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Posted: **13 May 2018, 16:11**

It's just Hearns' hubris in protecting his fighter.

I agree again

I Think both fighters want the fight. I have a feeling that both fighters teams however fancy one last outing before putting it all on the line. (Breazeale / Povetkin, Pulev etc.) This provides more problems though as mandatories start to get called and before you know it its 2020 and still no fight. If Its not happening next its not going to be this year. The longer it drags on though the more likely it is to happen in the US I think.

Posted: **13 May 2018, 16:12**

jvincent wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:11
It's just Hearns' hubris in protecting his fighter.
I agree again I Think both fighters want the fight. I have a feeling that both fighters teams however fancy one last outing before putting it all on the line. (Breazeale / Povetkin, Pulev etc.) This provides more problems though as mandatories start to get called and before you know it its 2020 and still no fight. If Its not happening next its not going to be this year. The longer it drags on though the more likely it is to happen in the US I think.

Maybe some exotic local would step up and surprise on bid.

Posted: **13 May 2018, 16:18**

That would be ideal. IMO.

Posted: **13 May 2018, 16:21**

jvincent wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:18 That would be ideal. IMO.

Yup...some neutral site. Naked chicks...good grub!

Posted: **13 May 2018, 16:21**

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:21
jvincent wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:18 That would be ideal. IMO.
Yup...some neutral site. Naked chicks...good grub!

Hmmm...it does sound like Vegas, doesn't it?

Posted: **13 May 2018, 18:07**

A bunch of pu$$y Brits sticking up for their Pu$$y champion who’s playing hide and go seek with the title. THE fight to make against the most worthy challenger is not what you want to see because why? Because the winner is in doubt. I think the fight would be classic but you would rather jump in a van with 10 other British Hoopleheads to chant and sing songs as AJ takes down another guy with an overactive pituitary gland so you can bump chests and other things later that night. Joke. Brits have no heart.

Posted: **13 May 2018, 18:08**

caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 18:07 A bunch of pu$$y Brits sticking up for their Pu$$y champion who’s playing hide and go seek with the title. THE fight to make against the most worthy challenger is not what you want to see because why? Because the winner is in doubt. I think the fight would be classic but you would rather jump in a van with 10 other British Hoopleheads to chant and sing songs as AJ takes down another guy with an overactive pituitary gland so you can bump chests and other things later that night. Joke. Brits have no heart.

Where in the world did that come from?????

Posted: **13 May 2018, 18:20**

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 18:08
caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 18:07 A bunch of pu$$y Brits sticking up for their Pu$$y champion who’s playing hide and go seek with the title. THE fight to make against the most worthy challenger is not what you want to see because why? Because the winner is in doubt. I think the fight would be classic but you would rather jump in a van with 10 other British Hoopleheads to chant and sing songs as AJ takes down another guy with an overactive pituitary gland so you can bump chests and other things later that night. Joke. Brits have no heart.
Where in the world did that come from?????

America. The home of the pu$$ies

Posted: **13 May 2018, 18:25**

caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 18:20
oogiebe wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 18:08
caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 18:07 A bunch of pu$$y Brits sticking up for their Pu$$y champion who’s playing hide and go seek with the title. THE fight to make against the most worthy challenger is not what you want to see because why? Because the winner is in doubt. I think the fight would be classic but you would rather jump in a van with 10 other British Hoopleheads to chant and sing songs as AJ takes down another guy with an overactive pituitary gland so you can bump chests and other things later that night. Joke. Brits have no heart.
Where in the world did that come from?????
America. The home of the pu$$ies

Caldo, let's not have an international incident just yet. One guy made the statements, certainly not all of us. Please don't bunch us up like that. It serves no purpose.

Posted: **13 May 2018, 18:29**

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 18:25
caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 18:20
oogiebe wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 18:08

Where in the world did that come from?????
America. The home of the pu$$ies
Caldo, let's not have an international incident just yet. One guy made the statements, certainly not all of us. Please don't bunch us up like that. It serves no purpose.

Interesting point and well taken. The ones that commented with national bias apply. All others, comments were not not directed.

Posted: **14 May 2018, 05:15**

AJKlitschfury wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 02:53
caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 12:51 I’m sorry but I’m forced to have the opinion that AJ is a big pu$$y. Sorry my European friends but there’s no other way to slice this one. AJs on tape telling Wilder that he’d take $50mil to fight Wilder and Wilder went out and got him that money and they are weaseling out of it. Sad day when the Heavyweight Champ of the World runs away with his tail between his legs. Embarrassing.
Oké, so AJ and his team arrange everything, date and time, take care of the money beïng paid right after the match, takes care of the location, wins against all other good boxers with an interesting belt while Wilder only fights bum after bum after bum, name it.
Then Wilder says no to the money and claims it's a 100m dollar fight, then AJ says, oké then give me 50 mil if you really think that. And then Wilder offers to pay 50 mil with a contract without a date, doesn't say the location, doesn't say the date, wants his own referees, wants his own gloves, name it, basically changes all the conditions of the fight and now all the Wilder fanboys act like they are surprised AJ doesn't accept?

