For me naz was better in every way. Some people on here saying naz fought cans?!?! He fought ex world champions and alike, he wasn’t beating on 2-100 journeyman or 1-6 novice bums. His best performance I thought was augie Sanchez who beat floyd in the amateurs, he completely poleaxed him, and beating a Kevin Kelly who was coming off of a career best win wasn’t too bad either! Benn has the more impressive win, but absolutely no way he should be held in higher regard than naz IMO
I was comparing Naz to Graham defensively.
No I know Tommy, hence why I said I thought he was better everywhere, but that’s just my opinion, it was more the earlier comments in the thread, even questioning his class I found strange, not by u, just other posters
I think he was better when he was on the way up defensively, mid to late career he was sloppy.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 14 Jun 2021, 12:49
by coghaugen11
THEBUTCH wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 19:31
Julian Jackson was just as dangerous at middleweight as he was light middleweight. He could turn out almost anyone's lights. I'd rate Jackson higher than Hagler in terms of one punch KO power.
The Brewer fight was Graham's last stand after a long, long career and he didn't do bad actually.
He looked better than Calzaghe did against Brewer.
Chris Johnson was supposed to be the next big thing.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 14 Jun 2021, 12:51
by coghaugen11
As for Kalule he probably hadn’t heard of Graham and expected a simple win. When he was dominated he assumed he had grown old overnight!
THEBUTCH wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 19:31
Julian Jackson was just as dangerous at middleweight as he was light middleweight. He could turn out almost anyone's lights. I'd rate Jackson higher than Hagler in terms of one punch KO power.
The Brewer fight was Graham's last stand after a long, long career and he didn't do bad actually.
He looked better than Calzaghe did against Brewer.
Chris Johnson was supposed to be the next big thing.
Yeah except Graham got knocked out and Calzaghe won clearly.
THEBUTCH wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 19:31
Julian Jackson was just as dangerous at middleweight as he was light middleweight. He could turn out almost anyone's lights. I'd rate Jackson higher than Hagler in terms of one punch KO power.
The Brewer fight was Graham's last stand after a long, long career and he didn't do bad actually.
He looked better than Calzaghe did against Brewer.
Chris Johnson was supposed to be the next big thing.
Yeah except Graham got knocked out and Calzaghe won clearly.
Stopped on his feet not knocked our.....also put Brewer down twice
THEBUTCH wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 19:31
Julian Jackson was just as dangerous at middleweight as he was light middleweight. He could turn out almost anyone's lights. I'd rate Jackson higher than Hagler in terms of one punch KO power.
The Brewer fight was Graham's last stand after a long, long career and he didn't do bad actually.
He looked better than Calzaghe did against Brewer.
Chris Johnson was supposed to be the next big thing.
Yeah except Graham got knocked out and Calzaghe won clearly.
Yeah 20 years past his best post a long retirement.
Brewer bashed Calzaghe up from first round to last.
He looked better than Calzaghe did against Brewer.
Chris Johnson was supposed to be the next big thing.
Yeah except Graham got knocked out and Calzaghe won clearly.
Yeah 20 years past his best post a long retirement.
Brewer bashed Calzaghe up from first round to last.
Big Joe had a great chin.
I don’t mean to be unpleasant but I think you’re deluded. Graham was exceptional. At his level. But he failed at world title level. This is typical of Ingle fighters. Look incredible at a certain level but in the world space get showed up. Frank Grant is a tough man but hardly Sugar Ray Leonard.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 14 Jun 2021, 15:21
by coghaugen11
Frank Grant wouldn’t of laid a glove on the Graham of 1984. That wasn’t Bomber in there that night, and it was still arguably the biggest upset of the 90s.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 14 Jun 2021, 15:31
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021, 15:21
Frank Grant wouldn’t of laid a glove on the Graham of 1984. That wasn’t Bomber in there that night, and it was still arguably the biggest upset of the 90s.
Bigger than Douglas-Tyson?
I was at the Grant fight, nobody was in shock at all.
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021, 15:21
Frank Grant wouldn’t of laid a glove on the Graham of 1984. That wasn’t Bomber in there that night, and it was still arguably the biggest upset of the 90s.
Bigger than Douglas-Tyson?
I was at the Grant fight, nobody was in shock at all.
In British fights.
I didn’t know anyone who picked Grant. Though to be fair nobody seemed to know who he was.
All the boxing fans I spoke to wanted Graham in with Eubank at that time feeling Bomber would clown him and box his ears off.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 14 Jun 2021, 15:53
by JamesPhilips
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021, 15:21
Frank Grant wouldn’t of laid a glove on the Graham of 1984. That wasn’t Bomber in there that night, and it was still arguably the biggest upset of the 90s.
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021, 15:21
Frank Grant wouldn’t of laid a glove on the Graham of 1984. That wasn’t Bomber in there that night, and it was still arguably the biggest upset of the 90s.
What nonsense
Seek help.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 14 Jun 2021, 16:27
by oogiebe
From the thread title, I thought this was a middle-eastern meat recipe.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 14 Jun 2021, 19:07
by Wee Tommy
oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021, 16:27
From the thread title, I thought this was a middle-eastern meat recipe.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 14 Jun 2021, 19:09
by THEBUTCH
As Buncey would say "let's get it right"....Grant beating Graham from the British title was a big shock !
I wasn't at the fight, but that result stunned the British boxing scene
I've my own thoughts on Herol's performance that night, but Frank thoroughly deserved his victory and title win. 'The Terminator' was also a hard puncher at British level.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 15 Jun 2021, 01:55
by mickey1975
THEBUTCH wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021, 19:09
As Buncey would say "let's get it right"....Grant beating Graham from the British title was a big shock !
I wasn't at the fight, but that result stunned the British boxing scene
I've my own thoughts on Herol's performance that night, but Frank thoroughly deserved his victory and title win. 'The Terminator' was also a hard puncher at British level.
I suppose so, but the way the fight went, plus the crowd being very much behind Grant, he had a stand to himself, segregated if you like, that it didn't seem to shocking how the fight unfolded.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 15 Jun 2021, 04:30
by Pugilist-specialist
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021, 15:17
I don’t mean to be unpleasant but I think you’re deluded. Graham was exceptional. At his level. But he failed at world title level. This is typical of Ingle fighters. Look incredible at a certain level but in the world space get showed up.
"Typical"?
"get showed up"?
Johnny Nelson retired as the longest reigning world cruiserweight champion of all time with a record 14 defences.
Naseem Hamed won every fight as an Ingle fighter including 12 world title fights.
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021, 15:17
I don’t mean to be unpleasant but I think you’re deluded. Graham was exceptional. At his level. But he failed at world title level. This is typical of Ingle fighters. Look incredible at a certain level but in the world space get showed up.
"Typical"?
"get showed up"?
Johnny Nelson retired as the longest reigning world cruiserweight champion of all time with a record 14 defences.
Naseem Hamed won every fight as an Ingle fighter including 12 world title fights.
Not to say Ingles haven’t produced some great fighters I mean a lot look spectacular until they reach a certain level.
Re: Benn Hamed beef
Posted: 15 Jun 2021, 11:32
by JamesPhilips
oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Jun 2021, 16:27
From the thread title, I thought this was a middle-eastern meat recipe.
,won't leave you with a great choice then will it ?
