30

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 17:48 The fact of the matter is, if you aren't on gear you're a mug. This isn't the 1950s.

PEDs means inflicting more brain damage. You're alright with that?

It's not up to fans to be alright with it or not. But if I was a pro boxer and I knew my opponents were nearly all on PEDs and barely being tested, I'd certainly consider jumping on the train too, if only to protect myself against being the one getting the brain damage.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 08:15

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 07:59

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 06:30

PEDs means inflicting more brain damage. You're alright with that?

It's not up to fans to be alright with it or not. But if I was a pro boxer and I knew my opponents were nearly all on PEDs and barely being tested, I'd certainly consider jumping on the train too, if only to protect myself against being the one getting the brain damage.

We're not allowed an opinion?

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 08:55

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 08:15

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 07:59

It's not up to fans to be alright with it or not. But if I was a pro boxer and I knew my opponents were nearly all on PEDs and barely being tested, I'd certainly consider jumping on the train too, if only to protect myself against being the one getting the brain damage.

We're not allowed an opinion?

Of course fans can have an opinion, but end of the day they're not the ones getting in the ring and potentially facing a PED enhanced opponent. If boxing ever cleans up its act and takes PEDs seriously, I'll be the first to criticise anyone still cheating. But as it is, they're all bloody doing it.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 08:58

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 08:55

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 08:15

We're not allowed an opinion?

Of course fans can have an opinion, but end of the day they're not the ones getting in the ring and potentially facing a PED enhanced opponent. If boxing ever cleans up its act and takes PEDs seriously, I'll be the first to criticise anyone still cheating. But as it is, they're all bloody doing it.

That's just speculation.

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 11:26

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 10:12

a force wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 10:02 And what a surprise he became a client of Dr Uz in September. That’s another positive test for him after Conor Benn & he also has drugs cheat Tyson Fury as a client.

Everyone who is a client of his are dopers in my eyes. You don’t go & work with him if you’re a clean athlete.

I’d like to hear Liam Smith’s thoughts on it. He was outspoken about Fowler working with him before their fight & now he’s got McCann as a gym mate.

Liam's gone public saying Josh Kelly is juicing.

Why does no one ever go public saying AJ is juicing? He’s the most blatant case there is

stevec@france wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 12:57

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 11:26

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 10:12

Liam's gone public saying Josh Kelly is juicing.

Why does no one ever go public saying AJ is juicing? He’s the most blatant case there is

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

stevec@france wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 12:57

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 11:26

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 10:12

Liam's gone public saying Josh Kelly is juicing.

Why does no one ever go public saying AJ is juicing? He’s the most blatant case there is

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 14:20

stevec@france wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 12:57

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 11:26

Why does no one ever go public saying AJ is juicing? He’s the most blatant case there is

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

You actually believe that? The users are way ahead of the testers. Masking, cycling, using PEDs that are not yet testing for? How naive are you?

Controversial wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 16:23

stevec@france wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 12:57

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 11:26

Why does no one ever go public saying AJ is juicing? He’s the most blatant case there is

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

Listen to Victor Conte podcast where he talks about it, if you know what you are doing or are getting the right people helping you won’t get caught.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 18:32

Controversial wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 16:23

stevec@france wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 12:57

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

Listen to Victor Conte podcast where he talks about it, if you know what you are doing or are getting the right people helping you won’t get caught.

But some big name boxers have failed.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 16:13
The kid is covered in "hard man" tattoos and got beard transplants. That tells you all you need to know about the mindset.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Dec 2024, 16:55 conte client shane mosley admitting to using but never failed a test

samwbr wrote: ↑17 Dec 2024, 04:49 Now fighting Rhys Edwards

samwbr wrote: ↑18 Dec 2024, 09:02 Frank saying it's more than one substance in McCanns sample.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑18 Dec 2024, 09:50

samwbr wrote: ↑18 Dec 2024, 09:02 Frank saying it's more than one substance in McCanns sample.

I just hate all this PED shit. One day someone's gonna get killed in the ring and the guy standing over him is going to test positive.