A: I'll offer 5.000 dollar for your volkswagen
B: Nah I want 10.000 dollar!
A: Oké, I'll offer you 10.000 dollar for the car, just say you accept it!
B: Oké, I'll accept!
A: Ha, gotcha, I now want the Ferrari for the 10.000 dollar instead and you already accepted!
B: No, I don't accept that!
A: See, you keep on ducking me, only because I'm a black men from America blablabla, your white boss is milking you and my three white bosses aren't and you should bring the car to my house as well, nobody sells their proper car to me, that's why I drive Daihatsu's all the time!

That's like scammer Wilder logic lol.

Completely delusional, or a bad actor, whatever you make of it.

Speaking of delusional. I prefer non-fiction novels but thanks.

Posted: **14 May 2018, 07:57**

caldo2025 wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 05:15
AJKlitschfury wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 02:53
caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 12:51

Completely delusional, or a bad actor, whatever you make of it.
Speaking of delusional. I prefer non-fiction novels but thanks.
LOL!!! Yup.

Posted: **15 May 2018, 03:15**

AJKlitschfury wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 02:53
caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 12:51 I’m sorry but I’m forced to have the opinion that AJ is a big pu$$y. Sorry my European friends but there’s no other way to slice this one. AJs on tape telling Wilder that he’d take $50mil to fight Wilder and Wilder went out and got him that money and they are weaseling out of it. Sad day when the Heavyweight Champ of the World runs away with his tail between his legs. Embarrassing.
Oké, so AJ and his team arrange everything, date and time, take care of the money beïng paid right after the match, takes care of the location, wins against all other good boxers with an interesting belt while Wilder only fights bum after bum after bum, name it.
Then Wilder says no to the money and claims it's a 100m dollar fight, then AJ says, oké then give me 50 mil if you really think that. And then Wilder offers to pay 50 mil with a contract without a date, doesn't say the location, doesn't say the date, wants his own referees, wants his own gloves, name it, basically changes all the conditions of the fight and now all the Wilder fanboys act like they are surprised AJ doesn't accept?

A: I'll offer 5.000 dollar for your volkswagen
B: Nah I want 10.000 dollar!
A: Oké, I'll offer you 10.000 dollar for the car, just say you accept it!
B: Oké, I'll accept!
A: Ha, gotcha, I now want the Ferrari for the 10.000 dollar instead and you already accepted!
B: No, I don't accept that!
A: See, you keep on ducking me, only because I'm a black men from America blablabla, your white boss is milking you and my three white bosses aren't and you should bring the car to my house as well, nobody sells their proper car to me, that's why I drive Daihatsu's all the time!

That's like scammer Wilder logic lol.

Completely delusional, or a bad actor, whatever you make of it.

Who has Joshua beat?

Posted: **15 May 2018, 04:17**

in 4.5 years aj already has the best resume in the hw division, except for perhaps povetkin if you count fights from years back

go look at the thread asking ppl for there top 10, on pretty much every list aj had beaten the most top 10 ranked guys and wlad wouldve easily been there too

Posted: **15 May 2018, 04:47**

Joshua has a better CV than Wilder.

The fact he has a better CV after half as many fights shows how slowly Wilder has been moved.

Posted: **16 May 2018, 00:25**

Klitschko was over the hill. Didn't Parker basically beat nobody, and look bad in his fights leading up to Joshua? Who has Whyte beat?

Posted: **16 May 2018, 08:59**

MrGuy wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 00:25 Klitschko was over the hill. Didn't Parker basically beat nobody, and look bad in his fights leading up to Joshua? Who has Whyte beat?

Essentially correct, yes.

Posted: **16 May 2018, 09:02**

MrGuy wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 00:25 Klitschko was over the hill. Didn't Parker basically beat nobody, and look bad in his fights leading up to Joshua? Who has Whyte beat?

I get roasted for stating the same opinion.
I'm not impressed by the resume of either fighter.
I find this fight a legitimate 50-50

Posted: **16 May 2018, 09:47**

I love being able to recycle some of my old posts to address the criticism of those who believe Wilder's resume is as impressive as AJ's...

If you take one look at The RING’s ratings at the time AJ & Wilder competed in their last eight bouts, it actually seems kind of bizarre for anyone to rate Deontay’s resume as being either on a par or perhaps more superior than Anthony Joshua's:

Deontay Wilder:

• Bermane Stiverne (3rd)
• Eric Molina (unranked)
• Johann Duhaupas (unranked & tasted defeat two fights prior)
• Artur Szpilka (unranked)
• Chris Arreola (unranked & only won two of his previous six outings)
• Gerald Washington (unranked)
• Bermane Stiverne (7th & had struggled to defeat a journeyman in his only outing since his first defeat to Wilder)
• Luis Ortiz (5th)

Anthony Joshua:

• Gary Cornish (unranked & unbeaten)
• Dillian Whyte (unranked & unbeaten - he is currently rated 6th though)
• Charles Martin (10th, the IBF champ & also unbeaten)
• Dominic Breazeale (unranked & unbeaten - he is currently rated 8th though)
• Eric Molina (unranked)
• Wladimir Klitschko (2nd, a future Hall-of-Famer & only tasted defeat once in the 13 years prior)
• Carlos Takam (unranked, but was the IBF's mandatory & a late substitute opponent)
• Joseph Parker (3rd, the WBO champ & also unbeaten)

How many mandatory defences of his WBC title has ‘The Bronze Bomber’ performed during his thirty nine months title reign? Only once, against an opponent on a poor run of form and had already defeated

Other than Bermane Stiverne & Luis Ortiz, how many times has the American competed against top-ten world class opposition? Zero

Is it true that AJ was paid almost twice as much for the Joseph Parker (≈$20m) bout alone than the combined total that Wilder commanded for all eight of his WBC world title fights (≈$11.1m)? Yes

Is it true that AJ holds the IBF, WBA, WBO & IBO titles, with Wilder only possessing the WBC belt? Yes

Is it true that ESPN, The RING & BoxRec rate Anthony Joshua above Deontay Wilder in their heavyweight rankings? Yes

How many times has Deontay Wilder competed in a WBC world title fight against an opponent that wasn’t affiliated in some manner to Al Haymon? One (Johann Duhaupas)

Also, Joseph Parker, Dillian Whyte and Dominic Brazeale are currently rated in The RING’s top-ten heavyweight fighters, with all three of them having previously suffered defeat to AJ.

The only fighter that Deontay Wilder has defeated in the current top-ten RING-rated heavyweights list is Luis Ortiz.

Posted: **16 May 2018, 09:55**

Someone Cliff Notes EO's post. IT's too long for me to read.

Posted: **16 May 2018, 11:39**

Both teams have succeeded in making the other look absolute hypocrites.

Posted: **16 May 2018, 12:18**

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 09:55 Someone Cliff Notes EO's post. IT's too long for me to read.

Blah blah blah I like to hear myself talk.
Blah blah blah I am here to tell everyone my revisionist facts
Blah blah blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah don't call me names you Neanderthal..... blah blah blah

Posted: **16 May 2018, 12:40**

Perhaps visionary Elon Musk could pitch them the idea of using SpaceX to rocket them out to a newly created space arena, where they can have their highly anticipated championship fight. It could be billed as the first ever "Heavyweight Championship of the Galaxy".

Of course it would be way too expensive to rocket an arena full of fans to attend, but the new space arena could be equipped with a plethora of HD cameras from all angles and showcase this fight on PPV at $200 a pop.

Then the winner of the fight would have then have the option of A. - Board a rocket back to Earth, or B. - Board a second rocket, and become the first man ever to travel to and land on Mars.

This far-out scenario is no more delusional or far-fetched than this thread has gotten.

Posted: **16 May 2018, 14:17**

tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:18
oogiebe wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 09:55 Someone Cliff Notes EO's post. IT's too long for me to read.
Blah blah blah I like to hear myself talk.
Blah blah blah I am here to tell everyone my revisionist facts
Blah blah blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah don't call me names you Neanderthal..... blah blah blah

LMFAO!!!!! PRICELESS!!!!

Posted: **16 May 2018, 14:44**

HeavyHitters wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:40 Perhaps visionary Elon Musk could pitch them the idea of using SpaceX to rocket them out to a newly created space arena, where they can have their highly anticipated championship fight. It could be billed as the first ever "Heavyweight Championship of the Galaxy".

Of course it would be way too expensive to rocket an arena full of fans to attend, but the new space arena could be equipped with a plethora of HD cameras from all angles and showcase this fight on PPV at $200 a pop.

Then the winner of the fight would have then have the option of A. - Board a rocket back to Earth, or B. - Board a second rocket, and become the first man ever to travel to and land on Mars.

This far-out scenario is no more delusional or far-fetched than this thread has gotten.

Where do I register to become a judge in an intergalactic fight?

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